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I have recently found the bing crosby merry christmas album set it is on decca i only have 4 sides i am missing the other 4 sides itis a 4 album set I was wandering ifit might be worth something to anyone it is in very good shape aside from not being complete if you could help me find out if it is worthless or not
best-selling single Rich Farmbrough 15:12, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
White Christmas (snow) reads a little strangely. To disambiguate, maybe something like White Christmas (event) or White Christmas (phenomenon) would be better? - Runningonbrains 19:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
As Hateless keeps removing the worldwide perspective tag, and I don't want to start an edit war, I'll start discussion here.
This article does not represent a worldwide view. It mentions details and statistics for North America, and gives a little generic details about places in Europe, but makes no mention of anywhere else. What are the chances in Russia? Is it an important tradition there? What about the Southern Hemisphere? I know it's summer there, but this should be mentioned in the article for people who aren't as astute. And where are the references? I'm going to add a tag, as there are none in the first (and only important) paragraph. Sorry if I sound confrontational, I don't mean to be, just want to help make a better article. - Runningonbrains 21:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
White Christmases have been known to occur on a smaller scale in the souther hemisphere. Hobart in 2000 had a White Christmas, I remember.
I hate how these Christmas articles have an American bias. It's as if Amercians don't think anyone exists outside their own country. Katana Geldar 01:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Then add more information! As a first-generation American, I understand that Americans are often somewhat dismissive of the rest of the world. But you aren't going to get anywhere by asking us to write about something which we don't know much about (i.e., Christmas in the rest of the world.) Please help remove the bias by adding your own information. 128.36.158.58 ( talk) 15:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The Irish definition is listed, but not the British, which is that snow has to fall on the MET Office roof http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/578168.stm Jddriessen ( talk) 15:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The article states that Los Angeles and San Francisco have a 1% probability of experiencing a White Christmas. When did those two cities experience a White Christmas? The Los Angeles downtown area has never recorded a snowfall of an inch or more. San Francisco has six snowstorms in its recorded history, and none of them were on Christmas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpinzow ( talk • contribs) 18:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC) Actually it did snow in san francisco on christmas in the 1800's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.130.9 ( talk) 22:11, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I removed the image from this article because it does not represent a white christmas - it simply showed a house in the snow. From the image description it was photographed on the 9th December so was not even taken at christmas. But apart from this technicality the image has nothing else to suggest it is a christmas scene. It is just a house in the snow. Feel free to replace the image with one taken at christmas and which includes some imagery that actually suggests it's actually christmas but please don't restore that particular image as it is not suitable. Polyamorph ( talk) 18:32, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone recently changed the discussion of 2004 being Ireland's most recent white Christmas to the current text, which claims that 2010 was a white Christmas (from previous snowfall) but then cites a source from 2006. It's unclear to me whether or not snow on the ground - not falling - qualifies as a white Christmas in Ireland. If so, maybe someone can find a better source? It's good to be topical but we should be accurate. If not, maybe we should just change it back to 2004? AgnosticAphid talk 19:19, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Did the concept of a "White Christmas" exist prior to Irving Berlin, or did his song make this an important concept? Wschart ( talk) 18:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved 'White Christmas' to White Christmas (weather) and move the disambiguation page to White Christmas. ~ Amatulić ( talk) 20:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
– A quick check of the incoming links to White Christmas, currently about the weather phenomenon, shows that very few incoming links are actually referring to a weather thing. Pages such as Christmas music, Dave Koz, The Little Drummer Boy, A Jolly Christmas from Frank Sinatra, The Polar Express (soundtrack), Bing Crosby: The Voice of Christmas to name a few — all of these pages link to White Christmas when they should be linking to White Christmas (song). I could only find maybe 3 or 4 pages that correctly link to White Christmas in reference to the weather term.
Furthermore, the page view stats for Juneshow 7524 hits for White Christmas (song) in June, vs. 3188 for White Christmas. Even during the Christmas months, the song got 127,058 hits in December 2011, vs 44331 for the weather event.
So between the page view statistics and the huge number of inbound links that should be pointing to
White Christmas (song) but currently point to
White Christmas instead, I think it's clear that the song is the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and the thing that most people are looking for when they type in "White Christmas". I don't have a suggestion as to what
White Christmas should be moved to, though — "Snow at Christmas"? "White Christmas (weather)"? --Relisted
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White Christmas should be a disambiguation page.
White Christmas (weather)
and White Christmas (term)
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While understandable from a visual perspective, flattening those tables has broken the sorting. Unless there is an argument to be made that sorting isn't important, the flattening should probably be undone.
Is there an alternate solution that puts the long tables adjacent to each other?
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 14:44, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
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I appreciate your hard work but this data is certainly corrupt. it may be only a little corrupt, but with no direct way to verify it, im suspicious of the whole set. when i get a hcance i'll get back to this and pore through the history to try to track down the original source. if the original source claims that Concord NH has only 23% , I will say that I dont believe that source and we should look for something better. — Soap — 20:31, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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White_Christmas_(weather)#Tables_for_North_America is almost certainly corrupt. how could Concord NH have only a 23% chance when nearby Portland Maine has 83% ? If we have no way to verify the data, the whole chart is unreliable. i notice one wrong value but Im skeptical of all of the rest. the low number for Concord NH has apparenrtly been in the article for at least 4 yrs. — Soap — 20:29, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
The number 23 occurs suspiciously often in the data set as a whole. — Soap — 16:50, 26 September 2018 (UTC) It seems the data was altered several times in 2011 in edits such as this and this. We accepted these edits, so I would say the table today is no longer attached to the (now deleted) data source from 2008. I dont want to have to revert to the 2008 data and use a dead link as the source, so I will look for something else, but as of right now I say that we are better off without the table than with it. — Soap — 16:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
I deleted all of the data, since nobody replied. The map is still there and provides a clearer way to visualize the data and has no errors. — Soap — 19:09, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Minor point - in some paragaphs we have "X in (y cm)" and in some it's "Y cm (X in)". What is the convention showing metric and imperial equivalents ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.134.71.108 ( talk) 09:32, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
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I have recently found the bing crosby merry christmas album set it is on decca i only have 4 sides i am missing the other 4 sides itis a 4 album set I was wandering ifit might be worth something to anyone it is in very good shape aside from not being complete if you could help me find out if it is worthless or not
best-selling single Rich Farmbrough 15:12, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
White Christmas (snow) reads a little strangely. To disambiguate, maybe something like White Christmas (event) or White Christmas (phenomenon) would be better? - Runningonbrains 19:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
As Hateless keeps removing the worldwide perspective tag, and I don't want to start an edit war, I'll start discussion here.
This article does not represent a worldwide view. It mentions details and statistics for North America, and gives a little generic details about places in Europe, but makes no mention of anywhere else. What are the chances in Russia? Is it an important tradition there? What about the Southern Hemisphere? I know it's summer there, but this should be mentioned in the article for people who aren't as astute. And where are the references? I'm going to add a tag, as there are none in the first (and only important) paragraph. Sorry if I sound confrontational, I don't mean to be, just want to help make a better article. - Runningonbrains 21:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
White Christmases have been known to occur on a smaller scale in the souther hemisphere. Hobart in 2000 had a White Christmas, I remember.
I hate how these Christmas articles have an American bias. It's as if Amercians don't think anyone exists outside their own country. Katana Geldar 01:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Then add more information! As a first-generation American, I understand that Americans are often somewhat dismissive of the rest of the world. But you aren't going to get anywhere by asking us to write about something which we don't know much about (i.e., Christmas in the rest of the world.) Please help remove the bias by adding your own information. 128.36.158.58 ( talk) 15:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The Irish definition is listed, but not the British, which is that snow has to fall on the MET Office roof http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/578168.stm Jddriessen ( talk) 15:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The article states that Los Angeles and San Francisco have a 1% probability of experiencing a White Christmas. When did those two cities experience a White Christmas? The Los Angeles downtown area has never recorded a snowfall of an inch or more. San Francisco has six snowstorms in its recorded history, and none of them were on Christmas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpinzow ( talk • contribs) 18:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC) Actually it did snow in san francisco on christmas in the 1800's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.130.9 ( talk) 22:11, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I removed the image from this article because it does not represent a white christmas - it simply showed a house in the snow. From the image description it was photographed on the 9th December so was not even taken at christmas. But apart from this technicality the image has nothing else to suggest it is a christmas scene. It is just a house in the snow. Feel free to replace the image with one taken at christmas and which includes some imagery that actually suggests it's actually christmas but please don't restore that particular image as it is not suitable. Polyamorph ( talk) 18:32, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone recently changed the discussion of 2004 being Ireland's most recent white Christmas to the current text, which claims that 2010 was a white Christmas (from previous snowfall) but then cites a source from 2006. It's unclear to me whether or not snow on the ground - not falling - qualifies as a white Christmas in Ireland. If so, maybe someone can find a better source? It's good to be topical but we should be accurate. If not, maybe we should just change it back to 2004? AgnosticAphid talk 19:19, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Did the concept of a "White Christmas" exist prior to Irving Berlin, or did his song make this an important concept? Wschart ( talk) 18:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved 'White Christmas' to White Christmas (weather) and move the disambiguation page to White Christmas. ~ Amatulić ( talk) 20:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
– A quick check of the incoming links to White Christmas, currently about the weather phenomenon, shows that very few incoming links are actually referring to a weather thing. Pages such as Christmas music, Dave Koz, The Little Drummer Boy, A Jolly Christmas from Frank Sinatra, The Polar Express (soundtrack), Bing Crosby: The Voice of Christmas to name a few — all of these pages link to White Christmas when they should be linking to White Christmas (song). I could only find maybe 3 or 4 pages that correctly link to White Christmas in reference to the weather term.
Furthermore, the page view stats for Juneshow 7524 hits for White Christmas (song) in June, vs. 3188 for White Christmas. Even during the Christmas months, the song got 127,058 hits in December 2011, vs 44331 for the weather event.
So between the page view statistics and the huge number of inbound links that should be pointing to
White Christmas (song) but currently point to
White Christmas instead, I think it's clear that the song is the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and the thing that most people are looking for when they type in "White Christmas". I don't have a suggestion as to what
White Christmas should be moved to, though — "Snow at Christmas"? "White Christmas (weather)"? --Relisted
JHunterJ (
talk) 12:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC) Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?) 02:46, 4 July 2012 (UTC) Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?)
02:46, 4 July 2012 (UTC) I think that
White Christmas should be a disambiguation page.
White Christmas (weather)
and White Christmas (term)
.--
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While understandable from a visual perspective, flattening those tables has broken the sorting. Unless there is an argument to be made that sorting isn't important, the flattening should probably be undone.
Is there an alternate solution that puts the long tables adjacent to each other?
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 14:44, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
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I appreciate your hard work but this data is certainly corrupt. it may be only a little corrupt, but with no direct way to verify it, im suspicious of the whole set. when i get a hcance i'll get back to this and pore through the history to try to track down the original source. if the original source claims that Concord NH has only 23% , I will say that I dont believe that source and we should look for something better. — Soap — 20:31, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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White_Christmas_(weather)#Tables_for_North_America is almost certainly corrupt. how could Concord NH have only a 23% chance when nearby Portland Maine has 83% ? If we have no way to verify the data, the whole chart is unreliable. i notice one wrong value but Im skeptical of all of the rest. the low number for Concord NH has apparenrtly been in the article for at least 4 yrs. — Soap — 20:29, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
The number 23 occurs suspiciously often in the data set as a whole. — Soap — 16:50, 26 September 2018 (UTC) It seems the data was altered several times in 2011 in edits such as this and this. We accepted these edits, so I would say the table today is no longer attached to the (now deleted) data source from 2008. I dont want to have to revert to the 2008 data and use a dead link as the source, so I will look for something else, but as of right now I say that we are better off without the table than with it. — Soap — 16:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
I deleted all of the data, since nobody replied. The map is still there and provides a clearer way to visualize the data and has no errors. — Soap — 19:09, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Minor point - in some paragaphs we have "X in (y cm)" and in some it's "Y cm (X in)". What is the convention showing metric and imperial equivalents ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.134.71.108 ( talk) 09:32, 9 December 2021 (UTC)