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When I first added material to the “EMD E6” page, I included 90 words about the A1A-A1A wheel arrangement. This was all right for one page, but I wanted to add the same wheel arrangement material to all the EMD E-unit pages, a total of nine pages. Text would be needlessly duplicated. So I moved the A1A-A1A wheel arrangement material to a new page, “AAR wheel arrangment”, and added material for several other wheel arrangements. That way, myself or anyone can internally link to the section within “AAR wheel arrangement” that corresponds to the desired wheel arrangement, and eliminate some text duplication. Rmeier 16:35, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I don't see a point of adding a chapter for "Steam Locomotive Wheel Arrangement" since it is already covered in articles for Whyte notation and UIC Classification. Removed. Z220info 14:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I found the initial article very confusing to read, especially given that to understand anything of the differences between the three main notation systems (AAR, UIC, Whyte) one had to click on each link in turn. So I set to work rephrasing several words and passages, and reordering the run of sentences etc. There were also some inconsistencies in the article - three bullet points at the end of the article contradicted statements in previous paras, causing reader confusion about whether or not Whyte notation is used in the US. So I checked all thoroughly while reworking the whole, so as to give a proper "overview" of the subject. Lastly I tried to find any decent sources - there are loads on the web describing the various steam wheel arrangements, but almost nil about the overall nature of wheel arrangements as a subject, ie. why and how they matter. Finally found one source that defined it reputably as "the distribution of wheels under (etc)", and referenced it accordingly. The article's still not great, but at least it's now a whole lot better to read / easier to understand. Hopefully others will agree. Pete Hobbs ( talk) 01:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
One Omission that I found, is the 4-2-4 which is a C.P. Huntington. Russ The Rail Guy 21:23, 22 December 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Railguyruss ( talk • contribs)
It's nice to know how different notations work and all, but what are the dis-/advantages of different arrangements of leading/driving/trailing wheels to begin with? An ember of hope is sparked in the introduction – quote "Especially in steam days, wheel arrangement was an important attribute …" – but it then fails to explain why it was so important – speed, efficiency, safety? Any or all (or none) of them? What role do more/fewer/taller/smaller/… individual axles and wheels play? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:A62:19B4:D801:DA66:E804:CDFA:63B2 ( talk) 09:01, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
So what happened to the quite useful and enjoyable table of all the different wheel arrangements that used to be featured on the bottom of like most or all locomotive-related pages? We just like ditched that? And this article is what we have left?
To whoever made this article, there are actual images available graphically illustrating every wheel arrangement. You don't need to do the whole "ooOOOo" thing for every single entry.
I can't believe a subject as popular as rail and this is the best we have after ten or fifteen years. Idumea47b ( talk) 18:45, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
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When I first added material to the “EMD E6” page, I included 90 words about the A1A-A1A wheel arrangement. This was all right for one page, but I wanted to add the same wheel arrangement material to all the EMD E-unit pages, a total of nine pages. Text would be needlessly duplicated. So I moved the A1A-A1A wheel arrangement material to a new page, “AAR wheel arrangment”, and added material for several other wheel arrangements. That way, myself or anyone can internally link to the section within “AAR wheel arrangement” that corresponds to the desired wheel arrangement, and eliminate some text duplication. Rmeier 16:35, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I don't see a point of adding a chapter for "Steam Locomotive Wheel Arrangement" since it is already covered in articles for Whyte notation and UIC Classification. Removed. Z220info 14:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I found the initial article very confusing to read, especially given that to understand anything of the differences between the three main notation systems (AAR, UIC, Whyte) one had to click on each link in turn. So I set to work rephrasing several words and passages, and reordering the run of sentences etc. There were also some inconsistencies in the article - three bullet points at the end of the article contradicted statements in previous paras, causing reader confusion about whether or not Whyte notation is used in the US. So I checked all thoroughly while reworking the whole, so as to give a proper "overview" of the subject. Lastly I tried to find any decent sources - there are loads on the web describing the various steam wheel arrangements, but almost nil about the overall nature of wheel arrangements as a subject, ie. why and how they matter. Finally found one source that defined it reputably as "the distribution of wheels under (etc)", and referenced it accordingly. The article's still not great, but at least it's now a whole lot better to read / easier to understand. Hopefully others will agree. Pete Hobbs ( talk) 01:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
One Omission that I found, is the 4-2-4 which is a C.P. Huntington. Russ The Rail Guy 21:23, 22 December 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Railguyruss ( talk • contribs)
It's nice to know how different notations work and all, but what are the dis-/advantages of different arrangements of leading/driving/trailing wheels to begin with? An ember of hope is sparked in the introduction – quote "Especially in steam days, wheel arrangement was an important attribute …" – but it then fails to explain why it was so important – speed, efficiency, safety? Any or all (or none) of them? What role do more/fewer/taller/smaller/… individual axles and wheels play? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:A62:19B4:D801:DA66:E804:CDFA:63B2 ( talk) 09:01, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
So what happened to the quite useful and enjoyable table of all the different wheel arrangements that used to be featured on the bottom of like most or all locomotive-related pages? We just like ditched that? And this article is what we have left?
To whoever made this article, there are actual images available graphically illustrating every wheel arrangement. You don't need to do the whole "ooOOOo" thing for every single entry.
I can't believe a subject as popular as rail and this is the best we have after ten or fifteen years. Idumea47b ( talk) 18:45, 11 September 2023 (UTC)