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According to [1], the Alberta Alliance Party did not dissolve, but changed it sname to the Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta, and accepted the members, assets and liabilities and by-laws of the Wildrose Party. how should the articles reflect this? should the Alberta Alliance Party article be merged into this one? Probably not. Comments? Ground Zero | t
She is the new leader of Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta, she also describe herself as 'social libertarian', according to the link below. http://www.calgarylibertarian.ca/?p=184 Wouldn't it make sense in addition to the party's ideology as 'conservatism' should also add 'libertarianism'? If you also look at their policy at their website online, it does show libertarian values. REDSoC ( talk) 03:33, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
If the party does not formally identify as libertarian, then it would not be appropriate to put that as their classification. It would, however, be quite appropriate to include information about the libertarian nature of the party's policies and the stated views of their new leader (including the citations such as the one you provided above). — GrantNeufeld ( talk) 06:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
How would one go making an article about their similarity stance on libertarian values, without giving the impression to readers that Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta is a Libertarian party when its strictly self-declared conservative party? REDSoC ( talk) 17:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Best to mention that there are social conservative, fiscal conservative, and libertarian factions - as there is some confusion about this issue. This has been stated by Danielle Smith, and former ED - Vitor Marciano. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.146.206.45 ( talk) 01:45, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Jeff Willerton is referred to as an "author" which is true, but I believe he is more often referenced as an "Airdrie businessman." Landroo ( talk) 17:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
The full name of the party is "Wildose Alliance Party" [2], not "Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta", so the page (along with other related pages like this one should be renamed to reflect this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Invisible Hand ( talk • contribs) 21:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: WP:SNOW move. 117Avenue ( talk) 06:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta → Wildrose Alliance Party – The name is incorrect, not being referred to in this manner anywhere, including with Elections Alberta, as per the above comment. This request is made on the grounds of precision. Quackgrassacrez ( talk) 17:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
The Party has changed it's name, dropping Alliance. The problem is that one of the legacy parties that merged to form this party was also called the Wildrose Party. How should we best approach this? Nickjbor ( talk) 20:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm disputing the factual accuracy of the article, as the name of the party hasn't legally changed. Me-123567-Me ( talk) 21:18, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
So Wikipedia policy does not support using the official name as the article title just because it is the official name. Ground Zero | t 23:53, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Still disputing the factual accuracy. Commonname is great, but still not satisfied. Me-123567-Me ( talk) 03:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Currently, the "policies" section of this page is hopelessly opaque: where are the party's positions on abortion, private health care, education etc.? Does someone with some advanced knowledge in Albertan politics write up a more detailed description of the party's policy positions? Colipon+( Talk) 17:37, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Here are references to the Wildrose Party being "right-wing", from a wide range of Canadian sources:
Ground Zero | t 21:37, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
These are all over a year old and do not reflect the current policy direction of the party today, which is centre-right, and has been documented at the most recent party gatherings including the AGM in November and the Leader's Congresses this spring: http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/looking-to-the-future-wildrose-leader-pushes-for-a-more-progressive-approach/article5638894/?service=mobile — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montueswed ( talk • contribs) 22:25, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
To earlier participants in this discussion Ground Zero, Montueswed, Resolute: according to this edit by Charles lindberg, "see the Talk Page, this was discussed extensively. The consensus is right-wing." Is this a correct description of the consensus? It is the opposite of what Montueswed changed to on 11 June 2013. Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 13:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
In appraising the pages of political parties in Alberta, some inconsistency has become apparent. Pages for Alberta Liberal Party, Alberta New Democratic Party and the Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta do not give space to the opinions of opposing political parties. The views of opposing parties cannot be considered neutral in characterizing Wildrose, even if from a secondary source. The below sections do not comply with the goals of fairness and consistency when evaluated against the pages of other Alberta political parties. Thus, I propose deletion of the following two statements in Policy and Identity: "Opponents have often characterised the party as extremist: former Liberal leader David Swann, in congratulating Smith on her election as leader, argued that Albertans would be "uneasy" with the "rather extreme, socially conservative, economically irresponsible vision of the party"[46] - and - "Opposing politicians have criticized the Wildrose Party's policies as vague and undefined (including the topic of gun ownership),[51] while supporters have praised the party under Smith as "refreshing".[47]" Montueswed ( talk) 16:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Some of this page has become severely outdated and requires maintenance. I propose the following: 1. Under "Danielle Smith Leadership," reference is made to 2011 candidate nominations and the pending 2013 election. This should be updated to 2014 information with new references. 2. Under "2009 leadership election," reference is made to a potential candidate. This lacks relevance and should be removed. Other political party pages do not give space to all the candidates that withdraw from leadership races. 3. Under "Danielle Smith Leadership," the fifth paragraph on conscience rights is outdated as the party repealed that policy in 2014. Update required. 4. "Policy and identity" is severely outdated. Other political party pages do not give such generous air time to the inititives of past years. As such, the references to the 2009 task force should be removed. The party has also changed its views on climate change. I fail to see how polling from 2010 and 2011 is relevant today. Updates required. 5. Under "Danielle Smith leadership," paragraph 2 concerning a former employee should be removed. The person in question has a much lengthier record with the PC association, but isn't mentioned at that page at all. Thank you for considering these changes. I look forward to any comments before moving forward to make these improvements. Montueswed ( talk) 16:26, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
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Now that the Wildrose & the PC have merged, what's the Wildrose status? GoodDay ( talk) 15:54, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Now that the "Wildrose Party" has dissolved and there are plans by Wexit and the Freedom Conservatives to form a new "Wildrose" Independence Party, maybe we should have a note at the top of this article to avoid confusion. The "new" party, does not exist yet, and does not have an article yet, but has been in the news a fair bit. I have created a redirect to the Wild Rose disambiguation page, which notes the proposal. I have also added content here and on the Wexit and Freedom Conservative articles about the proposal.-- Darryl Kerrigan ( talk) 19:27, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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Uncited paragraphs, and the "Policy and identity" section has a "needs update" banner from 2016. Z1720 ( talk) 15:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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According to [1], the Alberta Alliance Party did not dissolve, but changed it sname to the Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta, and accepted the members, assets and liabilities and by-laws of the Wildrose Party. how should the articles reflect this? should the Alberta Alliance Party article be merged into this one? Probably not. Comments? Ground Zero | t
She is the new leader of Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta, she also describe herself as 'social libertarian', according to the link below. http://www.calgarylibertarian.ca/?p=184 Wouldn't it make sense in addition to the party's ideology as 'conservatism' should also add 'libertarianism'? If you also look at their policy at their website online, it does show libertarian values. REDSoC ( talk) 03:33, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
If the party does not formally identify as libertarian, then it would not be appropriate to put that as their classification. It would, however, be quite appropriate to include information about the libertarian nature of the party's policies and the stated views of their new leader (including the citations such as the one you provided above). — GrantNeufeld ( talk) 06:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
How would one go making an article about their similarity stance on libertarian values, without giving the impression to readers that Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta is a Libertarian party when its strictly self-declared conservative party? REDSoC ( talk) 17:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Best to mention that there are social conservative, fiscal conservative, and libertarian factions - as there is some confusion about this issue. This has been stated by Danielle Smith, and former ED - Vitor Marciano. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.146.206.45 ( talk) 01:45, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Jeff Willerton is referred to as an "author" which is true, but I believe he is more often referenced as an "Airdrie businessman." Landroo ( talk) 17:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
The full name of the party is "Wildose Alliance Party" [2], not "Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta", so the page (along with other related pages like this one should be renamed to reflect this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Invisible Hand ( talk • contribs) 21:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: WP:SNOW move. 117Avenue ( talk) 06:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta → Wildrose Alliance Party – The name is incorrect, not being referred to in this manner anywhere, including with Elections Alberta, as per the above comment. This request is made on the grounds of precision. Quackgrassacrez ( talk) 17:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
The Party has changed it's name, dropping Alliance. The problem is that one of the legacy parties that merged to form this party was also called the Wildrose Party. How should we best approach this? Nickjbor ( talk) 20:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm disputing the factual accuracy of the article, as the name of the party hasn't legally changed. Me-123567-Me ( talk) 21:18, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
So Wikipedia policy does not support using the official name as the article title just because it is the official name. Ground Zero | t 23:53, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Still disputing the factual accuracy. Commonname is great, but still not satisfied. Me-123567-Me ( talk) 03:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Currently, the "policies" section of this page is hopelessly opaque: where are the party's positions on abortion, private health care, education etc.? Does someone with some advanced knowledge in Albertan politics write up a more detailed description of the party's policy positions? Colipon+( Talk) 17:37, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Here are references to the Wildrose Party being "right-wing", from a wide range of Canadian sources:
Ground Zero | t 21:37, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
These are all over a year old and do not reflect the current policy direction of the party today, which is centre-right, and has been documented at the most recent party gatherings including the AGM in November and the Leader's Congresses this spring: http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/looking-to-the-future-wildrose-leader-pushes-for-a-more-progressive-approach/article5638894/?service=mobile — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montueswed ( talk • contribs) 22:25, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
To earlier participants in this discussion Ground Zero, Montueswed, Resolute: according to this edit by Charles lindberg, "see the Talk Page, this was discussed extensively. The consensus is right-wing." Is this a correct description of the consensus? It is the opposite of what Montueswed changed to on 11 June 2013. Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 13:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
In appraising the pages of political parties in Alberta, some inconsistency has become apparent. Pages for Alberta Liberal Party, Alberta New Democratic Party and the Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta do not give space to the opinions of opposing political parties. The views of opposing parties cannot be considered neutral in characterizing Wildrose, even if from a secondary source. The below sections do not comply with the goals of fairness and consistency when evaluated against the pages of other Alberta political parties. Thus, I propose deletion of the following two statements in Policy and Identity: "Opponents have often characterised the party as extremist: former Liberal leader David Swann, in congratulating Smith on her election as leader, argued that Albertans would be "uneasy" with the "rather extreme, socially conservative, economically irresponsible vision of the party"[46] - and - "Opposing politicians have criticized the Wildrose Party's policies as vague and undefined (including the topic of gun ownership),[51] while supporters have praised the party under Smith as "refreshing".[47]" Montueswed ( talk) 16:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Some of this page has become severely outdated and requires maintenance. I propose the following: 1. Under "Danielle Smith Leadership," reference is made to 2011 candidate nominations and the pending 2013 election. This should be updated to 2014 information with new references. 2. Under "2009 leadership election," reference is made to a potential candidate. This lacks relevance and should be removed. Other political party pages do not give space to all the candidates that withdraw from leadership races. 3. Under "Danielle Smith Leadership," the fifth paragraph on conscience rights is outdated as the party repealed that policy in 2014. Update required. 4. "Policy and identity" is severely outdated. Other political party pages do not give such generous air time to the inititives of past years. As such, the references to the 2009 task force should be removed. The party has also changed its views on climate change. I fail to see how polling from 2010 and 2011 is relevant today. Updates required. 5. Under "Danielle Smith leadership," paragraph 2 concerning a former employee should be removed. The person in question has a much lengthier record with the PC association, but isn't mentioned at that page at all. Thank you for considering these changes. I look forward to any comments before moving forward to make these improvements. Montueswed ( talk) 16:26, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
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Now that the Wildrose & the PC have merged, what's the Wildrose status? GoodDay ( talk) 15:54, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Now that the "Wildrose Party" has dissolved and there are plans by Wexit and the Freedom Conservatives to form a new "Wildrose" Independence Party, maybe we should have a note at the top of this article to avoid confusion. The "new" party, does not exist yet, and does not have an article yet, but has been in the news a fair bit. I have created a redirect to the Wild Rose disambiguation page, which notes the proposal. I have also added content here and on the Wexit and Freedom Conservative articles about the proposal.-- Darryl Kerrigan ( talk) 19:27, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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Uncited paragraphs, and the "Policy and identity" section has a "needs update" banner from 2016. Z1720 ( talk) 15:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC)