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Asa Seeley was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 04 February 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into West Baltimore station. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
User:Sebwite reverted to a version with several factual inaccuracies or other problems, some arguably BLP violations:
Jfire ( talk) 05:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
With this edit I removed the entire section on the arrest situation. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asa Seeley was closed as requiring a merge of material to this article, but only four editors commented there and only one suggested merging material here (one supported keeping, two were in favor of deletion, closing admin did not explain why "merge to West Baltimore (MARC station)" was the consensus). To be blunt, mentioning a one-off arrest of a guy with a gun who supposedly was going to try to kill the president—but then it turns out he wasn't, i.e. the reports were false—in an article on a stop on a commuter rail line is completely bizarre. Obviously like anything it's up for discussion but I think someone would need to provide a pretty good explanation for why that completely non-notable material belongs in this article (incidentally, WP:BLP is not a minor concern here since we are randomly reporting on someone's criminal activity, which would never itself be notable, solely because they were wrongly accused of something else far more dramatic—that's a problem). For the record, I became aware of this matter when reading through a proposed section of a guideline at WP:BREAKING as it existed at the time of this comment. -- Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 05:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Compromise version? Much shorter, also.
On November 19, 2008, the station was in spotlight after a man was arrested there carrying a rifle after having been refused transportation to Washington, DC by a taxi driver who saw that he was carrying a rifle. Asa Seeley was charged with weapons offenses. It was reported that the man was going to shoot President George W. Bush but prosecutors' charging documents reported that "he was going to Washington to shoot the people that shot him."
Note: none of the sources say whether the presidential assassination report was false. Maybe it was true but not enough evidence. Or maybe inaccurate.
Any other information about the station? Fatal accident there? Zoning fights? Things near the station? Come on, we can do much more with this article! Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 16:40, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion#Asa Seeley. Also, if someone recalls the WQA, AN, or ANI thread that spun off from this, I'd appreciate a pointer to it; can't seem to find it in my contributions, tho I'm sure I commented somewhere. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 17:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
The Maryland Transit Administration plans to add around 400 new parking spaces at the West Baltimore MARC station.
Two new commuter lots, slated for east of Pulaski Street, will cost about $9 million to build and would double the station’s parking. The new lots are temporary until a planned redevelopment around the station begins by 2013.
From: http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/stories/2009/02/23/daily53.html Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 22:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
The area around the station is supposed to be high crime and not much development according to a blog. More objective description and references available? Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 01:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Edgewood (MARC station) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 20:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
The history section is a bit of a mess. Conrail took over the Penn Central's commuter trains on what is now called the Penn Line in 1976. In 1979 that service stood at four round trips. It was subsidized by the state of Maryland through the State Railroad Administration, a forerunner of the Maryland Transit Administration. Separately, Amtrak ran the Chesapeake between Washington and Philadelphia, making local stops, including this one. It was subsidized by Pennsylvania and Maryland. The Northeast Rail Services Act of 1981 gets Conrail out of the commuter service for good on January 1, 1983. The Penn Line falls under something called AMDOT (Amtrak Maryland Department of Transportation), which I assume is Amtrak operating the Penn Line under contract to the Maryland Department of Transportation. The Chesapeake, separate from all of this, ends in October 1983. We're lacking documentation on why. All of these services went to Edmondson Avenue, the current station's predecessor. Mackensen (talk) 13:52, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
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Asa Seeley was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 04 February 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into West Baltimore station. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
User:Sebwite reverted to a version with several factual inaccuracies or other problems, some arguably BLP violations:
Jfire ( talk) 05:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
With this edit I removed the entire section on the arrest situation. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asa Seeley was closed as requiring a merge of material to this article, but only four editors commented there and only one suggested merging material here (one supported keeping, two were in favor of deletion, closing admin did not explain why "merge to West Baltimore (MARC station)" was the consensus). To be blunt, mentioning a one-off arrest of a guy with a gun who supposedly was going to try to kill the president—but then it turns out he wasn't, i.e. the reports were false—in an article on a stop on a commuter rail line is completely bizarre. Obviously like anything it's up for discussion but I think someone would need to provide a pretty good explanation for why that completely non-notable material belongs in this article (incidentally, WP:BLP is not a minor concern here since we are randomly reporting on someone's criminal activity, which would never itself be notable, solely because they were wrongly accused of something else far more dramatic—that's a problem). For the record, I became aware of this matter when reading through a proposed section of a guideline at WP:BREAKING as it existed at the time of this comment. -- Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 05:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Compromise version? Much shorter, also.
On November 19, 2008, the station was in spotlight after a man was arrested there carrying a rifle after having been refused transportation to Washington, DC by a taxi driver who saw that he was carrying a rifle. Asa Seeley was charged with weapons offenses. It was reported that the man was going to shoot President George W. Bush but prosecutors' charging documents reported that "he was going to Washington to shoot the people that shot him."
Note: none of the sources say whether the presidential assassination report was false. Maybe it was true but not enough evidence. Or maybe inaccurate.
Any other information about the station? Fatal accident there? Zoning fights? Things near the station? Come on, we can do much more with this article! Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 16:40, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion#Asa Seeley. Also, if someone recalls the WQA, AN, or ANI thread that spun off from this, I'd appreciate a pointer to it; can't seem to find it in my contributions, tho I'm sure I commented somewhere. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 17:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
The Maryland Transit Administration plans to add around 400 new parking spaces at the West Baltimore MARC station.
Two new commuter lots, slated for east of Pulaski Street, will cost about $9 million to build and would double the station’s parking. The new lots are temporary until a planned redevelopment around the station begins by 2013.
From: http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/stories/2009/02/23/daily53.html Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 22:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
The area around the station is supposed to be high crime and not much development according to a blog. More objective description and references available? Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 01:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Edgewood (MARC station) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 20:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
The history section is a bit of a mess. Conrail took over the Penn Central's commuter trains on what is now called the Penn Line in 1976. In 1979 that service stood at four round trips. It was subsidized by the state of Maryland through the State Railroad Administration, a forerunner of the Maryland Transit Administration. Separately, Amtrak ran the Chesapeake between Washington and Philadelphia, making local stops, including this one. It was subsidized by Pennsylvania and Maryland. The Northeast Rail Services Act of 1981 gets Conrail out of the commuter service for good on January 1, 1983. The Penn Line falls under something called AMDOT (Amtrak Maryland Department of Transportation), which I assume is Amtrak operating the Penn Line under contract to the Maryland Department of Transportation. The Chesapeake, separate from all of this, ends in October 1983. We're lacking documentation on why. All of these services went to Edmondson Avenue, the current station's predecessor. Mackensen (talk) 13:52, 30 March 2018 (UTC)