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I've removed all the WikiProject ratings on this talk page and archived all the old discussions to Talk:William Melmoth/Archive1. Can we get back to focusing on the encyclopedia's articles? giggy ( :O) 08:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
The article as it stands says that the subject wrote anonymously, based on being in the "public life". What exactly does that mean? There is nothing in the article to indicate it. Was he successful in the public life, or not, and to what degree? Did he have any particular achievements in public life? We have no indications of any. Considering that the subject evidently considered his other career(s) more important than his writing career, it is very hard to imagine that at least reasonable information on that career, if it is available, is not something that the article would require to be complete. Did he get paid for the publications or not? If not, how did he acquire money, or even did he? Also, in my own limited experience with the single extant source, the DNB, on the Arthur Bryant article, I found it to be both incomplete and non-neutral. What can be true in one article can be true in another, even if such recurrences are unlikely. On that basis, I believe, even given the reputation of the source used, that there is every reason to believe at least one other source meeting RS standards to any reasonable degree should be reasonably included to make this article more clearly reliable. John Carter ( talk) 23:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Looking at this source, it uses the initials KC after Melmouth's name to disambiguate him from his son of the same name. I think from context that the initials are referring to him as King's Counsel, but our article on the subject manages to avoid saying what the significance of that position was in the period Melmouth would have held the title and I'd want a better source anyway.
The charter of the SPCK is available in several sources, and shows that he was one of the charter members, but I doubt this is of great significance. More significant is that he was one of the first treasurers of the society.
His son was William Melmoth was also an author, and some writers have considered the son more significant than the father. [3] The son translated the letters of Pliny the Younger into English, and this translation has been reprinted by scholarly imprints as recently as the early 1960s (and appears not to have been superceded through at least 1995. [4]
Editions of The Great Importance of a Religious Life, Consider'd were made through at least 1849. [5]
He was buried in/under the chapel of Lincoln's Inn. [6] [7] GRBerry 04:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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I've removed all the WikiProject ratings on this talk page and archived all the old discussions to Talk:William Melmoth/Archive1. Can we get back to focusing on the encyclopedia's articles? giggy ( :O) 08:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
The article as it stands says that the subject wrote anonymously, based on being in the "public life". What exactly does that mean? There is nothing in the article to indicate it. Was he successful in the public life, or not, and to what degree? Did he have any particular achievements in public life? We have no indications of any. Considering that the subject evidently considered his other career(s) more important than his writing career, it is very hard to imagine that at least reasonable information on that career, if it is available, is not something that the article would require to be complete. Did he get paid for the publications or not? If not, how did he acquire money, or even did he? Also, in my own limited experience with the single extant source, the DNB, on the Arthur Bryant article, I found it to be both incomplete and non-neutral. What can be true in one article can be true in another, even if such recurrences are unlikely. On that basis, I believe, even given the reputation of the source used, that there is every reason to believe at least one other source meeting RS standards to any reasonable degree should be reasonably included to make this article more clearly reliable. John Carter ( talk) 23:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Looking at this source, it uses the initials KC after Melmouth's name to disambiguate him from his son of the same name. I think from context that the initials are referring to him as King's Counsel, but our article on the subject manages to avoid saying what the significance of that position was in the period Melmouth would have held the title and I'd want a better source anyway.
The charter of the SPCK is available in several sources, and shows that he was one of the charter members, but I doubt this is of great significance. More significant is that he was one of the first treasurers of the society.
His son was William Melmoth was also an author, and some writers have considered the son more significant than the father. [3] The son translated the letters of Pliny the Younger into English, and this translation has been reprinted by scholarly imprints as recently as the early 1960s (and appears not to have been superceded through at least 1995. [4]
Editions of The Great Importance of a Religious Life, Consider'd were made through at least 1849. [5]
He was buried in/under the chapel of Lincoln's Inn. [6] [7] GRBerry 04:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)