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I understand that this rail line has some very interesting history, particularly regarding the difficulties of getting rail over peat bogs. If someone can put something on the page about the engineering history of this line, I would greatly appreciate it.
Is this really a mainline? I've never heard it described as such. I've only heard it referred to as 'the West Highland Line'.
I have seen it referred to as both. The West Highland Line page acts a redirect for people who know it by this name. ( Our Phellap 16:11, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC))
Historically, the railway to Oban was not part of the West Highland Line, but has come to be regarded as such since the partial closure of the original Callander & Oban Railway in 1965, after which all trains to Oban were routed via the WHL as far as Crianlarich.
Probably the best thing to do as it is now closed to West Highland trains, however it acknowledges it existence on the route.
-- Stewart 15:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC) Craigendoran (Upper) == Is presently closed to West Highland trains, however the platform still exists (under the weeds and with its entrance blocked at the foot of the stairs) There are moves afoot locally, to push for reopening it as there is growing development at this end of Helensburgh including the local secondary and a recently built Waitrose. There are also recent local attempts to get other stations on the West Highland Line, in the Helensburgh area, reopened. Decisions on several are presently pending.(see Whistlefield, Shandon and Rhu below)
Whistlefield, Shandon and Rhu (or Row) were closed in the mid 1960's along with Craigendoran (Upper). Is there a place for them in this article?
-- Stewart 15:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
A "former stations" section perhaps. Laurel Bush 17:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC).
They should be listed, but struck out in the same manner as Craigendoran. 81.79.155.131 18:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I have a possible reference
Thomas J., 1970, The West Highland Railway,(revised edn) Pan Books, London. (First published 1965 by David & Charles)but I don't know how to add a Wiki article.
Ndangerfield 08:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
History of the line is now provided at West Highland Railway. This includes the closed stations, and the original terminus at Banavie Pier. -- Stewart 08:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
There was no mention of the former passing place on Rannoch Moor at Gorton Crossing (OS Grid Ref NN 395 479), so I added a single line to include it. It's still there (see http://www.flickr.com/photos/93042849@N00/6146515901/). Geograph has a few photos of the location too http://www.geograph.org.uk/browse.php?gridref=NN4643&gridsquare=NN&eastings=39&northings=47&setpos=Show+%3E. Someone might like to add it to the diagram?
I cannot believe that the only incident of note was on the ex-Callendar and Oban section of this route in June 2010. For completeness sake either the other relevant incidents since the route became established (and I would say that should be when the C&O was closed east of Crainlarich in 1965) or incidents should be removed. At the moment the section is very selective in its content. -- Stewart ( talk | edits) 19:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
There have definately been more incidents than this. Only a few years ago there was an incident at Loch Awe-side where a train was derailed, but spared from the water by trees in the way.(see Wikipedia article " Falls of Cruachan derailment ")
I would like someone who has the time to convert a load of numbers to go and edit the route diagram located at Template:West_Highland_Line so that the distances are in miles as opposed to Km because the UK primarily measures distances in miles. I tried to edit it myself but it just takes too long so I gave up. Either convert the Kms to Miles or add a second collum for miles so both units can be shown. Slender ( talk) 23:34, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Point | Miles:chains | Point | Miles:chains | Zero point |
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Glasgow Queen Street High Level | 0:02 | Cowlairs West Junction | 1:67 | Queen Street ticket hall |
Cowlairs West Junction | 8:26 | Maryhill Park Junction | 5:51 | High Street via Hyndland |
Maryhill Park Junction | 4:40 | Dunglass Junction | 13:40 | Queen Street HL |
Dunglass Junction | 113:46 | Dumbarton East Junction | 116:00 | Carlisle |
Dumbarton East Junction | 15:51 | Craigendoran Junction | 22:76 | Queen Street HL via Maryhill |
Craigendoran Junction | -0:01 | Crianlarich Junction | 36:31 | Craigendoran Junction signal box |
Crianlarich Junction | 0:00 | Lower Crianlarich Junction | 0:44 | Crianlarich Junction |
Lower Crianlarich Junction | 30:23 | Oban | 71:44 | Callander |
Crianlarich Junction | 36:31 | Fort William Junction | 98:65 | Craigendoran Junction signal box |
Fort William Junction | 98:65 | Fort William | 99:37 | Craigendoran Junction signal box |
Fort William Junction | 0:05 | Banavie Junction | 1:27 | Fort William Junction signal box |
Banavie Junction | 0:00 | Mallaig | 39:39 | Banavie Junction |
Why not have the items in the table and the diagram in the section "The route in detail" listed in the same order and in the same direction (from top to bottom)? Now one starts with Glasgow and the other ends with it, which makes comparison harder than necessary. Redav ( talk) 10:37, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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The route diagram is wrong. It is the route diagram for the Kyle of Lochalsh line not the West Highland line. 92.26.15.164 ( talk) 12:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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I understand that this rail line has some very interesting history, particularly regarding the difficulties of getting rail over peat bogs. If someone can put something on the page about the engineering history of this line, I would greatly appreciate it.
Is this really a mainline? I've never heard it described as such. I've only heard it referred to as 'the West Highland Line'.
I have seen it referred to as both. The West Highland Line page acts a redirect for people who know it by this name. ( Our Phellap 16:11, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC))
Historically, the railway to Oban was not part of the West Highland Line, but has come to be regarded as such since the partial closure of the original Callander & Oban Railway in 1965, after which all trains to Oban were routed via the WHL as far as Crianlarich.
Probably the best thing to do as it is now closed to West Highland trains, however it acknowledges it existence on the route.
-- Stewart 15:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC) Craigendoran (Upper) == Is presently closed to West Highland trains, however the platform still exists (under the weeds and with its entrance blocked at the foot of the stairs) There are moves afoot locally, to push for reopening it as there is growing development at this end of Helensburgh including the local secondary and a recently built Waitrose. There are also recent local attempts to get other stations on the West Highland Line, in the Helensburgh area, reopened. Decisions on several are presently pending.(see Whistlefield, Shandon and Rhu below)
Whistlefield, Shandon and Rhu (or Row) were closed in the mid 1960's along with Craigendoran (Upper). Is there a place for them in this article?
-- Stewart 15:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
A "former stations" section perhaps. Laurel Bush 17:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC).
They should be listed, but struck out in the same manner as Craigendoran. 81.79.155.131 18:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I have a possible reference
Thomas J., 1970, The West Highland Railway,(revised edn) Pan Books, London. (First published 1965 by David & Charles)but I don't know how to add a Wiki article.
Ndangerfield 08:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
History of the line is now provided at West Highland Railway. This includes the closed stations, and the original terminus at Banavie Pier. -- Stewart 08:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
There was no mention of the former passing place on Rannoch Moor at Gorton Crossing (OS Grid Ref NN 395 479), so I added a single line to include it. It's still there (see http://www.flickr.com/photos/93042849@N00/6146515901/). Geograph has a few photos of the location too http://www.geograph.org.uk/browse.php?gridref=NN4643&gridsquare=NN&eastings=39&northings=47&setpos=Show+%3E. Someone might like to add it to the diagram?
I cannot believe that the only incident of note was on the ex-Callendar and Oban section of this route in June 2010. For completeness sake either the other relevant incidents since the route became established (and I would say that should be when the C&O was closed east of Crainlarich in 1965) or incidents should be removed. At the moment the section is very selective in its content. -- Stewart ( talk | edits) 19:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
There have definately been more incidents than this. Only a few years ago there was an incident at Loch Awe-side where a train was derailed, but spared from the water by trees in the way.(see Wikipedia article " Falls of Cruachan derailment ")
I would like someone who has the time to convert a load of numbers to go and edit the route diagram located at Template:West_Highland_Line so that the distances are in miles as opposed to Km because the UK primarily measures distances in miles. I tried to edit it myself but it just takes too long so I gave up. Either convert the Kms to Miles or add a second collum for miles so both units can be shown. Slender ( talk) 23:34, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Point | Miles:chains | Point | Miles:chains | Zero point |
---|---|---|---|---|
Glasgow Queen Street High Level | 0:02 | Cowlairs West Junction | 1:67 | Queen Street ticket hall |
Cowlairs West Junction | 8:26 | Maryhill Park Junction | 5:51 | High Street via Hyndland |
Maryhill Park Junction | 4:40 | Dunglass Junction | 13:40 | Queen Street HL |
Dunglass Junction | 113:46 | Dumbarton East Junction | 116:00 | Carlisle |
Dumbarton East Junction | 15:51 | Craigendoran Junction | 22:76 | Queen Street HL via Maryhill |
Craigendoran Junction | -0:01 | Crianlarich Junction | 36:31 | Craigendoran Junction signal box |
Crianlarich Junction | 0:00 | Lower Crianlarich Junction | 0:44 | Crianlarich Junction |
Lower Crianlarich Junction | 30:23 | Oban | 71:44 | Callander |
Crianlarich Junction | 36:31 | Fort William Junction | 98:65 | Craigendoran Junction signal box |
Fort William Junction | 98:65 | Fort William | 99:37 | Craigendoran Junction signal box |
Fort William Junction | 0:05 | Banavie Junction | 1:27 | Fort William Junction signal box |
Banavie Junction | 0:00 | Mallaig | 39:39 | Banavie Junction |
Why not have the items in the table and the diagram in the section "The route in detail" listed in the same order and in the same direction (from top to bottom)? Now one starts with Glasgow and the other ends with it, which makes comparison harder than necessary. Redav ( talk) 10:37, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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The route diagram is wrong. It is the route diagram for the Kyle of Lochalsh line not the West Highland line. 92.26.15.164 ( talk) 12:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)