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Our 2nd para of the Design and development section says:
But, looking for a source for this, I came across: this article which says similar things - but not the same things (eg: "The first Scout AH Mk 1 for the Army flew on August 4, 1960"). Hence CN the tag. It doesn't look like something anyone would make up so, hopefully, whoever put it there would be able to add the source. -- Bye for now ( PTT) 14:47, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Re: this edit @ Kyteto: Could you please provide a source for this content? ie: that Gazelles replaced Scouts. Cheers, -- Bye for now ( PTT) 17:15, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
-- Bye for now ( PTT) 20:41, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
-- Bye for now ( PTT) 21:33, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Kyteto: it may well be that "lots of squadrons can be found where the pattern is readily apparent:" but the two examples you give ( No. 663 Squadron AAC and No. 656 Squadron AAC) don't show any such pattern to me. Could you be more specific please, -- Bye for now ( PTT) 21:47, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I think that maybe what we have here is a difference in perspective/viewpoint/interpretation of events. For example if 3 squadrons of mixed Gazelle/Scout become two Gazelle Squadrons and one Lynx squadron then it might appear that (in 2 out of 3 cases) Scouts were replaced by Gazelles. But in the remaining case, from a purely squadron perspective/viewpoint, the Gazelle aircraft would appear to have been replaced by the Lynx. Bearing in mind that the Gazelle and Lynx were part of the same aircraft buy-programme this would be quite bizarre - even by the sometime quirky decision making processes of the UK MoD. Looking at it from a regimental (or an actual role/purpose) perspective/viewpoint it could simply appear that the tank-killing role of the Scout was superceded by the Lynx and the function of an individual squadron was redefined to be (predominantly) either reconnaissance or tank-killing. ie: organisationally, some squadrons had their Scouts replaced Gazelles but (functionally) the Lynx replaced the Scout. Whatever, I still think we should only put into the article what we can verify by reliable sources.-- Bye for now ( PTT) 11:03, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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Our 2nd para of the Design and development section says:
But, looking for a source for this, I came across: this article which says similar things - but not the same things (eg: "The first Scout AH Mk 1 for the Army flew on August 4, 1960"). Hence CN the tag. It doesn't look like something anyone would make up so, hopefully, whoever put it there would be able to add the source. -- Bye for now ( PTT) 14:47, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Re: this edit @ Kyteto: Could you please provide a source for this content? ie: that Gazelles replaced Scouts. Cheers, -- Bye for now ( PTT) 17:15, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
-- Bye for now ( PTT) 20:41, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
-- Bye for now ( PTT) 21:33, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Kyteto: it may well be that "lots of squadrons can be found where the pattern is readily apparent:" but the two examples you give ( No. 663 Squadron AAC and No. 656 Squadron AAC) don't show any such pattern to me. Could you be more specific please, -- Bye for now ( PTT) 21:47, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I think that maybe what we have here is a difference in perspective/viewpoint/interpretation of events. For example if 3 squadrons of mixed Gazelle/Scout become two Gazelle Squadrons and one Lynx squadron then it might appear that (in 2 out of 3 cases) Scouts were replaced by Gazelles. But in the remaining case, from a purely squadron perspective/viewpoint, the Gazelle aircraft would appear to have been replaced by the Lynx. Bearing in mind that the Gazelle and Lynx were part of the same aircraft buy-programme this would be quite bizarre - even by the sometime quirky decision making processes of the UK MoD. Looking at it from a regimental (or an actual role/purpose) perspective/viewpoint it could simply appear that the tank-killing role of the Scout was superceded by the Lynx and the function of an individual squadron was redefined to be (predominantly) either reconnaissance or tank-killing. ie: organisationally, some squadrons had their Scouts replaced Gazelles but (functionally) the Lynx replaced the Scout. Whatever, I still think we should only put into the article what we can verify by reliable sources.-- Bye for now ( PTT) 11:03, 17 November 2014 (UTC)