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I think it might be appropriate to link
South Hetton Coal Company to
Hetton colliery railway. Can anyone confirm this?
Biscuittin 14:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
The reference to the Colton tramway ought perhaps to be extended. If it warrants a section on its locomotives there ought at least to be a mention of its topography. Some augmentation of the accessibility of the line today would be useful too.
Afterbrunel 17:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
What else do other editors think is needed to ensure this article meets the Good article criteria?— Rod talk 16:52, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
My edit of this page was a long time ago, and I am happy to defer to those who have done more recent work, and I won't vote against what Rod proposes. Mr Dingley could perhaps explain his point of view, which some readers might find difficult to follow; particularly the view that the article as it was in 2015 is only C class; and his point of view about Thomas Brown.
I have corrected a couple of typos this morning; if I was trying to improve the article, I would streamline some of the text. Two examples to illustrate:
(1) This was replaced by a permanent one "road" (track) structure known as "Watchet". is a bit weird. If "road" isn't generally understood by readers, why use it? Was the structure really known as "Watchet"?
(2) I don't quite see the importance of the subsequent history of "Two tender locomotives [that] were used to demonstrate the Angus automatic train control" ... They were on the line for six months in 1911 - 1912; why is it important to tell us what number the GWR allocated them after 1923? (Btw the citations for the tables of engine numbers are a bit missable where they are; shouldn't they be at the end of the tables?)
The red links worry me, as they scream "Incomplete article". Are their subjects really notable enough (and well enough documented in available literature) that there is a realistic chance of the topics having an article any time soon?
And I hate these back-to-front citations. For example the current prime minister of the UK is "Theresa May"; she is not "May, Theresa". And what on earth do the dates in "Madge, Robin (1975) [1971]. '7: Watchet–Brendon Hill'. Railways Round Exmoor" mean?
Finally there are 9 non-trivial articles about the line in the Railway Magazine archive. These may not add much new text (and more text isn't automatically a good thing anyway). Would it be worth cross-checking these?
But if you go for GA now I won't vote against it.
Afterbrunel ( talk) 07:19, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I will continue looking at the article but welcome your input and that of any other editors.— Rod talk 09:04, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
There seems to be some duplication between the last paragraph of "Passenger operation" and the section on "Decline and closure" with the date of 7 November 1898 and brief resumption in 1907. What do people think is the best way to handle these?— Rod talk 09:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
The paragraph about the testing of an automatic signal warning device is confusing me. The first part says "In 1911...but that was the last time the line was used." and then "The demonstration of the system took place at Kentsford on 5 July 1912" does anyone have the sources to resolve this?— Rod talk 15:34, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I have been asked (on my own Talk page) to supply references for the Railway Magazine articles relating to the line. Please accept my apologies for not following the discussion on this talk page here in this article.
West Somerset Mineral Railway references in Railway Magazine (omitting very trivial references and advertisements for books)
Afterbrunel ( talk) 22:37, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
West Somerset Mineral Railway has been listed as one of the
Engineering and technology good articles under the
good article criteria. If you can improve it further,
please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can
reassess it. Review: June 4, 2017. ( Reviewed version). |
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West Somerset Mineral Railway article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
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I think it might be appropriate to link
South Hetton Coal Company to
Hetton colliery railway. Can anyone confirm this?
Biscuittin 14:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
The reference to the Colton tramway ought perhaps to be extended. If it warrants a section on its locomotives there ought at least to be a mention of its topography. Some augmentation of the accessibility of the line today would be useful too.
Afterbrunel 17:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
What else do other editors think is needed to ensure this article meets the Good article criteria?— Rod talk 16:52, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
My edit of this page was a long time ago, and I am happy to defer to those who have done more recent work, and I won't vote against what Rod proposes. Mr Dingley could perhaps explain his point of view, which some readers might find difficult to follow; particularly the view that the article as it was in 2015 is only C class; and his point of view about Thomas Brown.
I have corrected a couple of typos this morning; if I was trying to improve the article, I would streamline some of the text. Two examples to illustrate:
(1) This was replaced by a permanent one "road" (track) structure known as "Watchet". is a bit weird. If "road" isn't generally understood by readers, why use it? Was the structure really known as "Watchet"?
(2) I don't quite see the importance of the subsequent history of "Two tender locomotives [that] were used to demonstrate the Angus automatic train control" ... They were on the line for six months in 1911 - 1912; why is it important to tell us what number the GWR allocated them after 1923? (Btw the citations for the tables of engine numbers are a bit missable where they are; shouldn't they be at the end of the tables?)
The red links worry me, as they scream "Incomplete article". Are their subjects really notable enough (and well enough documented in available literature) that there is a realistic chance of the topics having an article any time soon?
And I hate these back-to-front citations. For example the current prime minister of the UK is "Theresa May"; she is not "May, Theresa". And what on earth do the dates in "Madge, Robin (1975) [1971]. '7: Watchet–Brendon Hill'. Railways Round Exmoor" mean?
Finally there are 9 non-trivial articles about the line in the Railway Magazine archive. These may not add much new text (and more text isn't automatically a good thing anyway). Would it be worth cross-checking these?
But if you go for GA now I won't vote against it.
Afterbrunel ( talk) 07:19, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I will continue looking at the article but welcome your input and that of any other editors.— Rod talk 09:04, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
There seems to be some duplication between the last paragraph of "Passenger operation" and the section on "Decline and closure" with the date of 7 November 1898 and brief resumption in 1907. What do people think is the best way to handle these?— Rod talk 09:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
The paragraph about the testing of an automatic signal warning device is confusing me. The first part says "In 1911...but that was the last time the line was used." and then "The demonstration of the system took place at Kentsford on 5 July 1912" does anyone have the sources to resolve this?— Rod talk 15:34, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I have been asked (on my own Talk page) to supply references for the Railway Magazine articles relating to the line. Please accept my apologies for not following the discussion on this talk page here in this article.
West Somerset Mineral Railway references in Railway Magazine (omitting very trivial references and advertisements for books)
Afterbrunel ( talk) 22:37, 12 May 2017 (UTC)