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Any one here interested in more info about Westlife? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missy Filan ( talk • contribs) 13:23, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
from mongolia here s baagi i am student. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.72.245.131 ( talk) 04:17, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
My Westlife's favourite video is "World Of Our Own"'s first one. I like especially watching them being seduced by two policewomen (Anonymous). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.14.4 ( talk) 11:46, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
I think we should keep the trivia section. The music download chart fact is not very trivial (although trivia is trivial by definition). Perhaps if we're going to get rid of that section we could incorporate it somewhere else? ConDem 13:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I've incorporated all of it in the discography.While you said Radish originally recorded one of their songs, you (A) failed to disambiguate Radish, and (B) failed to mention at least 5 or 6 other Westlife songs originally recorded by someone else. 205.188.117.73 04:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, ok, but actually, that wasn't me. i was just commenting on the edit after reverting a deletion. I think the person who put that fact there was either a Radish fan (whoever they are!) or thought it was significant because it was a rock band. ConDem 13:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I edited this page yesterday with more accurate info, only to find this morning that it had all be erased. Not very nice, i spent ages doing that ;) hope you like the changes, i'll try and add a bit more info in a while, been working on the French version in the meantime. VirginieP 14:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
That's ok, i saw the problem and i'm working on it ;) i'm new to wikipedia editing, that explains why. But the previous version wasn't that objective either, so i'm going to try and stick to the facts! Thank you for your help VirginieP 19:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
This article is in truly bad shape, even by Wikipedia music article standards. Wasted Time R 15:34, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Have attempted a clean up - it says a lot about Wiki that someone who loathes boy bands has put personal feelings aside to do it!! Hope it reads better - I've moved the HTML tags further down to catch a bit more of the inappropriate stuff. doktorb 21:32, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
I though there was a section originally in the article where Mark retracted his statement saying that he is a homosexual, what happened to that section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.215.116.234 ( talk) 14:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of August 20, 2006, compares against the six good article criteria:
When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. Thanks for your work so far. -- Esprit15d 13:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
someone should put pictures in for the albums. (turnaround, allow us to be frank and face to face) it looks a little messy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleskittles ( talk • contribs) 17:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Isn't it notable that there are gay members in the band? I don't know which of them are gay, but there are some gays in there. A magazine here reported that two of the band members got married to each other. I'm sure this is a notable fact. ► Adriaan90 ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) ♪♫ 17:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Surely the 'beautiful arrangements' description in the opening lines is a little subjective for an encyclopedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.42.173.166 ( talk) 18:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC).
I have removed a non-English language website from the External Links section. The link ( Westlife Persian Fans(farsi)) points to a site in farsi, which is not in line with the WP:EL#Foreign-language_links guideline. -- The.Q | Talk to me 11:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I've made citation to every single line that was tagged with source request or similar tags. Please do not alter the numbers or other figure unless you can find a source to prove it.
This article has also been requested for another Good Article review so let's hope for that best! -- Cahk 06:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
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At first it was cool to hear covers, but when they base their career off of covers, it gets really old. Michael Buble?! Come on, guys. Does anyone else feel the same? The alliance 23:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed that there's some vandalism that's appeared on this page. I'm in the process of clearing it up at the moment, just thought I should give it a mention. SunsetFlare 10:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I've been watching this for a long time and I've seen that many fan sites are being added to the external links section... I've just removed them again and added a link to an official site (message boards) Please, people, this is not the way nor the place to advertise your site.
Thanks, Maaz. Figurefour 05:40, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I just removed "Home" from the list of Westlife #1 Singles. As much as I personally think it is a fantastic song, we're getting a bit presumptuous, aren't we? If "Home" does reach #1, only THEN should it be put into the list. The song hasn't even been released on sale yet! SunsetFlare 15:07, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
and could not even match Take That's two week old single "Rule the World", selling just 68,000 units!
This line has been edited by myself. It sounded as though someone (perhaps a Take That fan or a Westlife hater) had put this in just to show us how bad Westlife music is... sorry pal... The line now reads : and Take That's two week old single "Rule the World", selling just 68,000 units
Another such sentence:
Some artists take months, even years to make themselves satisfied with a new record but Westlife spent only weeks in the studio working with producers including Steve Mac, Quiz Larossi, Jorgen Elofsson and Maratone. This may be the reason for the poor performance of the album and its lead single.
The album has only just been released and its chart position isn't yet known, still, somehow, someone managed to get this in.... I'm not much familiar with the Wikipedia guidelines since I'm a bit new to editing and all, but this looks like someone on purpose is trying to degrade this article by placing nonsensical comments... The album chart info isn't out yet, and I do not believe that one will be able to find any source that claims that the album has performed poorly...
Just because you do not like the band doesn't necessarily give you the right to do this...
I'm editing this article and I ask for other users to please keep checking this article coz I can't come online regularly.
Thanks, Maaz.
Figurefour 15:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Following complaints and tags on this article about information coming from nowhere, I've made a major effort to cite everything there is to cite in this article using sources like BBC, various newspapers, TV, Yahoo Music, etc.
Do not alter the sources unless you can find a better one (ie. Youtube videos to something newspaper based, etc) -- Cahk ( talk) 08:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Gerry and the Pacemakers only had three consecutive number ones - and none thereafter. 17:34, 9 December 2005 86.143.206.
"Fastest selling UK act to have top 5 single hits" - what does it mean? First, they're not a UK act; second, the phrase simply doesn't make sense. Doesn't look like a real record to me. 77.102.34.25 ( talk) 23:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, I'll be honest. The article is nowhere near GA standard - and I apologise for being harsh or abrupt. I reviewed a few sections, and then just got sick of it - and I wasn't noting everything I picked up. Here are my notes - they are generally relevant to the whole of the article, so you can work based on them. Leave a note on my talk page if you have any comments or questions. Cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide ( Review) 02:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
— Dihydrogen Monoxide ( Review) 02:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Since I nominated the article and fixed all the citations per GA criteria, I've fixed the problems described above except:
*Second section of "Westlife: Big Break" section needs sources for charting etc.
-- Cahk ( talk) 04:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
To summarize on issues needing to be fixed:
This article is on review Realist2 ( talk) 06:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Im afraid this article fails for the following reasons.
Dont renominate it until that point. Realist2 ( talk) 06:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
This claim: "The band is considered to be the most successful pop group of the 21st century" is far too broad to be presented like this, or probably at all (the century's not even 10% through). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and a citation from East Coast Radio is not extraordinary. Tuf-Kat ( talk) 04:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
GA fails again, its been 6 days and not even these small requests have been completed, even with these done it would have still needed a lot of work. Realist2 ( 'Come Speak To Me') 15:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Please do not include external links to copyrighted material, such as videos clips hosted on the likes of YouTube. Such clips are only acceptable when a company uploads them themselves on an official channel. The JPS talk to me 14:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Curiously enough, this article doesn't have one. 58.167.40.86 ( talk) 04:19, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Chunks of the article appear to be pasted from a tabloid newspaper article, especially further down. I notice there have been problems with "fancruft" before, and it has failed GA assesments three times.
"The lads " "And boy band hunk Nicky Byrne has revealed" "or which ‘You Raise Me Up’ stars are famous. " -- AleXd ( talk) 14:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Good work! -- AleXd ( talk) 14:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
"In 2005, after a four-month break, they came back with "You Raise Me Up", a cover of a Josh Groban song" It's NOT Josh Groban's song!!! Somebody fix it. It's Brian Kennedy, who sang this song for the first time. Correct the mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.30.207.100 ( talk) 17:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC) they did not get their 15th number 1 yet in the UK, they only as of now got to number 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saskie1966 ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
The band was disappointed when they heard of the news as they were planning on bringing that song (Flying Without Wings) to the American audiences in the near future
Yes, but that was 2003 - Westlife originally had the song in 1999 - and had had an American hit since then - what were they waiting for? Or is it that this info is fiction? I see no source for it.-- Tuzapicabit ( talk) 21:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
No information of them trying to have world-wide success and their reception in other countries America Australia etc.--Cooly123 23:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 ( talk • contribs)
This section looks like it was written by a four year old. No references, tenses all over the place and just bad grammar in general. Could do with a clean-up by someone who knows what they are talking about. Dylan ( talk) 04:03, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I agree, their first language can't be English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.132.90 ( talk) 18:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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Some parts of the article may contain original research and should be removed. The most notable is the Artistry section. The Popularity section also needs more reference, as well as US market and Collaboration section. Krystaleen ( talk) 06:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
This article is so bloated, and there's a lot of unsupported claims and fancrufts. It needs streamlining. Krystaleen ( talk) 14:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Oh please. Westlife was, or leave it out. A noun; person, place, THING. It's a band. "Westlife WAS a boy band. The members of Westlife WERE...etc."
Someone used this style with Boyzone too. Makes no logical sense. Blondesareeasy ( talk) 18:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
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Any one here interested in more info about Westlife? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missy Filan ( talk • contribs) 13:23, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
from mongolia here s baagi i am student. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.72.245.131 ( talk) 04:17, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
My Westlife's favourite video is "World Of Our Own"'s first one. I like especially watching them being seduced by two policewomen (Anonymous). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.14.4 ( talk) 11:46, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
I think we should keep the trivia section. The music download chart fact is not very trivial (although trivia is trivial by definition). Perhaps if we're going to get rid of that section we could incorporate it somewhere else? ConDem 13:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I've incorporated all of it in the discography.While you said Radish originally recorded one of their songs, you (A) failed to disambiguate Radish, and (B) failed to mention at least 5 or 6 other Westlife songs originally recorded by someone else. 205.188.117.73 04:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, ok, but actually, that wasn't me. i was just commenting on the edit after reverting a deletion. I think the person who put that fact there was either a Radish fan (whoever they are!) or thought it was significant because it was a rock band. ConDem 13:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I edited this page yesterday with more accurate info, only to find this morning that it had all be erased. Not very nice, i spent ages doing that ;) hope you like the changes, i'll try and add a bit more info in a while, been working on the French version in the meantime. VirginieP 14:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
That's ok, i saw the problem and i'm working on it ;) i'm new to wikipedia editing, that explains why. But the previous version wasn't that objective either, so i'm going to try and stick to the facts! Thank you for your help VirginieP 19:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
This article is in truly bad shape, even by Wikipedia music article standards. Wasted Time R 15:34, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Have attempted a clean up - it says a lot about Wiki that someone who loathes boy bands has put personal feelings aside to do it!! Hope it reads better - I've moved the HTML tags further down to catch a bit more of the inappropriate stuff. doktorb 21:32, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
I though there was a section originally in the article where Mark retracted his statement saying that he is a homosexual, what happened to that section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.215.116.234 ( talk) 14:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of August 20, 2006, compares against the six good article criteria:
When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. Thanks for your work so far. -- Esprit15d 13:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
someone should put pictures in for the albums. (turnaround, allow us to be frank and face to face) it looks a little messy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleskittles ( talk • contribs) 17:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Isn't it notable that there are gay members in the band? I don't know which of them are gay, but there are some gays in there. A magazine here reported that two of the band members got married to each other. I'm sure this is a notable fact. ► Adriaan90 ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) ♪♫ 17:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Surely the 'beautiful arrangements' description in the opening lines is a little subjective for an encyclopedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.42.173.166 ( talk) 18:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC).
I have removed a non-English language website from the External Links section. The link ( Westlife Persian Fans(farsi)) points to a site in farsi, which is not in line with the WP:EL#Foreign-language_links guideline. -- The.Q | Talk to me 11:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I've made citation to every single line that was tagged with source request or similar tags. Please do not alter the numbers or other figure unless you can find a source to prove it.
This article has also been requested for another Good Article review so let's hope for that best! -- Cahk 06:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
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At first it was cool to hear covers, but when they base their career off of covers, it gets really old. Michael Buble?! Come on, guys. Does anyone else feel the same? The alliance 23:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed that there's some vandalism that's appeared on this page. I'm in the process of clearing it up at the moment, just thought I should give it a mention. SunsetFlare 10:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I've been watching this for a long time and I've seen that many fan sites are being added to the external links section... I've just removed them again and added a link to an official site (message boards) Please, people, this is not the way nor the place to advertise your site.
Thanks, Maaz. Figurefour 05:40, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I just removed "Home" from the list of Westlife #1 Singles. As much as I personally think it is a fantastic song, we're getting a bit presumptuous, aren't we? If "Home" does reach #1, only THEN should it be put into the list. The song hasn't even been released on sale yet! SunsetFlare 15:07, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
and could not even match Take That's two week old single "Rule the World", selling just 68,000 units!
This line has been edited by myself. It sounded as though someone (perhaps a Take That fan or a Westlife hater) had put this in just to show us how bad Westlife music is... sorry pal... The line now reads : and Take That's two week old single "Rule the World", selling just 68,000 units
Another such sentence:
Some artists take months, even years to make themselves satisfied with a new record but Westlife spent only weeks in the studio working with producers including Steve Mac, Quiz Larossi, Jorgen Elofsson and Maratone. This may be the reason for the poor performance of the album and its lead single.
The album has only just been released and its chart position isn't yet known, still, somehow, someone managed to get this in.... I'm not much familiar with the Wikipedia guidelines since I'm a bit new to editing and all, but this looks like someone on purpose is trying to degrade this article by placing nonsensical comments... The album chart info isn't out yet, and I do not believe that one will be able to find any source that claims that the album has performed poorly...
Just because you do not like the band doesn't necessarily give you the right to do this...
I'm editing this article and I ask for other users to please keep checking this article coz I can't come online regularly.
Thanks, Maaz.
Figurefour 15:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Following complaints and tags on this article about information coming from nowhere, I've made a major effort to cite everything there is to cite in this article using sources like BBC, various newspapers, TV, Yahoo Music, etc.
Do not alter the sources unless you can find a better one (ie. Youtube videos to something newspaper based, etc) -- Cahk ( talk) 08:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Gerry and the Pacemakers only had three consecutive number ones - and none thereafter. 17:34, 9 December 2005 86.143.206.
"Fastest selling UK act to have top 5 single hits" - what does it mean? First, they're not a UK act; second, the phrase simply doesn't make sense. Doesn't look like a real record to me. 77.102.34.25 ( talk) 23:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, I'll be honest. The article is nowhere near GA standard - and I apologise for being harsh or abrupt. I reviewed a few sections, and then just got sick of it - and I wasn't noting everything I picked up. Here are my notes - they are generally relevant to the whole of the article, so you can work based on them. Leave a note on my talk page if you have any comments or questions. Cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide ( Review) 02:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
— Dihydrogen Monoxide ( Review) 02:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Since I nominated the article and fixed all the citations per GA criteria, I've fixed the problems described above except:
*Second section of "Westlife: Big Break" section needs sources for charting etc.
-- Cahk ( talk) 04:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
To summarize on issues needing to be fixed:
This article is on review Realist2 ( talk) 06:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Im afraid this article fails for the following reasons.
Dont renominate it until that point. Realist2 ( talk) 06:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
This claim: "The band is considered to be the most successful pop group of the 21st century" is far too broad to be presented like this, or probably at all (the century's not even 10% through). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and a citation from East Coast Radio is not extraordinary. Tuf-Kat ( talk) 04:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
GA fails again, its been 6 days and not even these small requests have been completed, even with these done it would have still needed a lot of work. Realist2 ( 'Come Speak To Me') 15:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Please do not include external links to copyrighted material, such as videos clips hosted on the likes of YouTube. Such clips are only acceptable when a company uploads them themselves on an official channel. The JPS talk to me 14:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Curiously enough, this article doesn't have one. 58.167.40.86 ( talk) 04:19, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Chunks of the article appear to be pasted from a tabloid newspaper article, especially further down. I notice there have been problems with "fancruft" before, and it has failed GA assesments three times.
"The lads " "And boy band hunk Nicky Byrne has revealed" "or which ‘You Raise Me Up’ stars are famous. " -- AleXd ( talk) 14:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Good work! -- AleXd ( talk) 14:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
"In 2005, after a four-month break, they came back with "You Raise Me Up", a cover of a Josh Groban song" It's NOT Josh Groban's song!!! Somebody fix it. It's Brian Kennedy, who sang this song for the first time. Correct the mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.30.207.100 ( talk) 17:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC) they did not get their 15th number 1 yet in the UK, they only as of now got to number 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saskie1966 ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
The band was disappointed when they heard of the news as they were planning on bringing that song (Flying Without Wings) to the American audiences in the near future
Yes, but that was 2003 - Westlife originally had the song in 1999 - and had had an American hit since then - what were they waiting for? Or is it that this info is fiction? I see no source for it.-- Tuzapicabit ( talk) 21:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
No information of them trying to have world-wide success and their reception in other countries America Australia etc.--Cooly123 23:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 ( talk • contribs)
This section looks like it was written by a four year old. No references, tenses all over the place and just bad grammar in general. Could do with a clean-up by someone who knows what they are talking about. Dylan ( talk) 04:03, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I agree, their first language can't be English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.132.90 ( talk) 18:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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Some parts of the article may contain original research and should be removed. The most notable is the Artistry section. The Popularity section also needs more reference, as well as US market and Collaboration section. Krystaleen ( talk) 06:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
This article is so bloated, and there's a lot of unsupported claims and fancrufts. It needs streamlining. Krystaleen ( talk) 14:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Oh please. Westlife was, or leave it out. A noun; person, place, THING. It's a band. "Westlife WAS a boy band. The members of Westlife WERE...etc."
Someone used this style with Boyzone too. Makes no logical sense. Blondesareeasy ( talk) 18:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
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