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[2] I made this edit, noticing a spam link replacing in the external section. In reverting, I also removed a series of recent edits listing a bunch of video games using whips as a weapon. That information should belong in an article about video games, but not whips. SchmuckyTheCat 05:13, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
If it mentions TV characters why wouldn't it mention videogames and literature? It's part of the culture aroud whips and Wiktionary is about definitions themselves but Wikipedia is more about the cultural "encycolpedic" stuff... Or am I wrong? Anyway... I recalled that somewhere in this article or a related article it was pointed out how many hits of a whip are enough to kill someone... I wanted to quote that in an argument in a forum on AD&D about the system making common humans to weak against weak weapons (such as whips which are more for damage and pain than for death)but now I can no longer find it... I thought it had been edited off... If anyone knows what happened... Please, add that info back...
I removed the request for expansion, this article is already at least long enough.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 04:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Could anyone please describe the physical principle on which whips' function is based?-- Nemissimo II 18:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Could someone post "How To Tie A Whip Popper"? The "popper" is the part at the end of the whip that causes it to "crack" and I know you can "tie your own" but don't know the technique. Thanks. BocaDr1 17:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
The principle of operation involves in the introduction of an amount of kinetic energy into the butt end of the whip, where it is first stored as in angular motion and resultant angular momentum (Mvr) in those materials. The angular momentum then travels through the reducing mass section of the whip and the transferred angular momentum results in an increase in the velocity of the material to make up for the reduction in the radius of motion, and finally gets to the light end of the whip, where the maximum velocity of motion of the rotating whip material is achieved. This activity results in a lengthwise tensile force occurring within the material of the whip, which may result in a breaking off of the thin end of the fast moving whip material. WFPM ( talk) 00:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The first instance of bullwhip, in the second paragraph of the article, is not linked; is this a mistake, or are first-instances not linked if the article has a sub-section about the word, as is the case with bullwhip and the whip article? -- dinomite 14:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Is this section relevant? Is it grammatically correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.124.84.219 ( talk) 07:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that the whip pictured is an ordinary riding whip. As far as I'm aware the correct term is hunting whip which usually has a stag horn attached to the handle and is used for opening gates etc. The whip also has a lash and thong similar to a stockwhip. Cgoodwin ( talk) 01:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
May be yet another US/UK terminology thing. The whip that is the first photo in the article is a shorter hunt seat style whip that is called a crop in the USA, (inflexible, no lash) and farther down the page a hunt "crop" and a dressage "whip" (flexibility, small lash) are laid side by side for comparison. The horn handle whips you describe as a "hunting whip" are only seen in fox hunting in the US, (and maybe in a few specialty classes in east coast shows where members of a hunt compete in their most formal attire) though I understand they are carried in shows in the UK...? There is a technical name for them in the US, but as I am not up on fox hunting etiquette, I am not sure what it is, however the Dover Saddlery catalog might carry them...? Montanabw (talk) 04:29, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
The practical weapon section could use some smoothing out. It reads like an awkward PSA. I did have two points of info that people can take or leave:
Legitimus ( talk) 02:56, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Any National /Intrenational groups for those interested in the history,culture uses of whips? The article did not bstate! Any whip contests this is serious question1 Thanks!(Dr.Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC 92647) Andreisme ( talk) 23:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I think this section might be better placed in the popular culture section. Most people who think of buggy in the economic context would not really be interested in grades of leather, tanning technique, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.252.212.128 ( talk) 00:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
There is a new class of whips in China which are called qilinbian (麒麟鞭). It is like a snake whip of steel construction except for the fall and the cracker. It is gaining popularity in China with numerous manufacturers and thousands of people practicing. Cheapest ones consists of 3 or more lengths of steel chains of different weight joined end to end. The thicker is wrapped with a leather strap to form the handle. I bought a very elaborately constructed 麒麟鞭 and found it easy to use and to crack. For videos of cracking steel chain forms go to google video and search for 麒麟鞭 . Google video for 沈阳青年公园晨练麒麟鞭 to see people practicing this whip in a park: . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.131.99 ( talk) 17:38, 18 December 2010 (UTC) Here it a picture I took of my Qilin whip. Steel construction. 177cm steel chain (handle and 24 segments) plus 45cm fall plus 18cm cracker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew.ma.canada ( talk • contribs) 03:35, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
It is used as a prop for physical exercise and for martial arts performance. There is no mention of this device in wikipedia. I think it should not be a new article, but may have a place here or under whipcracking. Video of a martial arts performance using the qilinbian - ( http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/19141896-1365149131.html). Attached is the paragraph. Please comment. Thanks.
Qilinbian (麒麟鞭) is a metal whip invented in China in the late 1900's. The 15cm handle is made from a steel chain wrapped with leather. The lash is made of steel rods decreasing in size linked by progressively small steel rings. Lash varies between 150cm and 180cm and is attached to a fall and a cracker. Total weight is 1-2kg. It is used for physical exercise and in performances. Due to its destructive potential the qilinbian can be considered a martial arts weapon. [1].
Corrected the statement implying that whips can inflict 'deep' cuts. This simply isn't so.
Added information about barbed or other cutting whips. From my experience.
Added information about the materials used to add weight to whips. From my experience.,
Corrected the information about wrapping with whips. From my experience.
Separated the subjects in this section into paragraphs. For easier reading.
A.M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambrose M ( talk • contribs) 09:36, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Is there any reason thresher sharks weren't included in this section? They seem like a perfect example for this category. Baeaeggs ( talk) 12:32, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
There should be a section dedicated to the history of the whip. 103.231.84.207 ( talk) 10:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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[2] I made this edit, noticing a spam link replacing in the external section. In reverting, I also removed a series of recent edits listing a bunch of video games using whips as a weapon. That information should belong in an article about video games, but not whips. SchmuckyTheCat 05:13, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
If it mentions TV characters why wouldn't it mention videogames and literature? It's part of the culture aroud whips and Wiktionary is about definitions themselves but Wikipedia is more about the cultural "encycolpedic" stuff... Or am I wrong? Anyway... I recalled that somewhere in this article or a related article it was pointed out how many hits of a whip are enough to kill someone... I wanted to quote that in an argument in a forum on AD&D about the system making common humans to weak against weak weapons (such as whips which are more for damage and pain than for death)but now I can no longer find it... I thought it had been edited off... If anyone knows what happened... Please, add that info back...
I removed the request for expansion, this article is already at least long enough.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 04:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Could anyone please describe the physical principle on which whips' function is based?-- Nemissimo II 18:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Could someone post "How To Tie A Whip Popper"? The "popper" is the part at the end of the whip that causes it to "crack" and I know you can "tie your own" but don't know the technique. Thanks. BocaDr1 17:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
The principle of operation involves in the introduction of an amount of kinetic energy into the butt end of the whip, where it is first stored as in angular motion and resultant angular momentum (Mvr) in those materials. The angular momentum then travels through the reducing mass section of the whip and the transferred angular momentum results in an increase in the velocity of the material to make up for the reduction in the radius of motion, and finally gets to the light end of the whip, where the maximum velocity of motion of the rotating whip material is achieved. This activity results in a lengthwise tensile force occurring within the material of the whip, which may result in a breaking off of the thin end of the fast moving whip material. WFPM ( talk) 00:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The first instance of bullwhip, in the second paragraph of the article, is not linked; is this a mistake, or are first-instances not linked if the article has a sub-section about the word, as is the case with bullwhip and the whip article? -- dinomite 14:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Is this section relevant? Is it grammatically correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.124.84.219 ( talk) 07:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that the whip pictured is an ordinary riding whip. As far as I'm aware the correct term is hunting whip which usually has a stag horn attached to the handle and is used for opening gates etc. The whip also has a lash and thong similar to a stockwhip. Cgoodwin ( talk) 01:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
May be yet another US/UK terminology thing. The whip that is the first photo in the article is a shorter hunt seat style whip that is called a crop in the USA, (inflexible, no lash) and farther down the page a hunt "crop" and a dressage "whip" (flexibility, small lash) are laid side by side for comparison. The horn handle whips you describe as a "hunting whip" are only seen in fox hunting in the US, (and maybe in a few specialty classes in east coast shows where members of a hunt compete in their most formal attire) though I understand they are carried in shows in the UK...? There is a technical name for them in the US, but as I am not up on fox hunting etiquette, I am not sure what it is, however the Dover Saddlery catalog might carry them...? Montanabw (talk) 04:29, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
The practical weapon section could use some smoothing out. It reads like an awkward PSA. I did have two points of info that people can take or leave:
Legitimus ( talk) 02:56, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Any National /Intrenational groups for those interested in the history,culture uses of whips? The article did not bstate! Any whip contests this is serious question1 Thanks!(Dr.Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC 92647) Andreisme ( talk) 23:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I think this section might be better placed in the popular culture section. Most people who think of buggy in the economic context would not really be interested in grades of leather, tanning technique, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.252.212.128 ( talk) 00:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
There is a new class of whips in China which are called qilinbian (麒麟鞭). It is like a snake whip of steel construction except for the fall and the cracker. It is gaining popularity in China with numerous manufacturers and thousands of people practicing. Cheapest ones consists of 3 or more lengths of steel chains of different weight joined end to end. The thicker is wrapped with a leather strap to form the handle. I bought a very elaborately constructed 麒麟鞭 and found it easy to use and to crack. For videos of cracking steel chain forms go to google video and search for 麒麟鞭 . Google video for 沈阳青年公园晨练麒麟鞭 to see people practicing this whip in a park: . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.131.99 ( talk) 17:38, 18 December 2010 (UTC) Here it a picture I took of my Qilin whip. Steel construction. 177cm steel chain (handle and 24 segments) plus 45cm fall plus 18cm cracker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew.ma.canada ( talk • contribs) 03:35, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
It is used as a prop for physical exercise and for martial arts performance. There is no mention of this device in wikipedia. I think it should not be a new article, but may have a place here or under whipcracking. Video of a martial arts performance using the qilinbian - ( http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/19141896-1365149131.html). Attached is the paragraph. Please comment. Thanks.
Qilinbian (麒麟鞭) is a metal whip invented in China in the late 1900's. The 15cm handle is made from a steel chain wrapped with leather. The lash is made of steel rods decreasing in size linked by progressively small steel rings. Lash varies between 150cm and 180cm and is attached to a fall and a cracker. Total weight is 1-2kg. It is used for physical exercise and in performances. Due to its destructive potential the qilinbian can be considered a martial arts weapon. [1].
Corrected the statement implying that whips can inflict 'deep' cuts. This simply isn't so.
Added information about barbed or other cutting whips. From my experience.
Added information about the materials used to add weight to whips. From my experience.,
Corrected the information about wrapping with whips. From my experience.
Separated the subjects in this section into paragraphs. For easier reading.
A.M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambrose M ( talk • contribs) 09:36, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Is there any reason thresher sharks weren't included in this section? They seem like a perfect example for this category. Baeaeggs ( talk) 12:32, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
There should be a section dedicated to the history of the whip. 103.231.84.207 ( talk) 10:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC)