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I found an image of the letters patent granting his coat of arms from the College of Arms; I think the details of his coat of arms should be added to his profile. The image comes from a framer who framed his letters patent. Here is the image itself: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5823027b29687f56941775d9/t/5a69fdfdec212d4006cf2622/1516895869206/IMG_5429.JPG?format=1000w And here is the website from whence the image came: https://www.pureandapplied.co.uk/new-blog/vellum-indentures-letters-patent-royal-charters
It gives you all the information you need, so my suggested infobox would look like this:
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Large sections of this article are starting to look like a speech from the subject - large quotes that Hague said this... no rebuttals - I am going to go through it and trim the soap in the near future unless anyone can explain why I should not... Off2riorob ( talk) 00:08, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
The William_Hague#2011_Middle_East_protests section for example ... says
In March 2011 Hague said in a speech to business leaders...bla bla... the Foreign Secretary stated ..bla bla .. Hague has warned ..bla bla ..the Foreign Secretary said:..bla bla ... Hague, on his way to Qatar summit in April 2011, called for ..bla bla .. Mr Hague said. .. he added ...more bla ..he said. yet more bla bla .. he added... bla bla ..Hague, speaking on the protests in Syria said ... more bla bla bla...
Not everything the subjects says is noteworthy in his life story. Off2riorob ( talk) 00:16, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Can someone put in a section about William Hague's comments on Macpherson enquiry back in 1999-2001. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.83.209 ( talk) 23:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
I am not sure if I am missing something, but I don't see how Hague's former employer being awarded a government contract in a department not managed by Hague is relevant to an article about Hague? I've left the section in for now but could someone explain why it should be in this article and not one about McKinsey (or even there, I don't think it is a good idea to list every contract a company has).
Near the beginning of 2011, it was revealed that Hague's former employer, McKinsey, had been awarded more than a £1m in NHS consultancy fees. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jan/12/management-consultants-paid-7m-gps
It would indeed be relevant, if we had any evidence that it was so. He worked for McKinsey in a vey junior capacity 25 years ago, so it is hardly likely that he is in close touch with the firm's workings nowadays, and I don't see any evidence that he has a personal "financial interest" - public figures nowadays are subject to pretty stringent rules and regulations about this kind of thing, and would be expected to absent themselves from any decision-making in which they could be accused of having a personal interest. If you want to include this (libellous) insinuation in the article you would need to find a good source which actually makes it, not juxtapose unrelated facts in such a way as to invite the reader to draw an unsubstantiated conclusion. MissingMia ( talk) 00:41, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
What exactly is the difference between a "full" Conservative party leader and a Conservative party leader?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.65.206 ( talk) 01:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
I think this refers to the fact that until the election of Andrew Bonar Law in 1922 there was technically no post of leader of the Conservative Party, rather there was a party leader in the house of Commons and a party leader in the House of Lords. Austin Chamberlain who was leader in the Commons 1921-1922, and was the de facto overall leader, is often stated to be the only Conservative Leader before Hague not to be Prime Minister,. Actually earlier leaders in the Commons had also failed to gain this office (in their cases because the Party leader in the Lords was the more senior figure and thus became Prime Minister). Thus I think what is trying to be said here (albeit not terribly clearly) is that Hague was the first person to hold the official title 'Leader of the Conservative Party' not to become Prime Minster. Dunarc ( talk) 13:48, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
We should add in a list of the books he has written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.193.123 ( talk) 13:45, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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then attended Wath-upon-Dearne Comprehensive, a state secondary school near Rotherham, then known as Wath Grammar School.
shouldn't this read
then attended Wath Grammar School, a state grammar school near Rotherham.
the reference to Wath-on-Dearne Comprehensive gives the impression of comprehensive education and could be seen as political spin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.67.142.73 ( talk) 18:38, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Where is the section regarding Hague being a War Criminal leading the UK to atrocities abroad to divert attention from the UK economy failing? 86.139.189.47 ( talk) 16:21, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Seems surprising that there is nothing in the article about the LG inward investment to Newport, given it's significance at the time, and indeed the later fall out. There must be plenty of sources about the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.104.7.206 ( talk) 21:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Harry Enfield has stated that Hague's famous 1977 Conference speech was the inspiration for Tory Boy, mentioned in the book "Harry Enfield and his Humourous Chums", but a cursory search fails to find a quote online. Can someone track this down?-- MartinUK ( talk) 12:26, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Please make up your mind whether William Hague attended a comprehensive or a grammar school. Both are mentioned in your article. They are totally different.
If I had turned in text like this when I was a journalist, I would have been fired.
Jeannie Lucas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.51.76 ( talk) 11:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
I think Ffion has done enough to merit her own page. Valetude ( talk) 22:45, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Swedish authorities have confirmed that they've going to question Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/13/julian-assange-wikileaks-swedish-prosecutors-london-interview — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.17.36.83 ( talk) 03:27, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.32.161 ( talk) 03:00, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
If not, his specific job right now should be mentioned in the first sentence, or, say that he is retired in the first sentence. The article is very unclear about this.
Hague's title should now read The Right Honourable The Lord Hague seeing as he received a life peerage this week. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benjuliano1 ( talk • contribs) 17:53, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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Remove the website for William Hague from the right hand column at the bottom near the signature. The reason being it no longer exists. 165.120.81.229 ( talk) 10:14, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
He lives in a large mansion in the countryside - where did he get the money from? 92.29.119.117 ( talk) 08:34, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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William Hague was married on 19 December 1997, at the Palace of Westminster according to this link. [1]
Insert this then: William Hague was married on 19 December 1997, at the Chapel of St Mary Undercroft according to this link.<ref> "Ffion Jenkins: a passionate Welsh patriot". 19 December 1997. Retrieved 4 November 2016.
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William Hague | |
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Leader of the Conservative Party | |
In office 19 June 1997 – 13 September 2001 | |
Deputy |
Peter Lilley Michael Portillo |
Chairman |
Cecil Parkinson Michael Ancram |
Preceded by | John Major |
Succeeded by | Iain Duncan Smith |
Can Chairmen of the Conservative Party who served under Hague be listed in his infobox, as they are with most Leaders of the Labour Party, and many Leaders of the Conservatives? 81.157.224.127 ( talk) 09:31, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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I found an image of the letters patent granting his coat of arms from the College of Arms; I think the details of his coat of arms should be added to his profile. The image comes from a framer who framed his letters patent. Here is the image itself: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5823027b29687f56941775d9/t/5a69fdfdec212d4006cf2622/1516895869206/IMG_5429.JPG?format=1000w And here is the website from whence the image came: https://www.pureandapplied.co.uk/new-blog/vellum-indentures-letters-patent-royal-charters
It gives you all the information you need, so my suggested infobox would look like this:
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Large sections of this article are starting to look like a speech from the subject - large quotes that Hague said this... no rebuttals - I am going to go through it and trim the soap in the near future unless anyone can explain why I should not... Off2riorob ( talk) 00:08, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
The William_Hague#2011_Middle_East_protests section for example ... says
In March 2011 Hague said in a speech to business leaders...bla bla... the Foreign Secretary stated ..bla bla .. Hague has warned ..bla bla ..the Foreign Secretary said:..bla bla ... Hague, on his way to Qatar summit in April 2011, called for ..bla bla .. Mr Hague said. .. he added ...more bla ..he said. yet more bla bla .. he added... bla bla ..Hague, speaking on the protests in Syria said ... more bla bla bla...
Not everything the subjects says is noteworthy in his life story. Off2riorob ( talk) 00:16, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Can someone put in a section about William Hague's comments on Macpherson enquiry back in 1999-2001. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.83.209 ( talk) 23:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
I am not sure if I am missing something, but I don't see how Hague's former employer being awarded a government contract in a department not managed by Hague is relevant to an article about Hague? I've left the section in for now but could someone explain why it should be in this article and not one about McKinsey (or even there, I don't think it is a good idea to list every contract a company has).
Near the beginning of 2011, it was revealed that Hague's former employer, McKinsey, had been awarded more than a £1m in NHS consultancy fees. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jan/12/management-consultants-paid-7m-gps
It would indeed be relevant, if we had any evidence that it was so. He worked for McKinsey in a vey junior capacity 25 years ago, so it is hardly likely that he is in close touch with the firm's workings nowadays, and I don't see any evidence that he has a personal "financial interest" - public figures nowadays are subject to pretty stringent rules and regulations about this kind of thing, and would be expected to absent themselves from any decision-making in which they could be accused of having a personal interest. If you want to include this (libellous) insinuation in the article you would need to find a good source which actually makes it, not juxtapose unrelated facts in such a way as to invite the reader to draw an unsubstantiated conclusion. MissingMia ( talk) 00:41, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
What exactly is the difference between a "full" Conservative party leader and a Conservative party leader?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.65.206 ( talk) 01:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
I think this refers to the fact that until the election of Andrew Bonar Law in 1922 there was technically no post of leader of the Conservative Party, rather there was a party leader in the house of Commons and a party leader in the House of Lords. Austin Chamberlain who was leader in the Commons 1921-1922, and was the de facto overall leader, is often stated to be the only Conservative Leader before Hague not to be Prime Minister,. Actually earlier leaders in the Commons had also failed to gain this office (in their cases because the Party leader in the Lords was the more senior figure and thus became Prime Minister). Thus I think what is trying to be said here (albeit not terribly clearly) is that Hague was the first person to hold the official title 'Leader of the Conservative Party' not to become Prime Minster. Dunarc ( talk) 13:48, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
We should add in a list of the books he has written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.193.123 ( talk) 13:45, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Just a friendly note - it is better that IPs who may have a COI get an coherent account that can discuss changes on the talk page, and other editors can converse with a single account. Better for all of us that we discuss articles and keep them as neutral as possible. Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 07:45, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
then attended Wath-upon-Dearne Comprehensive, a state secondary school near Rotherham, then known as Wath Grammar School.
shouldn't this read
then attended Wath Grammar School, a state grammar school near Rotherham.
the reference to Wath-on-Dearne Comprehensive gives the impression of comprehensive education and could be seen as political spin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.67.142.73 ( talk) 18:38, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Where is the section regarding Hague being a War Criminal leading the UK to atrocities abroad to divert attention from the UK economy failing? 86.139.189.47 ( talk) 16:21, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Seems surprising that there is nothing in the article about the LG inward investment to Newport, given it's significance at the time, and indeed the later fall out. There must be plenty of sources about the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.104.7.206 ( talk) 21:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Harry Enfield has stated that Hague's famous 1977 Conference speech was the inspiration for Tory Boy, mentioned in the book "Harry Enfield and his Humourous Chums", but a cursory search fails to find a quote online. Can someone track this down?-- MartinUK ( talk) 12:26, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Please make up your mind whether William Hague attended a comprehensive or a grammar school. Both are mentioned in your article. They are totally different.
If I had turned in text like this when I was a journalist, I would have been fired.
Jeannie Lucas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.51.76 ( talk) 11:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
I think Ffion has done enough to merit her own page. Valetude ( talk) 22:45, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Swedish authorities have confirmed that they've going to question Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/13/julian-assange-wikileaks-swedish-prosecutors-london-interview — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.17.36.83 ( talk) 03:27, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.32.161 ( talk) 03:00, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
If not, his specific job right now should be mentioned in the first sentence, or, say that he is retired in the first sentence. The article is very unclear about this.
Hague's title should now read The Right Honourable The Lord Hague seeing as he received a life peerage this week. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benjuliano1 ( talk • contribs) 17:53, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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Remove the website for William Hague from the right hand column at the bottom near the signature. The reason being it no longer exists. 165.120.81.229 ( talk) 10:14, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
He lives in a large mansion in the countryside - where did he get the money from? 92.29.119.117 ( talk) 08:34, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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What's the encyclopaedic relevance of a style of address section? How is it relevant how someone wants to be addressed? Isn't it a bit pompous - and surely it varies by title so would only really be relevant on those pages? -- Eraserhead1 < talk> 16:18, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
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William Hague was married on 19 December 1997, at the Palace of Westminster according to this link. [1]
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William Hague | |
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Leader of the Conservative Party | |
In office 19 June 1997 – 13 September 2001 | |
Deputy |
Peter Lilley Michael Portillo |
Chairman |
Cecil Parkinson Michael Ancram |
Preceded by | John Major |
Succeeded by | Iain Duncan Smith |
Can Chairmen of the Conservative Party who served under Hague be listed in his infobox, as they are with most Leaders of the Labour Party, and many Leaders of the Conservatives? 81.157.224.127 ( talk) 09:31, 28 October 2021 (UTC)