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Who did William daddy Clark marry? FroggyJamer 04:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
He married twice: Julia Hancock and then Harriet Kennerly Radford, outliving them both.
Help Please -- ESP 00:27 4 Feb 2006 (UTC)
What did they discover [other than animals] on the Corps of Discovery?????????
Can the rumour of sexual affairs be cited? I found no source on that. Moonmaiden103 12:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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I removed the description of Clark as "Scottish-American." I think in the context of describing someone born in 1770 that the natural implication of "Scottish-American" would be someone born in Scotland who moved to America, not someone born in Virginia of Scottish heritage. john k 03:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
i think someone should add more about the lewis and clark expedition. That's what he's known for the most, anyway. ~~~~Pooja from Calfornia
Can you find out? and he was given land , where is land today? who owens the land given?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.25.105 ( talk) 20:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
There are probably at least one hundred people alive today descended directly from William Clark. There is a family tree of all the known descendants you can see at the Bellefontaine Cemetary office. (I haven't ever sat and counted it all up, at least 100 is my best guess from memory)
You can find out what land Clark owned at the time of his death by looking at his will http://stlcourtrecords.wustl.edu/about-clark-probate.php
EugeniaSTL ( talk) 20:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I know Captain Clark was the administrator of the Territory which encompassed the epicenter of those Madrid earthquakes of 1811-12. Where can I find a record of his reports and actions about this time period? Thank you. J C Kollmann ( talk) 15:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)jc kollmann 0ct. 28, 2009
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Please add under further reading: Specht, August J. (2009). Defying Death, Not Duty: Deciphering the Mysteries of Meriwether Lewis. CreateSpace.
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Not done: Welcome. This book is one of a small number written by Mr. Specht, who doesn't appear to be a historian by training or occupation. [1] Including it under further reading would not benefit the reader or Wikipedia as much as it would the author. Can you explain your reasoning? Thanks, Celestra ( talk) 19:56, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
There is a different photo of Wm. Clark in the 1912 book History of Spokane County by N. W. Durham, which has fallen into the public domain.
The photo is on page 4. The book is digitized here: http://books.google.com/books?id=NYEUAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=history+of+spokane&hl=en&ei=6dtRTI3QNZKUnQes8bWZBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.253.255 ( talk) 19:58, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
The article has no mention of Clark's adoption of Sacagawea and Charbonneaus' son and daughter. 67.68.39.16 ( talk) 04:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
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Please remove that William Clark was the second governor of the Missouri territory because he was not.
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Under the "Marriage and Family" section of William Clark's page, it incorrectly states that the cemetery in which he is buried, Bellefontaine Cemetery, is registered as a National Historic Landmark. This is not correct as Bellefontaine Cemetery currently holds no such status, so that sentence can be safely deleted. Sources: National Park Service; my job as a historian for the State of Missouri. 168.166.80.168 ( talk) 15:04, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Done Thanks for pointing that out - I suspect the confusion may be that, although the cemetery itself is not an NHL, the Wainwright Tomb, in the cemetery is. Arjayay ( talk) 17:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian ( talk) 21:46, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
– William Clark from the Lewis and Clark expidition is far more notable than any other "William Clark" on Wikipedia, and is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. CookieMonster755 (talk) 01:55, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
In that quotes are not used it's unclear if the Foley source cited states verbatim "the plight of destitute native people increasingly threatened with extinction" or whether this is a paraphrase by the Wiki contributor. If it's a quote, I'd be inclined to leave it alone and cite an alternative balancing source but if it's a paraphrase, it seems more accurate to state that these peoples were threatened with "assimilation" and "relocation" - not extinction, which strongly implies outright genocide. Yes, genocide occurred on the frontier but this is too broad a statement in this context, particularly where Clark was responsible for large territories where outright genocide was not a clearly established policy rather than an aberration and where Clark himself would have been strongly opposed to any policy of outright genocide. His record may be "morally ambiguous" with respect to assimilation and relocation but it's misleading to implicate him in a policy of "extinction." A discussion of the difference between coercive assimilation and genocide has its merits but they lie outside the scope of Clark as a topic. It's best to stick with what actually happened (relocation) in this context and leave the long-term interpretation for another discussion. Calawpro ( talk) 17:16, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
boy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.62.211.218 ( talk) 18:47, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I've noticed a disambiguation section; this might be avoided by including in the title of the article Clark's full name: William Rogers Clark. This is important for another reason: The Rogers-Clark family came to the American colonies in the mid-1600s, ever since making important contributions to the founding and discovery of the present-day United States.
May also wish to consult "The Unknown Travels and Dubious Pursuits of William Clark," by Jo Ann Trogdon, University of Missouri Press, 2015 ... as apparently there was much more to William Rogers Clark than his expedition with Meriwether Lewis, notably the so-called Spanish Conspiracy, his association with James Wilkinson, the discredited general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HBNTexas ( talk • contribs) 10:13, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Wss his full name really William Rogers Clark, or was it just William Clark? His brother Jonathan is also listed as simply Jonathan Clark, with no reference to his having a three-part name. Is there a source? Venqax ( talk) 19:45, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
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Add citation after: "Clark was consulted on affairs on a regular basis. In Louisiana and Missouri, Clark served the United States government for the longest term in history as diplomat to the Native American peoples." [1]
Citation added = Ferguson, Gillum. “Clark.” In Illinois in the War of 1812. University of Illinois Press, 2012. (page 148-152)
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Why the mention that he was a slaveholder? That is unnecessarily editorial. It is not the kind of info normally stated in someone's introduction, unless the intent is to cast a shadow on their character. If the info is somehow considered relevant to anything, it could be worked into the article in context, somehow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venqax ( talk • contribs) 19:34, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
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16:55, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Ourigan, Oregon by William Clark, et al. Sunny Lou Publishing, 2021, ISBN 978-1-95539-216-7. From the journals of William Clark, during the Corps. of Discovery's trip down the Columbia River. Mericlark ( talk) 16:50, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Needs historical revision. Glorifies native American genocide. 151.52.29.237 ( talk) 06:15, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
You realize you used the word "revision" unironically, comrade? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:9366:E040:986F:DAAB:CE4C:6D4B ( talk) 22:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
I would like to add that Clark released his beloved Slave, York, whom he had grown up with has a young boy. He feared the well-being of York if he set him free. Many times freed slaves would be re- caught by slaves brokers and resold, or due to their lack of knowledge, experience and education, would find themselves in the wrong crowd and would end up in trouble. Later, at the urging of Sacajawea’s young boy, whom he took in and educated, he gave York his freedom, a wagon, horses and enough money to purchase land and a small house. President Jefferson did not believe in slavery and was even married to a woman whose mother had been slave. Many of the founding fathers did not but the system brought by the English had yet to be deconstructed. This was a new country with an enormous task ahead of them. 2601:3CB:100:3EE0:ECE8:D2B2:592F:3F87 ( talk) 20:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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Clark was posthumously promoted to the rank of Captain, but this page only shows his rank as Lieutenant. See... https://www.nps.gov/articles/william-clark-officially-made-captain.htm#:~:text=Public%20Law%20106%2D507%20of,Militia%20of%20Upper%20Louisiana%20Territory. 24.160.172.206 ( talk) 07:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
There is an elementary school in Council Bluffs, Iowa. There is also a middle school in Omaha, Nebraska and another middle school which is temporarily closed in Bellevue, Nebraska. All the mentioned cities are along the documented route that the expedition took. As well Council Bluffs, Iowa was named after an event that took place during the expedition. Akasarben1978 ( talk) 03:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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Who did William daddy Clark marry? FroggyJamer 04:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
He married twice: Julia Hancock and then Harriet Kennerly Radford, outliving them both.
Help Please -- ESP 00:27 4 Feb 2006 (UTC)
What did they discover [other than animals] on the Corps of Discovery?????????
Can the rumour of sexual affairs be cited? I found no source on that. Moonmaiden103 12:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Someone requested that this page be moved to
William Clark (disambiguation) because this is a disambiguation page. It's not and
William Clark (disambiguation) is a disambiguation page already.
joturn
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I removed the description of Clark as "Scottish-American." I think in the context of describing someone born in 1770 that the natural implication of "Scottish-American" would be someone born in Scotland who moved to America, not someone born in Virginia of Scottish heritage. john k 03:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
i think someone should add more about the lewis and clark expedition. That's what he's known for the most, anyway. ~~~~Pooja from Calfornia
Can you find out? and he was given land , where is land today? who owens the land given?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.25.105 ( talk) 20:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
There are probably at least one hundred people alive today descended directly from William Clark. There is a family tree of all the known descendants you can see at the Bellefontaine Cemetary office. (I haven't ever sat and counted it all up, at least 100 is my best guess from memory)
You can find out what land Clark owned at the time of his death by looking at his will http://stlcourtrecords.wustl.edu/about-clark-probate.php
EugeniaSTL ( talk) 20:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I know Captain Clark was the administrator of the Territory which encompassed the epicenter of those Madrid earthquakes of 1811-12. Where can I find a record of his reports and actions about this time period? Thank you. J C Kollmann ( talk) 15:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)jc kollmann 0ct. 28, 2009
{{editsemiprotected}}
Please add under further reading: Specht, August J. (2009). Defying Death, Not Duty: Deciphering the Mysteries of Meriwether Lewis. CreateSpace.
ISBN
1449512100, 9781449512101.
MeriwetherLewis ( talk) 17:52, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Not done: Welcome. This book is one of a small number written by Mr. Specht, who doesn't appear to be a historian by training or occupation. [1] Including it under further reading would not benefit the reader or Wikipedia as much as it would the author. Can you explain your reasoning? Thanks, Celestra ( talk) 19:56, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
There is a different photo of Wm. Clark in the 1912 book History of Spokane County by N. W. Durham, which has fallen into the public domain.
The photo is on page 4. The book is digitized here: http://books.google.com/books?id=NYEUAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=history+of+spokane&hl=en&ei=6dtRTI3QNZKUnQes8bWZBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.253.255 ( talk) 19:58, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
The article has no mention of Clark's adoption of Sacagawea and Charbonneaus' son and daughter. 67.68.39.16 ( talk) 04:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
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Please remove that William Clark was the second governor of the Missouri territory because he was not.
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Under the "Marriage and Family" section of William Clark's page, it incorrectly states that the cemetery in which he is buried, Bellefontaine Cemetery, is registered as a National Historic Landmark. This is not correct as Bellefontaine Cemetery currently holds no such status, so that sentence can be safely deleted. Sources: National Park Service; my job as a historian for the State of Missouri. 168.166.80.168 ( talk) 15:04, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Done Thanks for pointing that out - I suspect the confusion may be that, although the cemetery itself is not an NHL, the Wainwright Tomb, in the cemetery is. Arjayay ( talk) 17:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian ( talk) 21:46, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
– William Clark from the Lewis and Clark expidition is far more notable than any other "William Clark" on Wikipedia, and is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. CookieMonster755 (talk) 01:55, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
In that quotes are not used it's unclear if the Foley source cited states verbatim "the plight of destitute native people increasingly threatened with extinction" or whether this is a paraphrase by the Wiki contributor. If it's a quote, I'd be inclined to leave it alone and cite an alternative balancing source but if it's a paraphrase, it seems more accurate to state that these peoples were threatened with "assimilation" and "relocation" - not extinction, which strongly implies outright genocide. Yes, genocide occurred on the frontier but this is too broad a statement in this context, particularly where Clark was responsible for large territories where outright genocide was not a clearly established policy rather than an aberration and where Clark himself would have been strongly opposed to any policy of outright genocide. His record may be "morally ambiguous" with respect to assimilation and relocation but it's misleading to implicate him in a policy of "extinction." A discussion of the difference between coercive assimilation and genocide has its merits but they lie outside the scope of Clark as a topic. It's best to stick with what actually happened (relocation) in this context and leave the long-term interpretation for another discussion. Calawpro ( talk) 17:16, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
boy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.62.211.218 ( talk) 18:47, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I've noticed a disambiguation section; this might be avoided by including in the title of the article Clark's full name: William Rogers Clark. This is important for another reason: The Rogers-Clark family came to the American colonies in the mid-1600s, ever since making important contributions to the founding and discovery of the present-day United States.
May also wish to consult "The Unknown Travels and Dubious Pursuits of William Clark," by Jo Ann Trogdon, University of Missouri Press, 2015 ... as apparently there was much more to William Rogers Clark than his expedition with Meriwether Lewis, notably the so-called Spanish Conspiracy, his association with James Wilkinson, the discredited general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HBNTexas ( talk • contribs) 10:13, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Wss his full name really William Rogers Clark, or was it just William Clark? His brother Jonathan is also listed as simply Jonathan Clark, with no reference to his having a three-part name. Is there a source? Venqax ( talk) 19:45, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
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Add citation after: "Clark was consulted on affairs on a regular basis. In Louisiana and Missouri, Clark served the United States government for the longest term in history as diplomat to the Native American peoples." [1]
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16:55, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Ourigan, Oregon by William Clark, et al. Sunny Lou Publishing, 2021, ISBN 978-1-95539-216-7. From the journals of William Clark, during the Corps. of Discovery's trip down the Columbia River. Mericlark ( talk) 16:50, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Needs historical revision. Glorifies native American genocide. 151.52.29.237 ( talk) 06:15, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
You realize you used the word "revision" unironically, comrade? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:9366:E040:986F:DAAB:CE4C:6D4B ( talk) 22:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
I would like to add that Clark released his beloved Slave, York, whom he had grown up with has a young boy. He feared the well-being of York if he set him free. Many times freed slaves would be re- caught by slaves brokers and resold, or due to their lack of knowledge, experience and education, would find themselves in the wrong crowd and would end up in trouble. Later, at the urging of Sacajawea’s young boy, whom he took in and educated, he gave York his freedom, a wagon, horses and enough money to purchase land and a small house. President Jefferson did not believe in slavery and was even married to a woman whose mother had been slave. Many of the founding fathers did not but the system brought by the English had yet to be deconstructed. This was a new country with an enormous task ahead of them. 2601:3CB:100:3EE0:ECE8:D2B2:592F:3F87 ( talk) 20:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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Clark was posthumously promoted to the rank of Captain, but this page only shows his rank as Lieutenant. See... https://www.nps.gov/articles/william-clark-officially-made-captain.htm#:~:text=Public%20Law%20106%2D507%20of,Militia%20of%20Upper%20Louisiana%20Territory. 24.160.172.206 ( talk) 07:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
There is an elementary school in Council Bluffs, Iowa. There is also a middle school in Omaha, Nebraska and another middle school which is temporarily closed in Bellevue, Nebraska. All the mentioned cities are along the documented route that the expedition took. As well Council Bluffs, Iowa was named after an event that took place during the expedition. Akasarben1978 ( talk) 03:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC)