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Can we change the coloring of the "tie" and "NXT win" ? They are way too similar.
Is there gonna a ratings table similar to the one for the Monday Night Wars? LROSE ( talk) 15:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
What's with the similar colours used in the ratings table - can we not have colours that don't clash as much?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:408:D400:59D8:8049:21:A29B ( talk) 09:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
It has been two months since head to head competition. I could see this being notable in a years time. Their is not going to be any new information or anything notable to add except for adding to the ratings table. For now this page should not exist. James Sunderland James Sunderland ( talk) 16:57, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Shouldn't the 18-49 demo rating of each show be noted and listed for each week? This is done for many other American TV shows, even ones not involved in a "war". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.85.52 ( talk) 11:25, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Nearly every American show (including pro wrestling) aims for the demo. It's the most important audience, and it's definitely worth noting Aardwolf68 ( talk) 01:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
This should be removed imo 24.38.208.110 ( talk) 12:55, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
For similar reasons to the above, shouldn't the "+7" figure - the rating which includes people who watch the shows in the 7 days following the live broadcast - be included? It's increasingly the standard by which the industry judges these things due to the rise of streaming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.224.46.51 ( talk) 16:57, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Firstly, I would like to commend user @ J4lambert: for their major contribution to the page of late. The "Before the War" and "Impact of the coronavirus" sections are good overlays of the context of what is happening with the war. However, I might suggest one thing, and that suggestion would be that the page, in general, should probably avoid recapping storylines unless those storylines can be directly shown to have affected the ratings. I fear the page will balloon enormously in size over time if multiple users try and recap the storylines the promotions are doing. The "war" could go for many years to come and too much recapping will lead to a sprawling article.
If a storyline can be shown to be consistency adding to the ratings of a promotion (or indeed, losing ratings), that can be included, but otherwise, I think it should be avoided. A way to demonstrate this would be quarter-hour ratings. So, for example, it would probably be fairly easy to demonstrate that someone like Chris Jericho is capable of shifting/hold the ratings.
One example of "fluff" or "filler" in the article in the "The war begins" section are a few sentences recapping what Charlotte Flair did in storyline between January and February 2020. How this influenced the war in any way is not demonstrated. If it can be shown this was something that influenced ratings, it should be kept. But if not, then this type of information just overloads the article with trivia.
That's my 2 cents. CeltBrowne ( talk) 21:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
No explanation of what makes this important or any prose to describe why it matters? It's nonsense, and obviously it's blatantly against WP:INDISCRIMINATE. ItsKesha ( talk) 18:28, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Reviewer: REDMAN 2019 ( talk · contribs) 18:39, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
I will take a look at this.
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I'm afraid I'm going to have to quickfail this one. The reasons being the expansion needed tag at the COVID section, and also because it is uncertain weather the article meets Wikipedia's general notability criteria. Also I notice that you have only made two edits to the page. Editors who are not regular contributors to the page in question are advised to seek clearance from regular ones. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 18:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
Can someone convert this into a footnote? The link as-is will not be accessible to users of screen reading software. The link should be descriptive as to the article it's linking to. SunnySydeRamsay ( talk) 22:40, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Well, now that the War has ended, the aftermath may be a thing to add to the article in the future. Clearly it's far too early to say anything much, as the fallout is still unsettled and the third-party analyses we would need to use as sources don't really exist yet, but we can't just leave this article without such things when they become clear. Already there may be signs that, unlike the Monday Night Wars that pushed Raw and Nitro to ever higher viewership, the Wednesday Night War may have actually been hurting both programs instead, as the first week with the shows on separate nights had NXT with some 820,000 viewers, their largest viewership since October and in the top 5 for the series as a whole, while Dynamite had a whopping 1.2 million, their second best rating ever, behind only the premier episode. oknazevad ( talk) 19:19, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Oknazevad you have provided no reason this info should remain. There is no prose which explains why it is so important and therefore no sources which explain why it is so notable as to be included. As it stands it is in clear violation of WP:NOSTATS. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha ( talk) 23:22, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
Wednesday Night Wars was nominated as a Sports and recreation good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (December 19, 2020). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
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Can we change the coloring of the "tie" and "NXT win" ? They are way too similar.
Is there gonna a ratings table similar to the one for the Monday Night Wars? LROSE ( talk) 15:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
What's with the similar colours used in the ratings table - can we not have colours that don't clash as much?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:408:D400:59D8:8049:21:A29B ( talk) 09:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
It has been two months since head to head competition. I could see this being notable in a years time. Their is not going to be any new information or anything notable to add except for adding to the ratings table. For now this page should not exist. James Sunderland James Sunderland ( talk) 16:57, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Shouldn't the 18-49 demo rating of each show be noted and listed for each week? This is done for many other American TV shows, even ones not involved in a "war". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.85.52 ( talk) 11:25, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Nearly every American show (including pro wrestling) aims for the demo. It's the most important audience, and it's definitely worth noting Aardwolf68 ( talk) 01:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
This should be removed imo 24.38.208.110 ( talk) 12:55, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
For similar reasons to the above, shouldn't the "+7" figure - the rating which includes people who watch the shows in the 7 days following the live broadcast - be included? It's increasingly the standard by which the industry judges these things due to the rise of streaming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.224.46.51 ( talk) 16:57, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Firstly, I would like to commend user @ J4lambert: for their major contribution to the page of late. The "Before the War" and "Impact of the coronavirus" sections are good overlays of the context of what is happening with the war. However, I might suggest one thing, and that suggestion would be that the page, in general, should probably avoid recapping storylines unless those storylines can be directly shown to have affected the ratings. I fear the page will balloon enormously in size over time if multiple users try and recap the storylines the promotions are doing. The "war" could go for many years to come and too much recapping will lead to a sprawling article.
If a storyline can be shown to be consistency adding to the ratings of a promotion (or indeed, losing ratings), that can be included, but otherwise, I think it should be avoided. A way to demonstrate this would be quarter-hour ratings. So, for example, it would probably be fairly easy to demonstrate that someone like Chris Jericho is capable of shifting/hold the ratings.
One example of "fluff" or "filler" in the article in the "The war begins" section are a few sentences recapping what Charlotte Flair did in storyline between January and February 2020. How this influenced the war in any way is not demonstrated. If it can be shown this was something that influenced ratings, it should be kept. But if not, then this type of information just overloads the article with trivia.
That's my 2 cents. CeltBrowne ( talk) 21:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
No explanation of what makes this important or any prose to describe why it matters? It's nonsense, and obviously it's blatantly against WP:INDISCRIMINATE. ItsKesha ( talk) 18:28, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Reviewer: REDMAN 2019 ( talk · contribs) 18:39, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
I will take a look at this.
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18:39, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid I'm going to have to quickfail this one. The reasons being the expansion needed tag at the COVID section, and also because it is uncertain weather the article meets Wikipedia's general notability criteria. Also I notice that you have only made two edits to the page. Editors who are not regular contributors to the page in question are advised to seek clearance from regular ones. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 18:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
Can someone convert this into a footnote? The link as-is will not be accessible to users of screen reading software. The link should be descriptive as to the article it's linking to. SunnySydeRamsay ( talk) 22:40, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Well, now that the War has ended, the aftermath may be a thing to add to the article in the future. Clearly it's far too early to say anything much, as the fallout is still unsettled and the third-party analyses we would need to use as sources don't really exist yet, but we can't just leave this article without such things when they become clear. Already there may be signs that, unlike the Monday Night Wars that pushed Raw and Nitro to ever higher viewership, the Wednesday Night War may have actually been hurting both programs instead, as the first week with the shows on separate nights had NXT with some 820,000 viewers, their largest viewership since October and in the top 5 for the series as a whole, while Dynamite had a whopping 1.2 million, their second best rating ever, behind only the premier episode. oknazevad ( talk) 19:19, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Oknazevad you have provided no reason this info should remain. There is no prose which explains why it is so important and therefore no sources which explain why it is so notable as to be included. As it stands it is in clear violation of WP:NOSTATS. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha ( talk) 23:22, 18 December 2022 (UTC)