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There is a website [1] which specialises in the numerous damages to property caused by the use of the Wii. While comical, does this deserve a mention? Eedo Bee 07:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I also had a problem with my Wii, and I found a pretty good Tech Support site for Consumer Electronics that have a section for the Wii Console I believe it will be a good idea to add it to the external links. I have no permission to edit this thread so I would appreciate if someone will add it for me. Here is the page for the Wii Technical Support & Troubleshooting page. Let me know what you think. JerryGold 11:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Pardon me for asking but why did not anyone write on the Wii article a warning that you do not actually need to buy an SD card to save your gamesaves on Wii. The salesperson assures me that I need an SD card because It is the equivalent of Nintendo GameCube memory cards (for Wii). But it turns out that I wasted my money buying it as I can perfectly save my gavesaves without the SD card. 220.239.112.241 07:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
The article already says that the Wii has built in memory for game saves.
Where? Where in the article does it says that?
I put it to you that the article DOES NOT SAY THAT.
Come on, type the section where it says that, in black and white for me.
220.239.112.241 17:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
"Storage:
-- Maxa megalon 2000 02:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The following references are invalid:
This is not a good reflection of a featured article, and is just the first two links that I checked. I highly expect there are others. Bilge [ T C 22:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
If game titles are supposed to be written in italics, shouldn't channel names like the "Everybody Votes Channel" and "Internet Channel" be italicized too? It's not like they are menu features like the the "Message Board" or "Address Book"-- they're their own separate channels. After all, "Wii channels" are all just software applications. Since "Internet Channel" is merely the web browsing software's title, shouldn't it be italicized the same way as a Virtual Console game's title would? -- 24.154.105.181 15:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
This article now has more revisions than the Adolf Hitler page, so (on top of being a featured article) I'd just like to congratulate you all and keep up the good work ^_^ At this pace the Wii article will have more revisions than the Jesus page! JayKeaton 17:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
It says the storage is expandable via an SD card (up to 2 GB). Is this a hardware limitation or is this simply because the Wii-branded SD cards max out at 2 GB? Third party SD cards work in the Wii just as well as the branded ones, so if there is no hardware limitation, theoretically you could pop a 4GB+ card in and it should still work. Does anyone know where to verify this info so it can be appropriately updated? Danny 22:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The article states that up to four Remotes can be connected, but it doesn't have any details on Remotes being synced to the console. Say your friend has four Remotes and you bring yours over to transfer Miis or something, can you sync a fifth Remote but just have four connected at any one time? Unless I missed it, this doesn't seem to be addressed in the article. Danny 22:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone has placed a tag for possible merge with this article (without starting a discussion themselves). What do people say to a merger?
Oppose Wii Remote has it's own article. It makes most common sense that Wii Balance Board has it's own, as it is a controller for the Wii in it's own right compared to the Wii Remote. LN3000 23:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
So far, it's only been reported by Kotaku, which isn't generally the most reliable of sources (especially when it comes to reporting anonymous, insider, or second-hand information), but I can't imagine misreporting a quotation from a direct interview. Thoughts? Dancter 01:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
"Nintendo states that its console targets a broader demographic than that of Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Sony's PlayStation 3,[4] but it competes with both as part of the seventh generation of gaming systems."
I have no problem with the sentence as a whole; however, using the word "but" implies a negative conotation. Wikipedia is meant to be a well-written, unbias resource when informational. Although it is not a problem to question the status as a seventh generation gaming system due to its lack of graphics, the introduction is not the place to do it. According to Wikipedia, articles are to be "well written, comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral and stable." The definition of "but" is as follows:
1. on the contrary; yet: My brother went, but I did not. 2. except; save: She was so overcome with grief she could do nothing but weep. 3. unless; if not; except that (fol. by a clause, often with that expressed): Nothing would do but that I should come in. 4. without the circumstance that: It never rains but it pours. 5. otherwise than: There is no hope but by prayer. 6. that (used esp. after doubt, deny, etc., with a negative): I don't doubt but he will do it. 7. who not; that not: No leaders worthy of the name ever existed but they were optimists. 8. (used as an intensifier to introduce an exclamatory expression): But she's beautiful! 9. Informal. than: It no sooner started raining but it stopped.
I have italicized the only definition that can possibly fit the definition of "but" in this instance. There is no need for it to be defined as "on the contrary" because contrary is defined as "opposite in nature and character." In which case, the sentence does not make sense at all because the first half does NOT deserving of being a seventh generation of gaming system, instead it simply states that it targets a "broader demographic." As such, the sentence deserves the word "and" which is defined as follows:
1. (used to connect grammatically coordinate words, phrases, or clauses) along or together with; as well as; in addition to; besides; also; moreover: pens and pencils. 2. added to; plus: 2 and 2 are 4. 3. then: He read for an hour and went to bed. 4. also, at the same time: to sleep and dream. 5. then again; repeatedly: He coughed and coughed. 6. (used to imply different qualities in things having the same name): There are bargains and bargains, so watch out. 7. (used to introduce a sentence, implying continuation) also; then: And then it happened. 8. Informal. to (used between two finite verbs): Try and do it. Call and see if she's home yet. 9. (used to introduce a consequence or conditional result): He felt sick and decided to lie down for a while. Say one more word about it and I'll scream. 10. but; on the contrary: He tried to run five miles and couldn't. They said they were about to leave and then stayed for two more hours. 11. (used to connect alternatives): He felt that he was being forced to choose between his career and his family. 12. (used to introduce a comment on the preceding clause): They don't like each other—and with good reason. 13. Archaic. if: and you please. Compare an2. –noun 14. an added condition, stipulation, detail, or particular: He accepted the job, no ands or buts about it.
I have italicized the definition in which "and" is filling in this instance. In my honest opinion, the two sentences don't deserve to be linked at all, instead they deserve to become seperate sentences entirely since the two points made are unrelated; however, in the interest of maintaining the sentence as close to its original form as possible "and" is the proper term to use in the sentence.
As such the sentence should read as follows: "Nintendo states that its console targets a broader demographic than that of Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Sony's PlayStation 3,[4] and it competes with both as part of the seventh generation of gaming systems." Cadwal 04:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Regarding this revert, I want to point two things:
Therefore, I believe the given reference is well placed. -- ReyBrujo 05:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
The estimate on the Wii article is inaccurate - according to Nintendo.
There own financial results: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2007/070426.pdf
These two articles, published today, are reporting on the Nintendo financials (PDF) posted above. No amount of popular estimating by Media Create, Chart Trak, Famitsu and NPD can possibly be accurate if it is greater than the number Nintendo themselves say they have shipped. 136.2.1.153 12:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
The locked article, maintained by rosy-eyed-agenda-driven fans, needs to be changed ASAP. 136.2.1.153 12:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/26/business/AS-FIN-EARNS-Japan-Nintendo.php "Nintendo said it sold 5.84 million Wii machines worldwide in the five months since its release"
"5.84 million of its new Wii(TM) home video game systems globally" http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/nintendo_cleans_up_in_its_fiscal_year_results.html
136.2.1.153 12:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
This section is clearly inaccurate, what is the holdup? Do the maintainers of this article have an agenda? Why is the update taking so long? 136.2.1.153 14:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Since we see only glowing content about the markets' reception of the console Perhaps mention of Nintendo's failure to meet its own Q1 2007 Target may be in order to provide some resonable semblance of objectivity?
"The company shipped 5.84 million Wii consoles since its introduction, just shy of Nintendo's latest target of 6 million."[ [4]] 136.2.1.153 17:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Whoever added it, what is your dispute with the SOURCED and ACCURATE sales numbers? The sources are accurate and reliable. Japan numbers come from Media Create, North America comes from NPD reports. Australia and New Zealand is also reliable. The only one that might be a problem is Europe, but a Nintendo exec gave the 2 million estimate. The numbers are up to date. So what is the problem? TJ Spyke 22:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
136.1.1.154 13:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
According to this article the has sold 5.84 million worldwide not the 6.80 million on this wiki page
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/26994/Nintendo-hardware-sales-revealed —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neocarrillo ( talk • contribs) 14:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC).
Does anyone think that if Nintendo manufactured Wiis faster, than the sales amount would surpass the Xbox 360? And if so, is it worth mentioning in the article?-- Gundor Twintle Fluffy 12:27, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
8.8 million i remember that thing sold like 10 million O:!or am i wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitamaru ( talk • contribs)
In the E3 preview show on G4, didn't they say that the Wii outsold both systems: the PS3 4 to 1 and the 360 2 to 1 or something like that? FrogTape 20:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm modifying the global number to 8.2 million+, there is no basis on the 10 million+ units in the Forbe article, hopefully Nintendo will release it's quarterly report some time later this month, before this no one should change the value unless there are solid number being referenced. Kenimaru 08:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
To Frogtape:Yes, during the Microsoft Media Event shown on G4, Peter Moore showed the sales chat for the three systems. The Wii was shown selling 100,000 more units worldwide than the 360. I really don't think Microsoft would lie to make Nintendo look better! Marioman49 19:34, July 14 2007 (UTC)
Why does it say the total is 8.2 million? I just added up the sourced numbers, and they add up to 8,183,601 (so 8.18 million should be listed). Chuck Quizmo 21:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
The comment about being behind 360 should be removed based on units sold, because we don't have an exact number for 360s sold World wide, but only the total number shipped. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.133.139.5 ( talk • contribs).
The Wii has just surpassed the Xbox 360 in sales, and updated sales figures are available on not only the Wii but the PS3 and Xbox 360. http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=508 . 22 August 2007 Erickurth 01:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised there is no mention of any therapeutic or health benefits. There's Wii Fit (and the balance board), but also, the Wii is being used in therapy sessions in North Carolina ( [6]). Supposedly the first hospital to use the Wii was the Glenrose Rehabilitation Hospital in Edmonton, Alberta Canada. I think we should mention it, yeah? 70.104.16.81 03:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Should we add a section about how some developers and Gamers suspect the wii to be a fad? If you allow me I'll do it myself. I already have official sources. Starwarsrulez 02:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Well actually Insomniac states that what they wrote was not authorized or endorsed by Sony. They also say that they are a completely 100% independant studio. They haven't been bought out by Sony or signed a contract with them. They could immediately turn over and develop for Nintedo or MS but I won't add anything.In the article they also disagree with some things Sony has done and complement Nintendo and Microsoft sometimes. There are still the gaming sites as well. Has it been noted that the failure rate for the Wii is less than one percent. It might be zero but I'm not sure. I'll give you the link if you want. Starwarsrulez 04:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Are there any confirmation about the Wii Elite rumor? I spotted it at a blog. Note that I haven't done any research on this. -- ReCover 10:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
That is so fake. First of all like he said Nintendo Wi-Fi is free. Second of all Nintendo wouldn't make the Wii Remote that ugly. Third he says the Wii is getting StarCraft 2, then why did Blizzard said they had no plans to release it on any console because it was to fast paced for consoles. I don't think we should post anything like this until Nintendo actually confirms something. Starwarsrulez 15:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
I dunno, but it seems that the lead section is a bit sparse, especially for a featured article. Is there really that little to say in the lead? Another concern is that it is possible in the future that print versions of Wikipedia would only include the lead section and so the lead must provide a complete summary of the rest of the article. Axem Titanium 19:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
cold soneone add this link to the article. I would do it, but my wireless cnncetion doesnt let me stay logged in. The Placebo Effect 69.19.14.43 03:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
The electronics store Fravega, is going to sell the Wii since the 10th of August 2007, without authorization from Nintendo. While this isn't an official release, this is quite common in Argentina as the PS3 is sold without authorization from Sony in Carrefour supermarkets and several stores sell next-gen consoles. Do I add this to the article? Note: it's legal to sell consoles without them being officially released, at least in Argentina. Sony claims this to be otherwise, but no one has said anything yet. Proof: http://ar.geocities.com/roberto_carrazzoni/img002.jpg -- I Am Magnus talk 23:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it not HD, or can a HD version be made?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ajuk ( talk • contribs).
As reported, the United Kingdom suffered a large shortage of console units as many high-street and online stores were unable to fulfill all preorders when it was released on December 8, 2006.[20] As of March 2007, some UK stores still had a shortage of consoles,[21]and as of June 2007, demand still outpaced supply in US.
Is there a good reason for the UK shortage at launching time to be mentioned specifically? As I perceive it, it was more of a worldwide issue, so mentioning the problem in UK only could be misleading. I know here in Spain demand largely exceded offer, at least during the first months. I'm not changing it for a while, to let people make a point, if there is one to be made. Otherwise, I'll remove the paragraph that talks about it. Juanmejgom 23:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Uh, I noticed that it has been changed to say "The Wii" when I thought it was just supposed to say "Wii". It also says to join the discussion here, but it has been archived so I'd like to start a new discussion about it if you all don't mind. I believe it should read "Wii" as opposed to "The Wii", because the article is simply called Wii and "The Wii" sounds too personalised, while the lack of "The" sounds more encyclopedic. That's my reasons anyway. .:Alex:. 18:12, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please update the Wii Menu picture to reflect the new update (Clock, etc)? Thanks! LN3000 07:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Just like other consoles such as the XBOX 360, the Wii sells out extremely quickly. Should this be mentioned? 67.188.172.165 21:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Sadly, in Asia and other parts of the world pirated Wii games are now very common, and many people have had their consoles modded to play fake games. They are even selling Nintendo GameCube game compilation discs marked as Wii titles! Should we mention this in the article? Nintenboy01 22:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
I just Google searched "Wiimote" and there are results. And when I edit the "Wii Remote" section, I put "also known as the "Wiimote", but someone reverted my edit. Why? PNiddy Go! 0 03:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
In addition to pirated games, I noticed that this article makes no mention whatsoever of Wii modchips or anything, or even acknowledge the fact that piracy/homebrewing DOES exist on the Wii. Shouldnt this be mentioned even briefly, just to make the article a Wii bit more comprehensive? Plus the fact that the current firmware update seems to brick 9 out of 10 modded consoles. Nintenboy01 01:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
We should have a part - somewhere either in reception or sales - discussing the astonishing sales figures for the UK. Japan it is a given to have huge sales, but in the UK it is somthing else entirely. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.159.156.234 ( talk) 16:36, August 21, 2007 (UTC)
Has there been any statement about increasing storage space or possible hard drive for the Wii? 71.103.79.231 08:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
[9] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.120.159.176 ( talk) 00:04, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
The Wii is already ahead of the Xbox360 in console sales. However, it says that it is currently behind. The Wii caught up about two weeks ago. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.103.60.224 ( talk) 01:16, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
Just to make this clear, VGChartz doesn't poll retailers. They use functions and such that they've created themselves by looking at past sales data and basically guess until NPD puts out their sales information, at which point they update their numbers with the real ones. That only applies to North America and Japan though - the organizations who track numbers for most countries in Europe almost never release specific numbers, so their numbers for that entire region are literally complete and total guesses. Rabish12 19:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I recently cited the vgchartz console sales records, however I states it was inaccurate. Moments later, it's reverted. What's up with this? I never said anything inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MilesM11 ( talk • contribs) 19:14, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. I think it would be interesting if information from these two websites, regarding the development and history of the Wii Remote, could be included in either the Wii (within the "History" sub-section) or Wii Remote articles. I am specifically interested in the following two excerpts.
From the first link, regarding Factor 5 being shown a motion-sensing controller for the Nintendo GameCube:
"'When we were doing Star Wars: Rogue Leader for the Nintendo GameCube actually, we had an early prototype of that controller, and that had motion control,' he said. 'So we thought for our style of gameplay - especially when it comes to flight - about motion control for a long time, so we were kind of anticipating it, and I was always keeping it in the back of my head.'"
From the second link, regarding development of a motion-sensing controller for Nintendo in 2001:
"Here's the back story: Gyration is a company that holds most of the best motion-sensing patents. Nintendo licensed a number of those patents from Gyration in 2001, and brought the company on board that year to develop a one-handed controller. (Nintendo even became an investor in Gyration, which is now owned by Thomson.)"
I also remember reading a Mailbox to IGN, a long while ago, which discussed Nintendo showing a "wand-like" peripheral for the Nintendo GameCube behind doors at some E3. Anyway, I wasn't sure if this stuff should be added to the article, in case it's speculation or whatnot. Thoughts? -- Zooba 17:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
So, I'm trying to look up to see if custom soundtracks are available for a game to be released in the future, and I notice that after the release of Excite Truck, Nintendo stated that they got rid of custom soundtracks indefinitely. Excite Truck is apparently the only game with the custom soundtrack ability. My question is, why did Nintendo put the custom soundtrack feature on hold indefinitely? I mean, I'm not saying a game's soundtrack is bad, but I also want to be able to listen to my music while playing (not from separate audio sources). No matter the answer, the article should be updated to say that custom soundtracks aren't supported at the moment, although a reputable source still would need to be located. -- GVOLTT How's my editing?\ My contribs 19:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
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There is a website [1] which specialises in the numerous damages to property caused by the use of the Wii. While comical, does this deserve a mention? Eedo Bee 07:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I also had a problem with my Wii, and I found a pretty good Tech Support site for Consumer Electronics that have a section for the Wii Console I believe it will be a good idea to add it to the external links. I have no permission to edit this thread so I would appreciate if someone will add it for me. Here is the page for the Wii Technical Support & Troubleshooting page. Let me know what you think. JerryGold 11:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Pardon me for asking but why did not anyone write on the Wii article a warning that you do not actually need to buy an SD card to save your gamesaves on Wii. The salesperson assures me that I need an SD card because It is the equivalent of Nintendo GameCube memory cards (for Wii). But it turns out that I wasted my money buying it as I can perfectly save my gavesaves without the SD card. 220.239.112.241 07:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
The article already says that the Wii has built in memory for game saves.
Where? Where in the article does it says that?
I put it to you that the article DOES NOT SAY THAT.
Come on, type the section where it says that, in black and white for me.
220.239.112.241 17:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
"Storage:
-- Maxa megalon 2000 02:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The following references are invalid:
This is not a good reflection of a featured article, and is just the first two links that I checked. I highly expect there are others. Bilge [ T C 22:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
If game titles are supposed to be written in italics, shouldn't channel names like the "Everybody Votes Channel" and "Internet Channel" be italicized too? It's not like they are menu features like the the "Message Board" or "Address Book"-- they're their own separate channels. After all, "Wii channels" are all just software applications. Since "Internet Channel" is merely the web browsing software's title, shouldn't it be italicized the same way as a Virtual Console game's title would? -- 24.154.105.181 15:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
This article now has more revisions than the Adolf Hitler page, so (on top of being a featured article) I'd just like to congratulate you all and keep up the good work ^_^ At this pace the Wii article will have more revisions than the Jesus page! JayKeaton 17:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
It says the storage is expandable via an SD card (up to 2 GB). Is this a hardware limitation or is this simply because the Wii-branded SD cards max out at 2 GB? Third party SD cards work in the Wii just as well as the branded ones, so if there is no hardware limitation, theoretically you could pop a 4GB+ card in and it should still work. Does anyone know where to verify this info so it can be appropriately updated? Danny 22:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The article states that up to four Remotes can be connected, but it doesn't have any details on Remotes being synced to the console. Say your friend has four Remotes and you bring yours over to transfer Miis or something, can you sync a fifth Remote but just have four connected at any one time? Unless I missed it, this doesn't seem to be addressed in the article. Danny 22:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone has placed a tag for possible merge with this article (without starting a discussion themselves). What do people say to a merger?
Oppose Wii Remote has it's own article. It makes most common sense that Wii Balance Board has it's own, as it is a controller for the Wii in it's own right compared to the Wii Remote. LN3000 23:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
So far, it's only been reported by Kotaku, which isn't generally the most reliable of sources (especially when it comes to reporting anonymous, insider, or second-hand information), but I can't imagine misreporting a quotation from a direct interview. Thoughts? Dancter 01:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
"Nintendo states that its console targets a broader demographic than that of Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Sony's PlayStation 3,[4] but it competes with both as part of the seventh generation of gaming systems."
I have no problem with the sentence as a whole; however, using the word "but" implies a negative conotation. Wikipedia is meant to be a well-written, unbias resource when informational. Although it is not a problem to question the status as a seventh generation gaming system due to its lack of graphics, the introduction is not the place to do it. According to Wikipedia, articles are to be "well written, comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral and stable." The definition of "but" is as follows:
1. on the contrary; yet: My brother went, but I did not. 2. except; save: She was so overcome with grief she could do nothing but weep. 3. unless; if not; except that (fol. by a clause, often with that expressed): Nothing would do but that I should come in. 4. without the circumstance that: It never rains but it pours. 5. otherwise than: There is no hope but by prayer. 6. that (used esp. after doubt, deny, etc., with a negative): I don't doubt but he will do it. 7. who not; that not: No leaders worthy of the name ever existed but they were optimists. 8. (used as an intensifier to introduce an exclamatory expression): But she's beautiful! 9. Informal. than: It no sooner started raining but it stopped.
I have italicized the only definition that can possibly fit the definition of "but" in this instance. There is no need for it to be defined as "on the contrary" because contrary is defined as "opposite in nature and character." In which case, the sentence does not make sense at all because the first half does NOT deserving of being a seventh generation of gaming system, instead it simply states that it targets a "broader demographic." As such, the sentence deserves the word "and" which is defined as follows:
1. (used to connect grammatically coordinate words, phrases, or clauses) along or together with; as well as; in addition to; besides; also; moreover: pens and pencils. 2. added to; plus: 2 and 2 are 4. 3. then: He read for an hour and went to bed. 4. also, at the same time: to sleep and dream. 5. then again; repeatedly: He coughed and coughed. 6. (used to imply different qualities in things having the same name): There are bargains and bargains, so watch out. 7. (used to introduce a sentence, implying continuation) also; then: And then it happened. 8. Informal. to (used between two finite verbs): Try and do it. Call and see if she's home yet. 9. (used to introduce a consequence or conditional result): He felt sick and decided to lie down for a while. Say one more word about it and I'll scream. 10. but; on the contrary: He tried to run five miles and couldn't. They said they were about to leave and then stayed for two more hours. 11. (used to connect alternatives): He felt that he was being forced to choose between his career and his family. 12. (used to introduce a comment on the preceding clause): They don't like each other—and with good reason. 13. Archaic. if: and you please. Compare an2. –noun 14. an added condition, stipulation, detail, or particular: He accepted the job, no ands or buts about it.
I have italicized the definition in which "and" is filling in this instance. In my honest opinion, the two sentences don't deserve to be linked at all, instead they deserve to become seperate sentences entirely since the two points made are unrelated; however, in the interest of maintaining the sentence as close to its original form as possible "and" is the proper term to use in the sentence.
As such the sentence should read as follows: "Nintendo states that its console targets a broader demographic than that of Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Sony's PlayStation 3,[4] and it competes with both as part of the seventh generation of gaming systems." Cadwal 04:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Regarding this revert, I want to point two things:
Therefore, I believe the given reference is well placed. -- ReyBrujo 05:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
The estimate on the Wii article is inaccurate - according to Nintendo.
There own financial results: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2007/070426.pdf
These two articles, published today, are reporting on the Nintendo financials (PDF) posted above. No amount of popular estimating by Media Create, Chart Trak, Famitsu and NPD can possibly be accurate if it is greater than the number Nintendo themselves say they have shipped. 136.2.1.153 12:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
The locked article, maintained by rosy-eyed-agenda-driven fans, needs to be changed ASAP. 136.2.1.153 12:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/26/business/AS-FIN-EARNS-Japan-Nintendo.php "Nintendo said it sold 5.84 million Wii machines worldwide in the five months since its release"
"5.84 million of its new Wii(TM) home video game systems globally" http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/nintendo_cleans_up_in_its_fiscal_year_results.html
136.2.1.153 12:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
This section is clearly inaccurate, what is the holdup? Do the maintainers of this article have an agenda? Why is the update taking so long? 136.2.1.153 14:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Since we see only glowing content about the markets' reception of the console Perhaps mention of Nintendo's failure to meet its own Q1 2007 Target may be in order to provide some resonable semblance of objectivity?
"The company shipped 5.84 million Wii consoles since its introduction, just shy of Nintendo's latest target of 6 million."[ [4]] 136.2.1.153 17:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Whoever added it, what is your dispute with the SOURCED and ACCURATE sales numbers? The sources are accurate and reliable. Japan numbers come from Media Create, North America comes from NPD reports. Australia and New Zealand is also reliable. The only one that might be a problem is Europe, but a Nintendo exec gave the 2 million estimate. The numbers are up to date. So what is the problem? TJ Spyke 22:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
136.1.1.154 13:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
According to this article the has sold 5.84 million worldwide not the 6.80 million on this wiki page
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/26994/Nintendo-hardware-sales-revealed —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neocarrillo ( talk • contribs) 14:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC).
Does anyone think that if Nintendo manufactured Wiis faster, than the sales amount would surpass the Xbox 360? And if so, is it worth mentioning in the article?-- Gundor Twintle Fluffy 12:27, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
8.8 million i remember that thing sold like 10 million O:!or am i wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitamaru ( talk • contribs)
In the E3 preview show on G4, didn't they say that the Wii outsold both systems: the PS3 4 to 1 and the 360 2 to 1 or something like that? FrogTape 20:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm modifying the global number to 8.2 million+, there is no basis on the 10 million+ units in the Forbe article, hopefully Nintendo will release it's quarterly report some time later this month, before this no one should change the value unless there are solid number being referenced. Kenimaru 08:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
To Frogtape:Yes, during the Microsoft Media Event shown on G4, Peter Moore showed the sales chat for the three systems. The Wii was shown selling 100,000 more units worldwide than the 360. I really don't think Microsoft would lie to make Nintendo look better! Marioman49 19:34, July 14 2007 (UTC)
Why does it say the total is 8.2 million? I just added up the sourced numbers, and they add up to 8,183,601 (so 8.18 million should be listed). Chuck Quizmo 21:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
The comment about being behind 360 should be removed based on units sold, because we don't have an exact number for 360s sold World wide, but only the total number shipped. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.133.139.5 ( talk • contribs).
The Wii has just surpassed the Xbox 360 in sales, and updated sales figures are available on not only the Wii but the PS3 and Xbox 360. http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=508 . 22 August 2007 Erickurth 01:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised there is no mention of any therapeutic or health benefits. There's Wii Fit (and the balance board), but also, the Wii is being used in therapy sessions in North Carolina ( [6]). Supposedly the first hospital to use the Wii was the Glenrose Rehabilitation Hospital in Edmonton, Alberta Canada. I think we should mention it, yeah? 70.104.16.81 03:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Should we add a section about how some developers and Gamers suspect the wii to be a fad? If you allow me I'll do it myself. I already have official sources. Starwarsrulez 02:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Well actually Insomniac states that what they wrote was not authorized or endorsed by Sony. They also say that they are a completely 100% independant studio. They haven't been bought out by Sony or signed a contract with them. They could immediately turn over and develop for Nintedo or MS but I won't add anything.In the article they also disagree with some things Sony has done and complement Nintendo and Microsoft sometimes. There are still the gaming sites as well. Has it been noted that the failure rate for the Wii is less than one percent. It might be zero but I'm not sure. I'll give you the link if you want. Starwarsrulez 04:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Are there any confirmation about the Wii Elite rumor? I spotted it at a blog. Note that I haven't done any research on this. -- ReCover 10:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
That is so fake. First of all like he said Nintendo Wi-Fi is free. Second of all Nintendo wouldn't make the Wii Remote that ugly. Third he says the Wii is getting StarCraft 2, then why did Blizzard said they had no plans to release it on any console because it was to fast paced for consoles. I don't think we should post anything like this until Nintendo actually confirms something. Starwarsrulez 15:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
I dunno, but it seems that the lead section is a bit sparse, especially for a featured article. Is there really that little to say in the lead? Another concern is that it is possible in the future that print versions of Wikipedia would only include the lead section and so the lead must provide a complete summary of the rest of the article. Axem Titanium 19:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
cold soneone add this link to the article. I would do it, but my wireless cnncetion doesnt let me stay logged in. The Placebo Effect 69.19.14.43 03:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
The electronics store Fravega, is going to sell the Wii since the 10th of August 2007, without authorization from Nintendo. While this isn't an official release, this is quite common in Argentina as the PS3 is sold without authorization from Sony in Carrefour supermarkets and several stores sell next-gen consoles. Do I add this to the article? Note: it's legal to sell consoles without them being officially released, at least in Argentina. Sony claims this to be otherwise, but no one has said anything yet. Proof: http://ar.geocities.com/roberto_carrazzoni/img002.jpg -- I Am Magnus talk 23:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it not HD, or can a HD version be made?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ajuk ( talk • contribs).
As reported, the United Kingdom suffered a large shortage of console units as many high-street and online stores were unable to fulfill all preorders when it was released on December 8, 2006.[20] As of March 2007, some UK stores still had a shortage of consoles,[21]and as of June 2007, demand still outpaced supply in US.
Is there a good reason for the UK shortage at launching time to be mentioned specifically? As I perceive it, it was more of a worldwide issue, so mentioning the problem in UK only could be misleading. I know here in Spain demand largely exceded offer, at least during the first months. I'm not changing it for a while, to let people make a point, if there is one to be made. Otherwise, I'll remove the paragraph that talks about it. Juanmejgom 23:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Uh, I noticed that it has been changed to say "The Wii" when I thought it was just supposed to say "Wii". It also says to join the discussion here, but it has been archived so I'd like to start a new discussion about it if you all don't mind. I believe it should read "Wii" as opposed to "The Wii", because the article is simply called Wii and "The Wii" sounds too personalised, while the lack of "The" sounds more encyclopedic. That's my reasons anyway. .:Alex:. 18:12, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please update the Wii Menu picture to reflect the new update (Clock, etc)? Thanks! LN3000 07:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Just like other consoles such as the XBOX 360, the Wii sells out extremely quickly. Should this be mentioned? 67.188.172.165 21:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Sadly, in Asia and other parts of the world pirated Wii games are now very common, and many people have had their consoles modded to play fake games. They are even selling Nintendo GameCube game compilation discs marked as Wii titles! Should we mention this in the article? Nintenboy01 22:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
I just Google searched "Wiimote" and there are results. And when I edit the "Wii Remote" section, I put "also known as the "Wiimote", but someone reverted my edit. Why? PNiddy Go! 0 03:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
In addition to pirated games, I noticed that this article makes no mention whatsoever of Wii modchips or anything, or even acknowledge the fact that piracy/homebrewing DOES exist on the Wii. Shouldnt this be mentioned even briefly, just to make the article a Wii bit more comprehensive? Plus the fact that the current firmware update seems to brick 9 out of 10 modded consoles. Nintenboy01 01:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
We should have a part - somewhere either in reception or sales - discussing the astonishing sales figures for the UK. Japan it is a given to have huge sales, but in the UK it is somthing else entirely. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.159.156.234 ( talk) 16:36, August 21, 2007 (UTC)
Has there been any statement about increasing storage space or possible hard drive for the Wii? 71.103.79.231 08:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
[9] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.120.159.176 ( talk) 00:04, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
The Wii is already ahead of the Xbox360 in console sales. However, it says that it is currently behind. The Wii caught up about two weeks ago. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.103.60.224 ( talk) 01:16, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
Just to make this clear, VGChartz doesn't poll retailers. They use functions and such that they've created themselves by looking at past sales data and basically guess until NPD puts out their sales information, at which point they update their numbers with the real ones. That only applies to North America and Japan though - the organizations who track numbers for most countries in Europe almost never release specific numbers, so their numbers for that entire region are literally complete and total guesses. Rabish12 19:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I recently cited the vgchartz console sales records, however I states it was inaccurate. Moments later, it's reverted. What's up with this? I never said anything inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MilesM11 ( talk • contribs) 19:14, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. I think it would be interesting if information from these two websites, regarding the development and history of the Wii Remote, could be included in either the Wii (within the "History" sub-section) or Wii Remote articles. I am specifically interested in the following two excerpts.
From the first link, regarding Factor 5 being shown a motion-sensing controller for the Nintendo GameCube:
"'When we were doing Star Wars: Rogue Leader for the Nintendo GameCube actually, we had an early prototype of that controller, and that had motion control,' he said. 'So we thought for our style of gameplay - especially when it comes to flight - about motion control for a long time, so we were kind of anticipating it, and I was always keeping it in the back of my head.'"
From the second link, regarding development of a motion-sensing controller for Nintendo in 2001:
"Here's the back story: Gyration is a company that holds most of the best motion-sensing patents. Nintendo licensed a number of those patents from Gyration in 2001, and brought the company on board that year to develop a one-handed controller. (Nintendo even became an investor in Gyration, which is now owned by Thomson.)"
I also remember reading a Mailbox to IGN, a long while ago, which discussed Nintendo showing a "wand-like" peripheral for the Nintendo GameCube behind doors at some E3. Anyway, I wasn't sure if this stuff should be added to the article, in case it's speculation or whatnot. Thoughts? -- Zooba 17:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
So, I'm trying to look up to see if custom soundtracks are available for a game to be released in the future, and I notice that after the release of Excite Truck, Nintendo stated that they got rid of custom soundtracks indefinitely. Excite Truck is apparently the only game with the custom soundtrack ability. My question is, why did Nintendo put the custom soundtrack feature on hold indefinitely? I mean, I'm not saying a game's soundtrack is bad, but I also want to be able to listen to my music while playing (not from separate audio sources). No matter the answer, the article should be updated to say that custom soundtracks aren't supported at the moment, although a reputable source still would need to be located. -- GVOLTT How's my editing?\ My contribs 19:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
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