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The statement from Jan Egland does not belong in the article, it does not refer to war-crimes and looks as if it has been used out of context by the Jerusalem Post. Then it's been then further clipped in the article to distort it's meaning. According to JPost, he siad "Consistently, from the Hizbullah heartland, my message was that Hizbullah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children." Leaving out the word "consistently" gives a false impression, in fact his statement is more of an attempt to prove his even handed-ness towards Hizbollah. Unless we have the whole thing it's impossible to know what he said. Even if Jan Egeland's statement belonged, it would not belong in the lead alongside measured statements. 86.180.56.216 ( talk) 06:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone else feel that the title of this article is not quite appropriate? 'Possible war crimes' just seems a bit vague to me - it suggests 'these events may be war crimes, they may not, but we're listing them here anyway'. That's not precise enough for an encyclopaedic article. How about renaming it to something like Allegations of war crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War, or War crimes allegations in the 2006 Lebanon War, or similar? That would emphasise the fact that this article should only list allegations supported by reliable sources. Robofish ( talk) 01:59, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Everyone in the world says it is. If nobody disagrees, I will restore the material cited to TNR within the next couple of days. -- GHcool ( talk) 23:31, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 10:09, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Allegations of war crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War → War crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War – That a war crime has occurred is a fact, not an allegation. See MOS:ALLEGED
Also, other articles do not have the word "Allegations of". Parham wiki ( talk) 12:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
— Relisting. Reading Beans ( talk) 08:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 ( talk) 20:57, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Allegations of war crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War → War crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War – The prime reason is WP:CONSISTENCY with virtually all other articles about war crimes: War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war, War crimes in the Kosovo War, War crimes in World War I, War crimes in the Tigray War, War crimes in the Korean War, War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, War crimes during the final stages of the Sri Lankan Civil War, War crimes in the Syrian civil war, War crimes in the Second Nagorno-Karabakh War, etc., etc. Not a single article, except this one, uses the term "alleged" or "allegations".
The second reason is that the current title borders editorialising. Wikipedia titles denote topics/concepts/events/phenomena, not our opinions about them. Thus, we have Frexit, not: "Theoretical Frexit"; Danish withdrawal from the European Union, not: "Proposed Danish withdrawal from the European Union"; Korean reunification, not: "Ideas of Korean reunification"; Flat Earth, not: "Disproven flat earth theory"; and so on. The article title must not be seen in the categories of true/false – a page title is there to denote a topic, and not to pass a judgment about it. — kashmīrī TALK 00:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 16:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Lightoil ( talk) 17:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
conclusive proofthat these things are true or have happened. Yet the vagueness of such concepts doesn't have to be put in the title. — kashmīrī TALK 19:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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The image Image:Tyre Mass Graves (PBS NewsHour).png is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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The statement from Jan Egland does not belong in the article, it does not refer to war-crimes and looks as if it has been used out of context by the Jerusalem Post. Then it's been then further clipped in the article to distort it's meaning. According to JPost, he siad "Consistently, from the Hizbullah heartland, my message was that Hizbullah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children." Leaving out the word "consistently" gives a false impression, in fact his statement is more of an attempt to prove his even handed-ness towards Hizbollah. Unless we have the whole thing it's impossible to know what he said. Even if Jan Egeland's statement belonged, it would not belong in the lead alongside measured statements. 86.180.56.216 ( talk) 06:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone else feel that the title of this article is not quite appropriate? 'Possible war crimes' just seems a bit vague to me - it suggests 'these events may be war crimes, they may not, but we're listing them here anyway'. That's not precise enough for an encyclopaedic article. How about renaming it to something like Allegations of war crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War, or War crimes allegations in the 2006 Lebanon War, or similar? That would emphasise the fact that this article should only list allegations supported by reliable sources. Robofish ( talk) 01:59, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Everyone in the world says it is. If nobody disagrees, I will restore the material cited to TNR within the next couple of days. -- GHcool ( talk) 23:31, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 10:09, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Allegations of war crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War → War crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War – That a war crime has occurred is a fact, not an allegation. See MOS:ALLEGED
Also, other articles do not have the word "Allegations of". Parham wiki ( talk) 12:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
— Relisting. Reading Beans ( talk) 08:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 ( talk) 20:57, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Allegations of war crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War → War crimes in the 2006 Lebanon War – The prime reason is WP:CONSISTENCY with virtually all other articles about war crimes: War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war, War crimes in the Kosovo War, War crimes in World War I, War crimes in the Tigray War, War crimes in the Korean War, War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, War crimes during the final stages of the Sri Lankan Civil War, War crimes in the Syrian civil war, War crimes in the Second Nagorno-Karabakh War, etc., etc. Not a single article, except this one, uses the term "alleged" or "allegations".
The second reason is that the current title borders editorialising. Wikipedia titles denote topics/concepts/events/phenomena, not our opinions about them. Thus, we have Frexit, not: "Theoretical Frexit"; Danish withdrawal from the European Union, not: "Proposed Danish withdrawal from the European Union"; Korean reunification, not: "Ideas of Korean reunification"; Flat Earth, not: "Disproven flat earth theory"; and so on. The article title must not be seen in the categories of true/false – a page title is there to denote a topic, and not to pass a judgment about it. — kashmīrī TALK 00:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 16:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Lightoil ( talk) 17:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
conclusive proofthat these things are true or have happened. Yet the vagueness of such concepts doesn't have to be put in the title. — kashmīrī TALK 19:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)