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Here is the official bio from the us embassy moscow page. Bio Hopefully this will serve as a good enough starting point.
Ambassador William Joseph Burns, of the District of Columbia, is a career member of the Senior Foreign Service, with the rank of Career Minister. He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate as Ambassador to the Russian Federation on July 29, 2005. Ambassador Burns served from 2001 until 2005 as Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, and was Ambassador to Jordan from 1998 until 2001.
Ambassador Burns has also served in a number of other posts since entering the Foreign Service in 1982, including: Executive Secretary of the State Department and Special Assistant to the Secretary of State; Minister-Counselor for Political Affairs at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow; Acting Director and Principal Deputy Director of the State Department's Policy Planning Staff; and Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Near East and South Asian Affairs at the National Security Council staff.
Ambassador Burns earned a B.A. in History from LaSalle University and M.Phil. and D.Phil. degrees in International Relations from Oxford University, where he studied as a Marshall Scholar. He is the recipient of three honorary doctoral degrees. Ambassador Burns is the author of Economic Aid and American Policy Toward Egypt, 1955-1981 (State University of New York Press, l985). He speaks Russian, Arabic, and French, and is the recipient of two Presidential Distinguished Service Awards and a number of Department of State awards, including two Distinguished Honor Awards, the Robert C. Frasure Award, the James Clement Dunn Award, and five Superior Honor awards. In 1994, he was named to TIME Magazine's list of the "50 Most Promising American Leaders Under Age 40", and to TIME's list of "100 Young Global Leaders."
Ambassador Burns and his wife, Lisa Carty, have two daughters.
-- Jowe 06:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to add a footnote to the sentence about the cable describing the Dagestani wedding linking to the cable itself, from wikieaks? We should not of course put it into Wikipedia, but is it against policy to link to confidential (but published) information? 92.251.255.13 ( talk) 21:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
The sidebar mentions that he was acting Secretary of State for a day. This seems notable/some explanation in the article might be helpful. - KaJunl ( talk) 13:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC) KaJunl ( talk) 13:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
It seems to me that per WP:COMMONNAME this article title should be William J. Burns or William Burns, however I'm not sure how we would disambiguate from the other ones as "diplomat" doesn't seem to do the job now that he's been nominated as CIA director. Does anyone have any ideas? Connormah ( talk) 02:46, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
There's a paragraph about "A cable that Burns signed as ambassador to Russia." The implication appears to be that Burns wrote the cable. That is almost certainly not the case. Every cable released from a U.S. Embassy is officially signed by the Ambassador, if there is one, but Ambassadors almost never write the cables themselves. My recommendation is to delete the paragraph as misleading and, as a commentary on Burns, not notable. NPguy ( talk) 03:45, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
No consensus to move. After much-extended time for discussion, there is no consensus for a move at this time. BD2412 T 03:32, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
William Joseph Burns → William J. Burns (public servant) – Per WP:COMMONNAME - but still unsure on what way to disambiguate is best (see discussion above). Any further thoughts welcome. Connormah ( talk) 05:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. JJP...MASTER! [talk to] JJP... master? 01:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Oppose - there is no need to change the title and then add disambiguation because of the change. As already stated, "public servant" is not appropriate, and "CIA Director" is not appropriate, since it will only be a brief stint compared to a 40 year career as diplomat in the Foreign Service. Unless there is another "William Joseph Burns", just leave this as is. Plus this was already discussed just 6 weeks ago and there was no consensus for a change. - wolf 21:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Under the heading 'Jeffrey Epstein meetings', it is stated for a fact that "In 2023, The Wall Street Journal reported that Burns had three scheduled meetings with Jeffrey Epstein in 2014". This formulation in itself presents not just the reporting by the WSJ as a fact, but also these 'three scheduled meetings' are presented as if they are established facts. However, the WSJ has never disclosed these alleged 'documents' and 'calendars', which makes the newspaper's claims unverifiable. No one can read, verify, authenticate the 'trove of documents' that the WSJ claims to have in their possession. Should Wikipedia blindly believe they exist, and say what the WSJ claims they say? Or should we go for a more careful wording in the way of '... that Burns allegedly had three scheduled meetings...'? Mcouzijn ( talk) 00:27, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Here is the official bio from the us embassy moscow page. Bio Hopefully this will serve as a good enough starting point.
Ambassador William Joseph Burns, of the District of Columbia, is a career member of the Senior Foreign Service, with the rank of Career Minister. He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate as Ambassador to the Russian Federation on July 29, 2005. Ambassador Burns served from 2001 until 2005 as Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, and was Ambassador to Jordan from 1998 until 2001.
Ambassador Burns has also served in a number of other posts since entering the Foreign Service in 1982, including: Executive Secretary of the State Department and Special Assistant to the Secretary of State; Minister-Counselor for Political Affairs at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow; Acting Director and Principal Deputy Director of the State Department's Policy Planning Staff; and Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Near East and South Asian Affairs at the National Security Council staff.
Ambassador Burns earned a B.A. in History from LaSalle University and M.Phil. and D.Phil. degrees in International Relations from Oxford University, where he studied as a Marshall Scholar. He is the recipient of three honorary doctoral degrees. Ambassador Burns is the author of Economic Aid and American Policy Toward Egypt, 1955-1981 (State University of New York Press, l985). He speaks Russian, Arabic, and French, and is the recipient of two Presidential Distinguished Service Awards and a number of Department of State awards, including two Distinguished Honor Awards, the Robert C. Frasure Award, the James Clement Dunn Award, and five Superior Honor awards. In 1994, he was named to TIME Magazine's list of the "50 Most Promising American Leaders Under Age 40", and to TIME's list of "100 Young Global Leaders."
Ambassador Burns and his wife, Lisa Carty, have two daughters.
-- Jowe 06:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to add a footnote to the sentence about the cable describing the Dagestani wedding linking to the cable itself, from wikieaks? We should not of course put it into Wikipedia, but is it against policy to link to confidential (but published) information? 92.251.255.13 ( talk) 21:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
The sidebar mentions that he was acting Secretary of State for a day. This seems notable/some explanation in the article might be helpful. - KaJunl ( talk) 13:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC) KaJunl ( talk) 13:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
It seems to me that per WP:COMMONNAME this article title should be William J. Burns or William Burns, however I'm not sure how we would disambiguate from the other ones as "diplomat" doesn't seem to do the job now that he's been nominated as CIA director. Does anyone have any ideas? Connormah ( talk) 02:46, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
There's a paragraph about "A cable that Burns signed as ambassador to Russia." The implication appears to be that Burns wrote the cable. That is almost certainly not the case. Every cable released from a U.S. Embassy is officially signed by the Ambassador, if there is one, but Ambassadors almost never write the cables themselves. My recommendation is to delete the paragraph as misleading and, as a commentary on Burns, not notable. NPguy ( talk) 03:45, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
No consensus to move. After much-extended time for discussion, there is no consensus for a move at this time. BD2412 T 03:32, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
William Joseph Burns → William J. Burns (public servant) – Per WP:COMMONNAME - but still unsure on what way to disambiguate is best (see discussion above). Any further thoughts welcome. Connormah ( talk) 05:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. JJP...MASTER! [talk to] JJP... master? 01:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Oppose - there is no need to change the title and then add disambiguation because of the change. As already stated, "public servant" is not appropriate, and "CIA Director" is not appropriate, since it will only be a brief stint compared to a 40 year career as diplomat in the Foreign Service. Unless there is another "William Joseph Burns", just leave this as is. Plus this was already discussed just 6 weeks ago and there was no consensus for a change. - wolf 21:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Under the heading 'Jeffrey Epstein meetings', it is stated for a fact that "In 2023, The Wall Street Journal reported that Burns had three scheduled meetings with Jeffrey Epstein in 2014". This formulation in itself presents not just the reporting by the WSJ as a fact, but also these 'three scheduled meetings' are presented as if they are established facts. However, the WSJ has never disclosed these alleged 'documents' and 'calendars', which makes the newspaper's claims unverifiable. No one can read, verify, authenticate the 'trove of documents' that the WSJ claims to have in their possession. Should Wikipedia blindly believe they exist, and say what the WSJ claims they say? Or should we go for a more careful wording in the way of '... that Burns allegedly had three scheduled meetings...'? Mcouzijn ( talk) 00:27, 21 October 2023 (UTC)