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Dafoe was not expelled from high school for shooting a pornographic film. He appeared on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on January 24, 2018 (S3 Ep77) where he explained what happened. This section should be updated.
Dafoe was described as a "founding member" of the Wooster Group. According to an interview with the actor, this is not the case: "When I saw Elizabeth LeCompte's work, I made a beeline for The Wooster Group. I went over to The Performing Garage, where the group was based, and more or less said, 'I just want to be around you people.' I started working as a carpenter, did very small roles on stage and slowly I insinuated myself into the company." (From On Acting: Interviews with Actors, Mary Luckhurst and Chloe Veltman, eds., London: Faber and Faber, 2001, p. 23) This clearly implies the group was in existence at the time that he "insinuated himself," and thus he is not a "founding member." Desertpapa ( talk) 22:25, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello, my name is Mike Giambra, and I'm the primary contributor to the news and info site, the "Willem Dafoe Failure Watch!". My site, at www.failurewatch.com, was taken off links section in the Willem Dafoe entry of the Wikipedia for the following reason:
Hob: -rm link to extremely hostile satire(?) site with no notable info
I find your reasoning to be false. My site was removed due to a perceived “hostility” - I would completely understand if it were the policy of the Wikipedia to not link to sites that are biased one way or another on an issue, but that simply isn’t the case. The Wikipedia’s entry on Abortion, ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion#External_links) for example, breaks the links down into “Pro Life” and “Pro Choice” sections. Cindy Sheehan’s Wikipedia entry has a links section marked “Criticism and Support” ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_sheehan#Criticism_and_support). Therefore, I will enact a similar linking scheme in the Willem Dafoe entry - a subsection of the links section marked “Critics and Supporters”.
Secondly, to state that mine is a site with no notable info is in clear contradiction of the facts - in reality, my site has more current news and information about actor Willem Dafoe than any other website on the planet. Be it Willem's personal or professional life, we're talking about it first and in the most detail.
Examples are plentiful: we discussed his involvement narrating the Heaven's Gate documentary, "Final Cut" at the Seattle Film Festival. We talked about Michelle Bohan (his agent) moving from William Morris to Endeavor, we’ve discussed his upcoming roles in both Lars von Trier’s “Manderlay” and the upcoming satire American Dreamz [sic], his 50th birthday and recent wedding…the list goes on and on. We’ve got plenty of notable information, and a cursory glance at my website’s archives will make that fact obvious. -- Faildafoe 03:22, 01 Sept 2005 (PST)
I'm just asking cause I'm not sure, his page name is Willem Dafoe yet his name at the beginning of the page is William Dafoe, Jr. Now my question is which name is the real one? - RVDDP2501 20:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I've cut out the so-called "Memorable Quotes" section, since it is just a few almost random lines, all from a single character in a couple of Dafoe's movies. These are not Dafoe quotes, they are lines written by scriptwriters that Dafoe delivered. If such a section was needed, it would be for things that Dafoe himself said, about his life or his career or whatever. -- Orange Mike 13:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Listing 18 different films in the lead paragraph is too much. The fact that is it all one sentence and all of them are wikilinked just makes it worse. The sentence is that he has been in a "wide range" of films, so why not give a couple of examples of different genres, not a dozen and a half random films? Niteshift36 ( talk) 06:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
such a hugely controversial film and one of Willem's most notable roles...Why is it not mentioned in the film section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.141.164 ( talk) 07:06, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
In 2011, @ Niteshift36: raised a point on this talk page that the lead is a sea of blue. I am in agreement. There are presently 16 examples of films that Dafoe is known for—can we shorten this? Maybe pick six or three or something more reasonable? Oscar-nominated films, maybe? Seems like Shadow of a Vampire and Platoon are no-brainers, since he was Academy Award-nominated for Best Supporting Actor. Ponderous lists in any form are magnets for more additions, as exemplified here. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 17:06, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
What was his birth name? I doubt he was named "William J. Dafoe"? What's the J for? Andy Dingley ( talk) 11:12, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
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Does Alma mater section in infobox need to be supported with a reliable source or not. In case, I was just wondering what his Alma mater actually was ( University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee). Thank you, Hartma9616 ( talk) 16:39, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
Today is February 14, 2024. This page indicates that Willem Dafoe died on November 13, 2024. That is 9 months in the future and as far as I can tell, Mr. Dafoe is still alive. Featherbedhead ( talk) 23:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Please add. 211.30.9.188 ( talk) 11:02, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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Dafoe was not expelled from high school for shooting a pornographic film. He appeared on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on January 24, 2018 (S3 Ep77) where he explained what happened. This section should be updated.
Dafoe was described as a "founding member" of the Wooster Group. According to an interview with the actor, this is not the case: "When I saw Elizabeth LeCompte's work, I made a beeline for The Wooster Group. I went over to The Performing Garage, where the group was based, and more or less said, 'I just want to be around you people.' I started working as a carpenter, did very small roles on stage and slowly I insinuated myself into the company." (From On Acting: Interviews with Actors, Mary Luckhurst and Chloe Veltman, eds., London: Faber and Faber, 2001, p. 23) This clearly implies the group was in existence at the time that he "insinuated himself," and thus he is not a "founding member." Desertpapa ( talk) 22:25, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello, my name is Mike Giambra, and I'm the primary contributor to the news and info site, the "Willem Dafoe Failure Watch!". My site, at www.failurewatch.com, was taken off links section in the Willem Dafoe entry of the Wikipedia for the following reason:
Hob: -rm link to extremely hostile satire(?) site with no notable info
I find your reasoning to be false. My site was removed due to a perceived “hostility” - I would completely understand if it were the policy of the Wikipedia to not link to sites that are biased one way or another on an issue, but that simply isn’t the case. The Wikipedia’s entry on Abortion, ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion#External_links) for example, breaks the links down into “Pro Life” and “Pro Choice” sections. Cindy Sheehan’s Wikipedia entry has a links section marked “Criticism and Support” ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_sheehan#Criticism_and_support). Therefore, I will enact a similar linking scheme in the Willem Dafoe entry - a subsection of the links section marked “Critics and Supporters”.
Secondly, to state that mine is a site with no notable info is in clear contradiction of the facts - in reality, my site has more current news and information about actor Willem Dafoe than any other website on the planet. Be it Willem's personal or professional life, we're talking about it first and in the most detail.
Examples are plentiful: we discussed his involvement narrating the Heaven's Gate documentary, "Final Cut" at the Seattle Film Festival. We talked about Michelle Bohan (his agent) moving from William Morris to Endeavor, we’ve discussed his upcoming roles in both Lars von Trier’s “Manderlay” and the upcoming satire American Dreamz [sic], his 50th birthday and recent wedding…the list goes on and on. We’ve got plenty of notable information, and a cursory glance at my website’s archives will make that fact obvious. -- Faildafoe 03:22, 01 Sept 2005 (PST)
I'm just asking cause I'm not sure, his page name is Willem Dafoe yet his name at the beginning of the page is William Dafoe, Jr. Now my question is which name is the real one? - RVDDP2501 20:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I've cut out the so-called "Memorable Quotes" section, since it is just a few almost random lines, all from a single character in a couple of Dafoe's movies. These are not Dafoe quotes, they are lines written by scriptwriters that Dafoe delivered. If such a section was needed, it would be for things that Dafoe himself said, about his life or his career or whatever. -- Orange Mike 13:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Listing 18 different films in the lead paragraph is too much. The fact that is it all one sentence and all of them are wikilinked just makes it worse. The sentence is that he has been in a "wide range" of films, so why not give a couple of examples of different genres, not a dozen and a half random films? Niteshift36 ( talk) 06:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
such a hugely controversial film and one of Willem's most notable roles...Why is it not mentioned in the film section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.141.164 ( talk) 07:06, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
In 2011, @ Niteshift36: raised a point on this talk page that the lead is a sea of blue. I am in agreement. There are presently 16 examples of films that Dafoe is known for—can we shorten this? Maybe pick six or three or something more reasonable? Oscar-nominated films, maybe? Seems like Shadow of a Vampire and Platoon are no-brainers, since he was Academy Award-nominated for Best Supporting Actor. Ponderous lists in any form are magnets for more additions, as exemplified here. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 17:06, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
What was his birth name? I doubt he was named "William J. Dafoe"? What's the J for? Andy Dingley ( talk) 11:12, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
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This BLP has been subject to repeated, recent, defamatory vandalism. Catrìona ( talk) 02:08, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Does Alma mater section in infobox need to be supported with a reliable source or not. In case, I was just wondering what his Alma mater actually was ( University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee). Thank you, Hartma9616 ( talk) 16:39, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
Today is February 14, 2024. This page indicates that Willem Dafoe died on November 13, 2024. That is 9 months in the future and as far as I can tell, Mr. Dafoe is still alive. Featherbedhead ( talk) 23:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Please add. 211.30.9.188 ( talk) 11:02, 9 March 2024 (UTC)