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"White guard" or "white army" was a general term for royalist and just non-communist forces during the civil war started in 1917. In very broad terms, there were 3 camps: red, white and green. Red were communists, white were "capitalists" (both royalists and republicans) and less regular forces of "green" anarchists/bandits/peasants. (The most notable "green" was Makhno at Ukraine; he blocked with Reds and was killed by them later.) White camp was split in different ways, esp. along political and national lines (e.g. White Russians trying to recover the empire were natural enemies to Mannerheim and Pilsudsky). So, it is much better to use some more specific term for Finish White Guard.
Victor S. Grishchenko, 7 Jul 2005 — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
217.119.81.58 (
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I think much of this article could be moved to the article on the Civil War. As it now stands, it's almost like the White version of the history of the War of Liberation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.116.222.218 ( talk) 19:20, 7 July 2003 (UTC)
So of the many many transl., which one is the true literal and non-metaphorical translation? -- Menchi 12:54 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)
With User:Graculus around, it might be good to remember that the opinion in Finland can not be painted in black-or-white:
-- Ruhrjung 19:41, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)
The White Guards is one translation of the Finnish term Suojeluskunta..
The text now reads "both sides attempted to secure the railway to St. Petersburg." Which railway was this: the Riihimäki-Saint Petersburg railroad or the Saint Petersburg–Hiitola railroad? -- Petri Krohn 23:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
The presence of this image seems misleading since it appears in the top right which is usually the place for "title" images. That would be OK if there was no available picture of the article's subject, but there is. The actual image of Finnish white guards, which is further down in the page, should be the first image on the page. The famous photo of the anarchist sailors could be used further down to add to the historical background of the article. Ahuitzotl ( talk) 00:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
The Whites ( fi:Valkoiset) were formed as opposing side to Red Guards (Finland) in the civil war. Besides the Civil Guard Organization ( fi:Suojeluskunta), the whites were also formed by recruited soldiers and draftees. And therefore these two names don't mean the same. As this article is mostly about the Civil Guard ( a term used by a potent museum of the theme btw) therefore is the reason for my move and some edits. Kyz2 ( talk) 14:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hi!
"White guard" or "white army" was a general term for royalist and just non-communist forces during the civil war started in 1917. In very broad terms, there were 3 camps: red, white and green. Red were communists, white were "capitalists" (both royalists and republicans) and less regular forces of "green" anarchists/bandits/peasants. (The most notable "green" was Makhno at Ukraine; he blocked with Reds and was killed by them later.) White camp was split in different ways, esp. along political and national lines (e.g. White Russians trying to recover the empire were natural enemies to Mannerheim and Pilsudsky). So, it is much better to use some more specific term for Finish White Guard.
Victor S. Grishchenko, 7 Jul 2005 — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
217.119.81.58 (
talk) 12:09, 7 July 2005 (UTC)
I think much of this article could be moved to the article on the Civil War. As it now stands, it's almost like the White version of the history of the War of Liberation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.116.222.218 ( talk) 19:20, 7 July 2003 (UTC)
So of the many many transl., which one is the true literal and non-metaphorical translation? -- Menchi 12:54 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)
With User:Graculus around, it might be good to remember that the opinion in Finland can not be painted in black-or-white:
-- Ruhrjung 19:41, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)
The White Guards is one translation of the Finnish term Suojeluskunta..
The text now reads "both sides attempted to secure the railway to St. Petersburg." Which railway was this: the Riihimäki-Saint Petersburg railroad or the Saint Petersburg–Hiitola railroad? -- Petri Krohn 23:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
The presence of this image seems misleading since it appears in the top right which is usually the place for "title" images. That would be OK if there was no available picture of the article's subject, but there is. The actual image of Finnish white guards, which is further down in the page, should be the first image on the page. The famous photo of the anarchist sailors could be used further down to add to the historical background of the article. Ahuitzotl ( talk) 00:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
The Whites ( fi:Valkoiset) were formed as opposing side to Red Guards (Finland) in the civil war. Besides the Civil Guard Organization ( fi:Suojeluskunta), the whites were also formed by recruited soldiers and draftees. And therefore these two names don't mean the same. As this article is mostly about the Civil Guard ( a term used by a potent museum of the theme btw) therefore is the reason for my move and some edits. Kyz2 ( talk) 14:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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