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Why not include the actual speech here? It's in the public domain. Surely anyone coming here to read this article wants the speech itself more than anything else. Instead, it's not even linked to until you get to the footnotes right at the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.68.127.150 ( talk) 11:07, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Why was part of the speech cut out of the text? Specifically, why was the sentence "Why does Rice play Texas?" cut out? 50.101.169.185 ( talk) 09:30, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
It was removed by JustinTime55 on 17:48, 17 April 2015. I'm adding it back. 50.101.169.185 ( talk) 09:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I agree with the position that it is important to not excise the Rice/Texas statement out of the text. Here is an important aspect that has not been mentioned here yet: Listen to the audience reaction. The biggest outbursts of applause that JFK gets during this speech are in response to his jokes. One being the football joke. Another being his 'hot as the Sun' joke. So many of the highlight reels skip the jokes, so it gives the impression that the huge outburst is in direct response to "We choose to go to the Moon..." This gives a distorted impression. Just look at the response of the people on the podium behind Kennedy during this huge applause. They are laughing quite noticeably.
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football joke, audience outburst
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hot as the Sun joke, audience outburst
I have re-inserted the full text, and in the notes gave further info on just how hard it has proven to be for Rice to play Texas. This speech is JFK the salesman at his best. It would be a disservice for us as editors to remove the best parts of what made him a great communiciator.-- Tdadamemd sioz ( talk) 12:18, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Hello, a lead should summarize the article properly but this lead does not. Summarizing is difficult but the lead is the most important part of the article. Hekerui ( talk) 13:11, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to propose that the two links under External links change from this:
To this, which is arguably much tidier:
I had changed this (see [1]), but my changes were reverted. — Hugh ( talk) 00:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Hawkeye7, my fingers are itching to insert 'no' at "and there was indication of what should be done next" but it's just been GA'd so I am not sure/bold enough. And maybe a 'the' in "but the future of American space program remained" and a z in characterised? Also, while looking for more info on 'indication/no indication', I looked at Apollo 11 - there are 2 ref errors, 44 and 64. Thanks, JennyOz ( talk) 03:56, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Two editors are reverting my edits without properly explaining why. They are
Both editors failed to give any convincing reason for their reverts. Both appear to have completely misunderstood the point of my edits. One has gone so far as to lie about me, falsely claiming that I did not explain what I did. Thus, I think it's abundantly clear that neither is acting in good faith. Doktor Rotkod ( talk) 23:25, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
The first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what, or who, the subject is.Obviously, the subject of this article is the speech, not just one sentence in the speech. The article focuses on the background before the speech, the delivery of the speech, the rhetoric of the speech, etc. I have made the necessary change. Now something like "The name derives from..." could be added to the lead, similar to Infamy Speech, if everyone thinks it necessary. However, the first sentence should reference the speech itself, not that "tagline". « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
What goals or actions, was the late president talking about when he stated " We choose to go to the moon, In this decade, (and do the other thing's.)" And the conclusion read, "one we intend to win, (and the others too.)" What are the other things? 97.120.165.33 ( talk) 13:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
After reverting twice without bothering to think of a reason, User:Hawkeye7 attempted to come up with a post hoc justification on their third revert. But what they came up with was untrue, and dishonest. They claimed:
"This" and "it" imply that the user thinks they were undoing one change. They were undoing three separate changes. I think it's quite clear that they have no justification for their behaviour other than a dislike of someone editing "their" article.
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John F. Kennedy (pictured) said: "
We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"? | |||||||||
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Why not include the actual speech here? It's in the public domain. Surely anyone coming here to read this article wants the speech itself more than anything else. Instead, it's not even linked to until you get to the footnotes right at the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.68.127.150 ( talk) 11:07, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Why was part of the speech cut out of the text? Specifically, why was the sentence "Why does Rice play Texas?" cut out? 50.101.169.185 ( talk) 09:30, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
It was removed by JustinTime55 on 17:48, 17 April 2015. I'm adding it back. 50.101.169.185 ( talk) 09:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I agree with the position that it is important to not excise the Rice/Texas statement out of the text. Here is an important aspect that has not been mentioned here yet: Listen to the audience reaction. The biggest outbursts of applause that JFK gets during this speech are in response to his jokes. One being the football joke. Another being his 'hot as the Sun' joke. So many of the highlight reels skip the jokes, so it gives the impression that the huge outburst is in direct response to "We choose to go to the Moon..." This gives a distorted impression. Just look at the response of the people on the podium behind Kennedy during this huge applause. They are laughing quite noticeably.
-
football joke, audience outburst
-
hot as the Sun joke, audience outburst
I have re-inserted the full text, and in the notes gave further info on just how hard it has proven to be for Rice to play Texas. This speech is JFK the salesman at his best. It would be a disservice for us as editors to remove the best parts of what made him a great communiciator.-- Tdadamemd sioz ( talk) 12:18, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Hello, a lead should summarize the article properly but this lead does not. Summarizing is difficult but the lead is the most important part of the article. Hekerui ( talk) 13:11, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to propose that the two links under External links change from this:
To this, which is arguably much tidier:
I had changed this (see [1]), but my changes were reverted. — Hugh ( talk) 00:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Hawkeye7, my fingers are itching to insert 'no' at "and there was indication of what should be done next" but it's just been GA'd so I am not sure/bold enough. And maybe a 'the' in "but the future of American space program remained" and a z in characterised? Also, while looking for more info on 'indication/no indication', I looked at Apollo 11 - there are 2 ref errors, 44 and 64. Thanks, JennyOz ( talk) 03:56, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Two editors are reverting my edits without properly explaining why. They are
Both editors failed to give any convincing reason for their reverts. Both appear to have completely misunderstood the point of my edits. One has gone so far as to lie about me, falsely claiming that I did not explain what I did. Thus, I think it's abundantly clear that neither is acting in good faith. Doktor Rotkod ( talk) 23:25, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
The first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what, or who, the subject is.Obviously, the subject of this article is the speech, not just one sentence in the speech. The article focuses on the background before the speech, the delivery of the speech, the rhetoric of the speech, etc. I have made the necessary change. Now something like "The name derives from..." could be added to the lead, similar to Infamy Speech, if everyone thinks it necessary. However, the first sentence should reference the speech itself, not that "tagline". « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
What goals or actions, was the late president talking about when he stated " We choose to go to the moon, In this decade, (and do the other thing's.)" And the conclusion read, "one we intend to win, (and the others too.)" What are the other things? 97.120.165.33 ( talk) 13:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
After reverting twice without bothering to think of a reason, User:Hawkeye7 attempted to come up with a post hoc justification on their third revert. But what they came up with was untrue, and dishonest. They claimed:
"This" and "it" imply that the user thinks they were undoing one change. They were undoing three separate changes. I think it's quite clear that they have no justification for their behaviour other than a dislike of someone editing "their" article.