This article is a mess, full of inaccuracies and missed information. I'll tidy it when I've got the energy.... Martyn Smith 18:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
24.161.100.215 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) made an changing "Waylon J. Smithers Jr." to "Waylon Jaylord Smithers Jr." and this was unnoticed for over a month until I reverted it. Obviously the "jaylord" is vandalism. I also took off the "jr.", as the Simpsons website lists him only as "Waylon Smithers." I'll delete all the J's and Juniors's until someone can find an official source using that title. JianLi 22:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
The jr. obviously comes from his father's name being also Walyon Smithers. Zé da Silva 17:33, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
ya but if his father is dead than he isn't a jr anymore hes the ONLY waylon smithers
Like Freddie Prinze Jr, his dad died but he still keeps the name. Davie4264 23:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the top picture be of Yellow Smithers? Black Smithers only exists for one episode. Lenzar 17:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Nitpicking here perhaps but this wikipedia article says that Smithers is a alum of Alpha Tau Omega. While on the list of Fictional fraternities and sororities he is listed as being a member of Alpha Tau. While there are many character bios of Smithers that say he was in a fraternity i can find none that list the name of the fraternity. Since i know that usually becuase of licensing rights most fictional characters are usually made to be members of fictional fraternities and every other greek organazation listed in the Simpsons are fictional i'm inclined to belive that this article is wrong and he is a Alpha Tau and the editior simply assumed Alpha Tau Omega. So for now I'm removing the ATO link and will re-write to indicate that he is simply a alum of a Greek organazation. However, hopefully someone can dig up a reference on the name of the Fraternity i think it's an intresting peice of trivia. Trey 17:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I have no Idea what you are talking about. Care to explain? Emi211 Emi211 06:54, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
in the personal life section of this article it has Smithers listed as a member of Alpha Tau Omega a national men's college social fraternity. In another article listed on wikipedia Fictional fraternities and sororities it has Smithers listed as a member of Alpha Tau, which doe not exist in real life. I was wondering which it was, if either, and if anyone had a reference to prove it. Untill this is resolved i removed the info from the article. The Sentence now currently reads He is an alumnus of a college Fraternity second line of the personal life section. does that clear it up? Trey 16:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Why was he black in the skin with blue coloured hair? Why is he not a black man now! Did he turn yellow when he started falling in love with his boss? Dying to find out, good day.
Waylon's dad is Waylon Sr. or Wayland? The article contradicts itself currently.
There is one episode in the Simpsons where Professor Frink welcomes Bart and Lisa to a machine based on astrology. Future Bart meets up with Smithers after saving Burns from Snake. Smithers is with a lady and Bart says something to the effect of "I thought you were...you know..." to which Smithers replies "Not as long as I take this shot," to which he promptly injects himself, flailing his arms and screaming "I LOVE BOOBIES!" I forgot which episode this is but if you can find out which one I think it would be an excellent addition to the "evidence" for Smithers' homosexuality. 70.252.14.113 12:16, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it ok to remove the large number of "gay allusions" from the Personal Life section since there is a whole separate section reserved for them anyway?
"Gay" is the preferred term by the gay community to refer to its members, especially male ones. "Homosexual" is generally disfavored. This is in line with Wikipedia's policy of using terminology favored by a group when referring to that group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabanks ( talk • contribs) 06:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
The correct way to make a singular noun possessive is to add 's to the end. This is true even if the original word ends in s. Thus: Smithers's and Burns's are the correct possessive forms of the names Smithers and Burns. I'm about to correct these in the article and am puttingvthis note here so folks will understand why. :) Aleta 03:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I'll quote my trusty Strunk & White (3rd ed., page 1):
"1. Form the possessive singular of nouns by adding 's.
Follow this rule whatever the final consonant. Thus write,
Charles's friend
Burns's poems
the witch's malice"
- Aleta 19:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
There's something not right about the use of 'creepy' here as an adjective. It is a matter of opinion whether a thing is 'creepy' or not, and so it isn't fact. The view that Burns' mansion is 'creepy' would vary among one reader to another.
There are a lot of duplicate facts and information in this article. If someone was so inclined, pehaps they could clean it up? Bahamut0013 19:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
A user has removed the LGBT project banner twice, even though he's obviously in love with Burns, who is a man. If you have a reason for removing the banner, please post it here for discussion. -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 06:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Since you all seem to be fighting so hard to keep the article as part of your project, I don't suppose any of you would actually like to HELP clean up and improve the article? -- Scorpion 0422 02:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes it was Future-Drama. There was another episode where the gay pride parade goes past the Simpson’s house, one of the floats is a closeted float and has two people waving from inside a closet saying "We're gay, we're glad. But don't tell mom and dad." One of them is Smithers the other one is Patty or Selma (I forget which one is which). That's going by voices alone, and I can't remember which episode it's in. -- Tyrfing 22:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
According to the character box, Smithers' hair color is blue in ONE episode. The image and section on "Black Smithers" show that he was black and had blue hair in Homer's Odyssey. However, I recently saw There's No Disgrace Like Home. In this episode, his hair is blue as well - and this clearly comes after Homer's Odyssey, as proven both by the episode list and the fact Smithers is not black here. So, to the best of my knowledge, Smithers' hair is blue in the first TWO episodes. 70.111.0.219 22:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
There was one allusion to Smithers' homosexuality in which Burns is washing his car and for some reason, Smithers catches fire, he screams to Burns to spray water on him screaming "I'm flaming!". Burns looks less than surprised. I can't remember this episode bu I know that I have seen this before. Reginmund 07:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that Smithers is named after Wayland's Smithy, or is the similarity just a coincidence? 195.137.79.247 14:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Given that there is a source for his first name in the commentaries, is it to far fetched to wonder if his last name came from Leonard Smithers? There is no reference in the article to that Smithers being gay, but he did publish John Addington Symonds book Male Love —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.180.156.58 ( talk) 14:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
In "My sister, my sitter" (S08E17), when Lisa visits Dr. Nick's confidential clinic and asks Mr. Smithers if she could go ahead of him, Mr. Smithers is shown to be the only waiting patient who is standing right in front an empty seat on the bench on which all the other patients are sitting. When he notes that he would rather have "this" taken care of as soon as possible, he is looking in the direction of his buttocks, possibly an allusion to anal stimulation with unintended results.-- 80.145.64.41 18:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Currently the first appearance section of the infobox says ""Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire" (Voice only) "Homer's Odyssey"", but I think it's unnecessary to mention both episodes. Which should be the one we mention? The first time we hear him (which aired first) or the first time we say the character? -- Scorpion 0422 04:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
The phrase Smithers has occasional fantasies about Burns seems misleading, haven't most (all?) Smithers' fantasies been about Burns? Benjiboi 16:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
In the 1994 episode " Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy" When Lisa seeks Smithers for help in contacting the inventor of Malibu Stacey, Smithers gets the information from his home computer. Smithers is president of the Malibu Stacy Fan Club and has the largest Malibu Stacy collection in Springfield and even shoved kids out of the way to get the new Malibu Stacy doll. In " Homer vs. Dignity" Smithers asked for a week off to "make my dream come true" and mount 'Malibu Stacy, The Musical' at the Albuquerque Theater in New Mexico. With himself in the role of a Ken look-alike Smithers and a Malibu Stacy look-alike actress sit on the hood of a pink Corvette for their duet "Sold Separately"
Smithers: Sold separately, Sometimes I feel like I've been Sold separately. But out of the box I find you poseable ... [turns to Stacy] Stacy: Loveable ... [turns to Smithers] Both: Just ... like ... me. [cut to a bored man in the audience, and his wife] Man: This is better than a movie ... why?
There was no closure or any other reference to the musical so the audience is left to assume the musical had its run and closed within the week with Smithers able to be back to the nuclear plant for the following week's episode. Benjiboi 18:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
The following has been removed and I imagine will get re-removed so will hold out re-adding for the time being but did want to document it rather than having to dig through the history to find it. During the thirteenth season, in " Jaws Wired Shut", a gay pride parade went past the Simpson’s house with one of the floats, "Stayin' in the closet", showing two people's arms waving from inside a closet stating "We're gay, we're glad. But don't tell mom and dad." The voices are of Smithers and Patty Bouvier. In " There's Something About Marrying" Bouvier came out. Benjiboi 19:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
If specific references are noteworthy because they marked a significant moment in the character's development, they should be included. Also, if those references had a significant tie-in to a major social or cultural trend of the times, and/or were tied to a significantly discussed event (by the writers and producers especially), they should also be referenced. The reference being discussed at this moment, in this thread, is the one time that Smithers explicitly admits his homosexuality, and the context of it being from behind a closet door on top of a gay pride parade float draws in several cultural ironies that are unquestionably topical. And there was a later incident (as already mentioned here) where the writers and producers announced one of the characters would be coming out, and it gained substantial media coverage. It was no accident that speculation fell on the two characters (Patty and Smithers) who were part of this precise reference being discussed as 'one-off' - it was not. Therefore, the reference Seansinc is defending has proper weight, does meet the test of relevance, and should be included. If some of you feel this adds to an overall volume of gay content issue, then propose trimming something less relevant? (But again, if you were to weigh every time Smithers has been referenced or seen on the series, the majority would be connected to homosexuality. That's the canon. If that's what you have a problem with, then that's something else.) 201.6.69.127 20:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The article has achieved GA Status after being deemed as having passed the GA Criteria
Congratulations,
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Any ideas? Based on Troy McClure (which is an FA), I think the article needs some copyediting, and a better cultural influence section would be handy. He's had to have had some kind of positive impact on the LGBT community, so I guess we need to start looking. -- Scorpion 0422 01:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
No time to look at it now, will get to it later. [4] -- Scorpion 0422 04:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyone got any info about the name relation between Waylon Smithers and Wayland Smith? Could just be a coincidence, but vaguely interesting (to someone like myself who spents far too much time reading about the long dead people). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 ( talk) 03:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
The episode Sex, Pies, and Idiot Scrapes mentions that Smithers is about to have a commitment ceremony. I added a brief mention of this fact, and it was immediately removed. This is a pretty huge event in Smithers' life, and although we only know of it from a quick mention by Marge, it is canonical that the ceremony is planned. If he's planning a commitment ceremony, he's in a relationship (albeit off-screen). It should be mentioned. What do others think? Seansinc ( talk) 05:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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One thing that I'm always astounded by this article is that the category structure doesn't include one of the fictional LGBT character categories. While I am aware that, "officially", he is "Burns-sexual", exclusion from these categories for this fact to be unwise for several reasons:
was the second example I would've given in this WikiProject Council thread. The sexual/romantic attraction to Burns would certainly qualify it for categorisation.
Therefore, I propose that the article be included in one of the categories, at least. While I think that a case could be made for the " Fictional gay men" category, it would be acceptable to put him in the wider ranging "fictional LGBT characters" category because he's never officially come out. Sceptre ( talk) 23:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
This article is a mess, full of inaccuracies and missed information. I'll tidy it when I've got the energy.... Martyn Smith 18:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
24.161.100.215 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) made an changing "Waylon J. Smithers Jr." to "Waylon Jaylord Smithers Jr." and this was unnoticed for over a month until I reverted it. Obviously the "jaylord" is vandalism. I also took off the "jr.", as the Simpsons website lists him only as "Waylon Smithers." I'll delete all the J's and Juniors's until someone can find an official source using that title. JianLi 22:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
The jr. obviously comes from his father's name being also Walyon Smithers. Zé da Silva 17:33, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
ya but if his father is dead than he isn't a jr anymore hes the ONLY waylon smithers
Like Freddie Prinze Jr, his dad died but he still keeps the name. Davie4264 23:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the top picture be of Yellow Smithers? Black Smithers only exists for one episode. Lenzar 17:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Nitpicking here perhaps but this wikipedia article says that Smithers is a alum of Alpha Tau Omega. While on the list of Fictional fraternities and sororities he is listed as being a member of Alpha Tau. While there are many character bios of Smithers that say he was in a fraternity i can find none that list the name of the fraternity. Since i know that usually becuase of licensing rights most fictional characters are usually made to be members of fictional fraternities and every other greek organazation listed in the Simpsons are fictional i'm inclined to belive that this article is wrong and he is a Alpha Tau and the editior simply assumed Alpha Tau Omega. So for now I'm removing the ATO link and will re-write to indicate that he is simply a alum of a Greek organazation. However, hopefully someone can dig up a reference on the name of the Fraternity i think it's an intresting peice of trivia. Trey 17:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I have no Idea what you are talking about. Care to explain? Emi211 Emi211 06:54, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
in the personal life section of this article it has Smithers listed as a member of Alpha Tau Omega a national men's college social fraternity. In another article listed on wikipedia Fictional fraternities and sororities it has Smithers listed as a member of Alpha Tau, which doe not exist in real life. I was wondering which it was, if either, and if anyone had a reference to prove it. Untill this is resolved i removed the info from the article. The Sentence now currently reads He is an alumnus of a college Fraternity second line of the personal life section. does that clear it up? Trey 16:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Why was he black in the skin with blue coloured hair? Why is he not a black man now! Did he turn yellow when he started falling in love with his boss? Dying to find out, good day.
Waylon's dad is Waylon Sr. or Wayland? The article contradicts itself currently.
There is one episode in the Simpsons where Professor Frink welcomes Bart and Lisa to a machine based on astrology. Future Bart meets up with Smithers after saving Burns from Snake. Smithers is with a lady and Bart says something to the effect of "I thought you were...you know..." to which Smithers replies "Not as long as I take this shot," to which he promptly injects himself, flailing his arms and screaming "I LOVE BOOBIES!" I forgot which episode this is but if you can find out which one I think it would be an excellent addition to the "evidence" for Smithers' homosexuality. 70.252.14.113 12:16, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it ok to remove the large number of "gay allusions" from the Personal Life section since there is a whole separate section reserved for them anyway?
"Gay" is the preferred term by the gay community to refer to its members, especially male ones. "Homosexual" is generally disfavored. This is in line with Wikipedia's policy of using terminology favored by a group when referring to that group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabanks ( talk • contribs) 06:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
The correct way to make a singular noun possessive is to add 's to the end. This is true even if the original word ends in s. Thus: Smithers's and Burns's are the correct possessive forms of the names Smithers and Burns. I'm about to correct these in the article and am puttingvthis note here so folks will understand why. :) Aleta 03:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I'll quote my trusty Strunk & White (3rd ed., page 1):
"1. Form the possessive singular of nouns by adding 's.
Follow this rule whatever the final consonant. Thus write,
Charles's friend
Burns's poems
the witch's malice"
- Aleta 19:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
There's something not right about the use of 'creepy' here as an adjective. It is a matter of opinion whether a thing is 'creepy' or not, and so it isn't fact. The view that Burns' mansion is 'creepy' would vary among one reader to another.
There are a lot of duplicate facts and information in this article. If someone was so inclined, pehaps they could clean it up? Bahamut0013 19:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
A user has removed the LGBT project banner twice, even though he's obviously in love with Burns, who is a man. If you have a reason for removing the banner, please post it here for discussion. -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 06:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Since you all seem to be fighting so hard to keep the article as part of your project, I don't suppose any of you would actually like to HELP clean up and improve the article? -- Scorpion 0422 02:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes it was Future-Drama. There was another episode where the gay pride parade goes past the Simpson’s house, one of the floats is a closeted float and has two people waving from inside a closet saying "We're gay, we're glad. But don't tell mom and dad." One of them is Smithers the other one is Patty or Selma (I forget which one is which). That's going by voices alone, and I can't remember which episode it's in. -- Tyrfing 22:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
According to the character box, Smithers' hair color is blue in ONE episode. The image and section on "Black Smithers" show that he was black and had blue hair in Homer's Odyssey. However, I recently saw There's No Disgrace Like Home. In this episode, his hair is blue as well - and this clearly comes after Homer's Odyssey, as proven both by the episode list and the fact Smithers is not black here. So, to the best of my knowledge, Smithers' hair is blue in the first TWO episodes. 70.111.0.219 22:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
There was one allusion to Smithers' homosexuality in which Burns is washing his car and for some reason, Smithers catches fire, he screams to Burns to spray water on him screaming "I'm flaming!". Burns looks less than surprised. I can't remember this episode bu I know that I have seen this before. Reginmund 07:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that Smithers is named after Wayland's Smithy, or is the similarity just a coincidence? 195.137.79.247 14:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Given that there is a source for his first name in the commentaries, is it to far fetched to wonder if his last name came from Leonard Smithers? There is no reference in the article to that Smithers being gay, but he did publish John Addington Symonds book Male Love —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.180.156.58 ( talk) 14:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
In "My sister, my sitter" (S08E17), when Lisa visits Dr. Nick's confidential clinic and asks Mr. Smithers if she could go ahead of him, Mr. Smithers is shown to be the only waiting patient who is standing right in front an empty seat on the bench on which all the other patients are sitting. When he notes that he would rather have "this" taken care of as soon as possible, he is looking in the direction of his buttocks, possibly an allusion to anal stimulation with unintended results.-- 80.145.64.41 18:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Currently the first appearance section of the infobox says ""Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire" (Voice only) "Homer's Odyssey"", but I think it's unnecessary to mention both episodes. Which should be the one we mention? The first time we hear him (which aired first) or the first time we say the character? -- Scorpion 0422 04:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
The phrase Smithers has occasional fantasies about Burns seems misleading, haven't most (all?) Smithers' fantasies been about Burns? Benjiboi 16:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
In the 1994 episode " Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy" When Lisa seeks Smithers for help in contacting the inventor of Malibu Stacey, Smithers gets the information from his home computer. Smithers is president of the Malibu Stacy Fan Club and has the largest Malibu Stacy collection in Springfield and even shoved kids out of the way to get the new Malibu Stacy doll. In " Homer vs. Dignity" Smithers asked for a week off to "make my dream come true" and mount 'Malibu Stacy, The Musical' at the Albuquerque Theater in New Mexico. With himself in the role of a Ken look-alike Smithers and a Malibu Stacy look-alike actress sit on the hood of a pink Corvette for their duet "Sold Separately"
Smithers: Sold separately, Sometimes I feel like I've been Sold separately. But out of the box I find you poseable ... [turns to Stacy] Stacy: Loveable ... [turns to Smithers] Both: Just ... like ... me. [cut to a bored man in the audience, and his wife] Man: This is better than a movie ... why?
There was no closure or any other reference to the musical so the audience is left to assume the musical had its run and closed within the week with Smithers able to be back to the nuclear plant for the following week's episode. Benjiboi 18:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
The following has been removed and I imagine will get re-removed so will hold out re-adding for the time being but did want to document it rather than having to dig through the history to find it. During the thirteenth season, in " Jaws Wired Shut", a gay pride parade went past the Simpson’s house with one of the floats, "Stayin' in the closet", showing two people's arms waving from inside a closet stating "We're gay, we're glad. But don't tell mom and dad." The voices are of Smithers and Patty Bouvier. In " There's Something About Marrying" Bouvier came out. Benjiboi 19:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
If specific references are noteworthy because they marked a significant moment in the character's development, they should be included. Also, if those references had a significant tie-in to a major social or cultural trend of the times, and/or were tied to a significantly discussed event (by the writers and producers especially), they should also be referenced. The reference being discussed at this moment, in this thread, is the one time that Smithers explicitly admits his homosexuality, and the context of it being from behind a closet door on top of a gay pride parade float draws in several cultural ironies that are unquestionably topical. And there was a later incident (as already mentioned here) where the writers and producers announced one of the characters would be coming out, and it gained substantial media coverage. It was no accident that speculation fell on the two characters (Patty and Smithers) who were part of this precise reference being discussed as 'one-off' - it was not. Therefore, the reference Seansinc is defending has proper weight, does meet the test of relevance, and should be included. If some of you feel this adds to an overall volume of gay content issue, then propose trimming something less relevant? (But again, if you were to weigh every time Smithers has been referenced or seen on the series, the majority would be connected to homosexuality. That's the canon. If that's what you have a problem with, then that's something else.) 201.6.69.127 20:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The article has achieved GA Status after being deemed as having passed the GA Criteria
Congratulations,
Tovojolo 12:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Any ideas? Based on Troy McClure (which is an FA), I think the article needs some copyediting, and a better cultural influence section would be handy. He's had to have had some kind of positive impact on the LGBT community, so I guess we need to start looking. -- Scorpion 0422 01:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
No time to look at it now, will get to it later. [4] -- Scorpion 0422 04:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyone got any info about the name relation between Waylon Smithers and Wayland Smith? Could just be a coincidence, but vaguely interesting (to someone like myself who spents far too much time reading about the long dead people). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 ( talk) 03:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
The episode Sex, Pies, and Idiot Scrapes mentions that Smithers is about to have a commitment ceremony. I added a brief mention of this fact, and it was immediately removed. This is a pretty huge event in Smithers' life, and although we only know of it from a quick mention by Marge, it is canonical that the ceremony is planned. If he's planning a commitment ceremony, he's in a relationship (albeit off-screen). It should be mentioned. What do others think? Seansinc ( talk) 05:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:Smithers.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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One thing that I'm always astounded by this article is that the category structure doesn't include one of the fictional LGBT character categories. While I am aware that, "officially", he is "Burns-sexual", exclusion from these categories for this fact to be unwise for several reasons:
was the second example I would've given in this WikiProject Council thread. The sexual/romantic attraction to Burns would certainly qualify it for categorisation.
Therefore, I propose that the article be included in one of the categories, at least. While I think that a case could be made for the " Fictional gay men" category, it would be acceptable to put him in the wider ranging "fictional LGBT characters" category because he's never officially come out. Sceptre ( talk) 23:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)