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I am proposing renaming this article to South Western Main Line, and creating a new West of England Main Line article describing the line from Paddington to Penzance. See discussion on Talk:Rail transport in Great Britain#Railway lines in the United Kingdom -- Chris j wood 11:41, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm going to nuke the Watership Down section as being completely not relevant to this article, even if it is meant to be the same railway line. -- 88.110.189.21 21:04, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I believe that the section on the history of the line from Exeter to Plymouth should be removed from this article and included in Southern Railway routes west of Salisbury. The route diagram would also then be shortened.
The reasoning is that:
Geof Sheppard ( talk) 14:02, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
While there hasn't been a huge outcry against the proposal I am mindful of Lamberhurst's comments, although we should be aware of crystal-ball gazing! However, I have not forgotten the issue. I am still of the opinion that thsi should reflect the current (and likely future) use of the line and shold therefore not go into the lines west of Exeter in any great detail. I have now found a little-loved page Exeter to Plymouth railway of the LSWR which is surely the correct place for this merger? Geof Sheppard ( talk) 13:06, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I think this article (like a lot of UK "route" articles) falls between two stools, of historical development based on geography (Basingstoke to Exeter SD) and current operations (Waterloo to Exeter SD). The historical side is very inadequate, and the current side seems to be a list of stations and references to Network Rail business plans.
It is important to remember that these articles are for the benefit of people who know very little about the topic, but want to know more; we "insiders" (if that's what we are) tend to forget that.
"West of England Main Line" is a pretty unhelpful title for such people -- if any non-insider person actually entered that into a search field, they might be thinking of Plymouth to Penzance (a main line in the West of England), or else Paddington - Plymouth (main line trains from London to the West of England). *We* know that isn't correct, but then *we* don't come to this article for information.
And another thing; if the scope is "the line from Basingstoke to Exeter", how is Clapham Junction one of the stations served? Afterbrunel ( talk) 10:28, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be an appetite at the moment to discuss the correct names of various UK railway articles, so I think this is an appropriate time to raise this issue. I propose that this be renamed West of England Line as I don't think it has ever officially been called the 'West of England Main Line'.
South West Trains have a Class 159 named West of England Line and the Network Southeast subdivision was also known as the 'West of England Line'. I can't find any official documents that use the 'main' word; the current SWT timetables and Network Rail route documentation don't give it a name at all.
It does have some currency as a 'Main' line in enthusiast publications and forums (and sources copied from Wiki), but then some other enthusiast sources use this phrase to mean the GWR route via Taunton. Geof Sheppard ( talk) 14:07, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane talk 02:14, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
West of England Main Line →
West of England line – News sources are pretty consistent in using "West of England line", without "Main" and with lowercase "line"; books are consistent with lowercase but often do include "main".
Dicklyon (
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03:51, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
The DFT classes this line as a main line, according to here: [1]
I think we need to rethink the change of the article name.
SageWater ( talk) 12:55, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
References
What are the numbers on the route map? Are they miles or kilometers? It would be good to have this information visible. Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 19:11, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
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There has been a Study undertaken by Network Rail about this line:
I thought I'd bring it to the attention of editors who may be keen to keep this article up to date. The article's scope is: "...an assessment of some potential investment choices for the West of England Line from London Waterloo to Exeter St. David's via Basingstoke, Salisbury, Yeovil and Axminster. "
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I am proposing renaming this article to South Western Main Line, and creating a new West of England Main Line article describing the line from Paddington to Penzance. See discussion on Talk:Rail transport in Great Britain#Railway lines in the United Kingdom -- Chris j wood 11:41, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm going to nuke the Watership Down section as being completely not relevant to this article, even if it is meant to be the same railway line. -- 88.110.189.21 21:04, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I believe that the section on the history of the line from Exeter to Plymouth should be removed from this article and included in Southern Railway routes west of Salisbury. The route diagram would also then be shortened.
The reasoning is that:
Geof Sheppard ( talk) 14:02, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
While there hasn't been a huge outcry against the proposal I am mindful of Lamberhurst's comments, although we should be aware of crystal-ball gazing! However, I have not forgotten the issue. I am still of the opinion that thsi should reflect the current (and likely future) use of the line and shold therefore not go into the lines west of Exeter in any great detail. I have now found a little-loved page Exeter to Plymouth railway of the LSWR which is surely the correct place for this merger? Geof Sheppard ( talk) 13:06, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I think this article (like a lot of UK "route" articles) falls between two stools, of historical development based on geography (Basingstoke to Exeter SD) and current operations (Waterloo to Exeter SD). The historical side is very inadequate, and the current side seems to be a list of stations and references to Network Rail business plans.
It is important to remember that these articles are for the benefit of people who know very little about the topic, but want to know more; we "insiders" (if that's what we are) tend to forget that.
"West of England Main Line" is a pretty unhelpful title for such people -- if any non-insider person actually entered that into a search field, they might be thinking of Plymouth to Penzance (a main line in the West of England), or else Paddington - Plymouth (main line trains from London to the West of England). *We* know that isn't correct, but then *we* don't come to this article for information.
And another thing; if the scope is "the line from Basingstoke to Exeter", how is Clapham Junction one of the stations served? Afterbrunel ( talk) 10:28, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be an appetite at the moment to discuss the correct names of various UK railway articles, so I think this is an appropriate time to raise this issue. I propose that this be renamed West of England Line as I don't think it has ever officially been called the 'West of England Main Line'.
South West Trains have a Class 159 named West of England Line and the Network Southeast subdivision was also known as the 'West of England Line'. I can't find any official documents that use the 'main' word; the current SWT timetables and Network Rail route documentation don't give it a name at all.
It does have some currency as a 'Main' line in enthusiast publications and forums (and sources copied from Wiki), but then some other enthusiast sources use this phrase to mean the GWR route via Taunton. Geof Sheppard ( talk) 14:07, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane talk 02:14, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
West of England Main Line →
West of England line – News sources are pretty consistent in using "West of England line", without "Main" and with lowercase "line"; books are consistent with lowercase but often do include "main".
Dicklyon (
talk)
03:51, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
The DFT classes this line as a main line, according to here: [1]
I think we need to rethink the change of the article name.
SageWater ( talk) 12:55, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
References
What are the numbers on the route map? Are they miles or kilometers? It would be good to have this information visible. Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 19:11, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
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There has been a Study undertaken by Network Rail about this line:
I thought I'd bring it to the attention of editors who may be keen to keep this article up to date. The article's scope is: "...an assessment of some potential investment choices for the West of England Line from London Waterloo to Exeter St. David's via Basingstoke, Salisbury, Yeovil and Axminster. "