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I have attempted to clarify this article by removing general comments about bird mutations and whether mother birds will reject their babies for human scent and the like, which were sourced to articles that had nothing to do with Whipper. The article still needs improvement. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The article currently states, "Mother birds sometimes reject their young. Whipper's life story started with this sort of tragic rejection. Professional opinion state they are not rejected because of human scent." This is cited to an article which states, "If you find a nestling on the ground, it is best to locate the nest and put the bird back. No one can care for a baby bird like a mother bird can. Don’t worry, birds do not reject a baby if they detect your scent on it." [1] I guess that means that Whipper was not rejected by his mother due to human scent on him, if indeed he did have human scent on him, which has not been ascertained. But this Wikipedia article should try to explain why he was rejected, not just to reject reasons that could not be why he was rejected. Maybe he was rejected by his mother due to his unusual appearance, but it would be helpful to provide a source that states that birds sometimes do reject their young if the young have a mutation causing an unusal appearance.
The article also states, "Bird mutations are well documented. Mutations can raise the price above the normal sale for a given breed." However, there is nothing in this article that says that Whipper was ever offered for sale to anyone, so I don't know what that has to do with him.
Finally, I would suggest a different way of identifying Whipper's species in the introduction. Currently the article begins:
As explained at Wikipedia:Proper names#Biological common names, the specific name of a bird species is to be capitalized, but not a general term. "Budgerigar" is the specific name of Melopsittacus undulatus, whereas "parakeet" refers to several different and unrelated species of parrot. So I do not think we should imply that Parakeet is the standard term for Whipper's species. Furthermore, Budgie is a disambiguation page; it is fine to use the term budgie in the article, but there is no point in linking it when we can link Budgerigar first. That is why I changed the lead to say:
This should help explain some of the edits I made. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:17, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I've done an extensive tidy on this article to address the following;
-- Escape Orbit (Talk) 13:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
There is not even one date or year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.203.92.42 ( talk) 13:12, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
I would assume that Whipper is dead now and has been so for several years now. Unfortunately, feather duster budgies suffer from a harmful mutation and therefore only live for a very short time. However, I cannot find any recent news about this bird. Amadeus1928 ( talk) 00:41, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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I have attempted to clarify this article by removing general comments about bird mutations and whether mother birds will reject their babies for human scent and the like, which were sourced to articles that had nothing to do with Whipper. The article still needs improvement. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The article currently states, "Mother birds sometimes reject their young. Whipper's life story started with this sort of tragic rejection. Professional opinion state they are not rejected because of human scent." This is cited to an article which states, "If you find a nestling on the ground, it is best to locate the nest and put the bird back. No one can care for a baby bird like a mother bird can. Don’t worry, birds do not reject a baby if they detect your scent on it." [1] I guess that means that Whipper was not rejected by his mother due to human scent on him, if indeed he did have human scent on him, which has not been ascertained. But this Wikipedia article should try to explain why he was rejected, not just to reject reasons that could not be why he was rejected. Maybe he was rejected by his mother due to his unusual appearance, but it would be helpful to provide a source that states that birds sometimes do reject their young if the young have a mutation causing an unusal appearance.
The article also states, "Bird mutations are well documented. Mutations can raise the price above the normal sale for a given breed." However, there is nothing in this article that says that Whipper was ever offered for sale to anyone, so I don't know what that has to do with him.
Finally, I would suggest a different way of identifying Whipper's species in the introduction. Currently the article begins:
As explained at Wikipedia:Proper names#Biological common names, the specific name of a bird species is to be capitalized, but not a general term. "Budgerigar" is the specific name of Melopsittacus undulatus, whereas "parakeet" refers to several different and unrelated species of parrot. So I do not think we should imply that Parakeet is the standard term for Whipper's species. Furthermore, Budgie is a disambiguation page; it is fine to use the term budgie in the article, but there is no point in linking it when we can link Budgerigar first. That is why I changed the lead to say:
This should help explain some of the edits I made. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:17, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I've done an extensive tidy on this article to address the following;
-- Escape Orbit (Talk) 13:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
There is not even one date or year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.203.92.42 ( talk) 13:12, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
I would assume that Whipper is dead now and has been so for several years now. Unfortunately, feather duster budgies suffer from a harmful mutation and therefore only live for a very short time. However, I cannot find any recent news about this bird. Amadeus1928 ( talk) 00:41, 8 August 2021 (UTC)