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There are some serious issues with this article. First, who calls it the Wichita Massacre? If the name derives from an attributable source, we should cite it. Second, much of the language is overwrought tabloid phrasing, e.g. "saw the horror". The article should be rewritten in encyclopedic tone. If there is horror to be expressed, it should come from sources, e.g. "The Wichita Star called it 'the most horrific crime in Wichita history'", or "Judge Smith told the defendants they were the worst scum he had ever had the pleasure to send to prison" (hypothetical examples). Third, the importance of the incident should be made clear. If it's important because of the Supreme Court case, that should be made clear. If it's important because of media coverage, that should be made clear (in this case, it can't, because media coverage was limited for whatever reason). -- Dhartung | Talk 04:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
One: The references are being numbered (1, 2, 3, 4) in the text of the article, but there are no corresponding numbers in the References section.
Two: The picture of the victims has one victim incorrectly listed as Heather Miller (instead of Muller). Is there any way to correct the text in the photo? ( JosephASpadaro 05:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC))
Were they sentenced to death or life in prison? It's not very clear. Or, were they sentenced to death, and that was appealed, and since then they have been sentenced to life in prison? Have they been executed yet? It's not clear at all. Someone who knows please clarify. Thanks. As of now, it says "they were sentenced to death [...] They were also sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole for 20 years [...] Reginald Carr was sentenced to 47 years in prison for his conviction on other crimes, and Jonathan Carr was sentenced to 41 years on other convictions." What does this mean? - Bluedog423 Talk 17:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
the first thing you see when you come to this page is two BLACK men. this is misleading because it makes people think that ALL blacks commit massacres. pleas fix the page with a better picture that doesnt make people thing black people commit massacres.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.24.236.113 ( talk • contribs)
sorry but stating clearly defined facts of thier race isnt profiling and they are clearly referenced in their news articles so im reverting them back. thanks. infernalpact5 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.49.10 ( talk) 00:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
"Some observers protested that if a similar outrage had been perpetrated against blacks by whites, it would have been assumed to be racist. The question asked of H.G. about whether or not she had previously had sex with a black man suggests race was on his mind." -trutv refrence number 1. @kansasbear if this was the martin luther king article that would be true. but it isnt. clearly refrenced material has a right to be stated. theres no racisim involved just your opinion. and pov isnt allowed here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.49.10 ( talk) 02:22, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I'd concur that Sowell meets Wikipedia criteria as a WP:RS but the other two... talking heads... referenced in the section wouldn't be reliable sources that it was raining even if they were sitting next to an open window. Simonm223 ( talk) 17:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I've made the changes. I've also found some other interesting articles. I've known for some time that white nationalist and supremacist groups have used this case as propaganda. [2]. American Renaissance (magazine) have accused wikipedia of deliberately censoring the race of the victims and perpetrators. [http://www.amren.com/features/200807wikipedia.html] Any thoughts of the inclusion of sources like these? Freikorp ( talk) 11:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
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There are some serious issues with this article. First, who calls it the Wichita Massacre? If the name derives from an attributable source, we should cite it. Second, much of the language is overwrought tabloid phrasing, e.g. "saw the horror". The article should be rewritten in encyclopedic tone. If there is horror to be expressed, it should come from sources, e.g. "The Wichita Star called it 'the most horrific crime in Wichita history'", or "Judge Smith told the defendants they were the worst scum he had ever had the pleasure to send to prison" (hypothetical examples). Third, the importance of the incident should be made clear. If it's important because of the Supreme Court case, that should be made clear. If it's important because of media coverage, that should be made clear (in this case, it can't, because media coverage was limited for whatever reason). -- Dhartung | Talk 04:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
One: The references are being numbered (1, 2, 3, 4) in the text of the article, but there are no corresponding numbers in the References section.
Two: The picture of the victims has one victim incorrectly listed as Heather Miller (instead of Muller). Is there any way to correct the text in the photo? ( JosephASpadaro 05:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC))
Were they sentenced to death or life in prison? It's not very clear. Or, were they sentenced to death, and that was appealed, and since then they have been sentenced to life in prison? Have they been executed yet? It's not clear at all. Someone who knows please clarify. Thanks. As of now, it says "they were sentenced to death [...] They were also sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole for 20 years [...] Reginald Carr was sentenced to 47 years in prison for his conviction on other crimes, and Jonathan Carr was sentenced to 41 years on other convictions." What does this mean? - Bluedog423 Talk 17:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
the first thing you see when you come to this page is two BLACK men. this is misleading because it makes people think that ALL blacks commit massacres. pleas fix the page with a better picture that doesnt make people thing black people commit massacres.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.24.236.113 ( talk • contribs)
sorry but stating clearly defined facts of thier race isnt profiling and they are clearly referenced in their news articles so im reverting them back. thanks. infernalpact5 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.49.10 ( talk) 00:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
"Some observers protested that if a similar outrage had been perpetrated against blacks by whites, it would have been assumed to be racist. The question asked of H.G. about whether or not she had previously had sex with a black man suggests race was on his mind." -trutv refrence number 1. @kansasbear if this was the martin luther king article that would be true. but it isnt. clearly refrenced material has a right to be stated. theres no racisim involved just your opinion. and pov isnt allowed here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.49.10 ( talk) 02:22, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I'd concur that Sowell meets Wikipedia criteria as a WP:RS but the other two... talking heads... referenced in the section wouldn't be reliable sources that it was raining even if they were sitting next to an open window. Simonm223 ( talk) 17:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I've made the changes. I've also found some other interesting articles. I've known for some time that white nationalist and supremacist groups have used this case as propaganda. [2]. American Renaissance (magazine) have accused wikipedia of deliberately censoring the race of the victims and perpetrators. [http://www.amren.com/features/200807wikipedia.html] Any thoughts of the inclusion of sources like these? Freikorp ( talk) 11:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)