Duplicate links; Alan Shepard Done, Deke Slayton Done, Gus Grissom Done, NASA Done, Mercury Seven Done, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Done, Oradell, New Jersey Done.
Balon Greyjoy (
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13:51, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
There's no alt text on the air medal, which is needed because the medals are shown with no indication of that they are. Personally, I would prefer the infobox had the names of the awards instead of their images
Done I had left up the medals from previous editors, but I like your feedback of changing it to the names (even with 2 Air Medals myself, I had a hard time recognizing what it was from the small PNG image).
Balon Greyjoy (
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13:41, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Early life and education
Mention his sister.
Reading through "Schirra's Space," as well as his official NASA biography and obituary, I am not reading anything about a sister. I'd be happy to include it, but I am not seeing any information about her.
Balon Greyjoy (
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13:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Georgia Lou. See Burgess, Sigma 7 (2016), p. 7. She married a Naval officer, John Durham.
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"Following the attack on Pearl Harbor" When was this?
"Schirra flew 90 combat missions and downed two MiG-15s." Is this how he earned the Distinguished Flying Cross? (And the Air Medals?) The article doesn't say.
Down in the Awards section it lists the Distinguished Flying Cross as the award for his escort of B-29 bombers during the war, as well as his subsequent spaceflights. The US Air Medal is awarded for the completion of 20 air combat missions.
Balon Greyjoy (
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14:15, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
"Along with Scott Carpenter, Schirra flew in an F-106 Delta Dart chase plane" I think you'll find that they flew in two separate chase planes. DoneBalon Greyjoy (
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14:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
I feel that the article fails to mention Schirra's re-orientation of Sigma 7 to engineering experiments, partly as a reaction against carpenter's flight, but also in Schirra's nature, as highlighted by the later
"At the beginning of the Gemini program, Alan Shepard was originally" Tautology here, with "at the beginning" and "originally". Remove one. DoneBalon Greyjoy (
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14:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
"Schirra activated the explosive hatch to egress the aircraft" He got a large bruise, proving that Gus Grissom had not activated in on Mercury 4, and was therefore not to blame for the subsequent loss of Liberty Bell 7.
The measurement given by Schirra in his book is 'four and a half miles.' I can't find any source that specifies the type of miles, but my assumption is nautical miles, as he is at sea and the measurement was likely given to him by the navigators on board the ship. The converted units I edited were for nautical miles.
Balon Greyjoy (
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14:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
While I am all in support of using metric everywhere (as an American, I don't understand why the change to metric wasn't decades ago), is using metric now the standard for Wikipedia? If so, I was unaware of it, and will be sure to use metric in future edits.
Balon Greyjoy (
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14:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
The standard is to use the convert template everywhere. The advantage of this shows up in cases like the above. It gets you thinking about what kind of miles, tons or pints you are talking about. Some measurements like electric current or the weight of fissile materials have no imperial equivalent, so no conversion is required. It's still okay to use stones for weight and chains for distance, per the original source, though. Some editors like to see the article consistently put metric first (which the convert template can facilitate), but this is not required by the MOS, and GA articles do not have to comply with the whole MOS.
Hawkeye7(discuss)21:22, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
"The mission was again delayed, until Gemini 6A lifted off on December 15." Yes, but not as long as it would have been delayed if Schirra had hit the ejection button. Your article makes it sound like he made the wrong call, when in fact his decision was the correct one.
Apollo 7. Schirra had never flown a mission this long before, and was cranky. While the article mentions that he later received a NASA Distinguished Service Medal posthumously (in 2008), the fact was that the Apollo 7 crew was the only one not to receive the medal after their flight. Neither Eisele nor Cunningham ever flew again.
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Hawkeye7: I'm confused by this comment; are you looking for me to add information about how the crew did not receive the standard medals, nor fly again? I know about the circumstances of the Apollo 7/Mission Control divide, but sources on both sides (Schirra, Gene Kranz, Chris Kraft) voice differing opinions on whether the crew was snubbed or appropriately reprimanded.
Balon Greyjoy (
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15:15, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
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Hawkeye7: I have completed making your recommended edits (other than the few clarifications I asked for above). Thanks for reviewing my article, and looking forward to making any further suggested changes.
Balon Greyjoy (
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15:17, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Okay, that is fine. (I have made some minor changes.) Passing now. The article meets GA standards, but if you want to go to FAC, it will require more work. If you want to pursue that path, I suggest nominating at A-class on MilHist first. In the meantime, now that it is a Good Article, why not nominate it for DYK?
Hawkeye7(discuss)21:22, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Duplicate links; Alan Shepard Done, Deke Slayton Done, Gus Grissom Done, NASA Done, Mercury Seven Done, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Done, Oradell, New Jersey Done.
Balon Greyjoy (
talk)
13:51, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
There's no alt text on the air medal, which is needed because the medals are shown with no indication of that they are. Personally, I would prefer the infobox had the names of the awards instead of their images
Done I had left up the medals from previous editors, but I like your feedback of changing it to the names (even with 2 Air Medals myself, I had a hard time recognizing what it was from the small PNG image).
Balon Greyjoy (
talk)
13:41, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Early life and education
Mention his sister.
Reading through "Schirra's Space," as well as his official NASA biography and obituary, I am not reading anything about a sister. I'd be happy to include it, but I am not seeing any information about her.
Balon Greyjoy (
talk)
13:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Georgia Lou. See Burgess, Sigma 7 (2016), p. 7. She married a Naval officer, John Durham.
[1]
"Following the attack on Pearl Harbor" When was this?
"Schirra flew 90 combat missions and downed two MiG-15s." Is this how he earned the Distinguished Flying Cross? (And the Air Medals?) The article doesn't say.
Down in the Awards section it lists the Distinguished Flying Cross as the award for his escort of B-29 bombers during the war, as well as his subsequent spaceflights. The US Air Medal is awarded for the completion of 20 air combat missions.
Balon Greyjoy (
talk)
14:15, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
"Along with Scott Carpenter, Schirra flew in an F-106 Delta Dart chase plane" I think you'll find that they flew in two separate chase planes. DoneBalon Greyjoy (
talk)
14:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
I feel that the article fails to mention Schirra's re-orientation of Sigma 7 to engineering experiments, partly as a reaction against carpenter's flight, but also in Schirra's nature, as highlighted by the later
"At the beginning of the Gemini program, Alan Shepard was originally" Tautology here, with "at the beginning" and "originally". Remove one. DoneBalon Greyjoy (
talk)
14:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
"Schirra activated the explosive hatch to egress the aircraft" He got a large bruise, proving that Gus Grissom had not activated in on Mercury 4, and was therefore not to blame for the subsequent loss of Liberty Bell 7.
The measurement given by Schirra in his book is 'four and a half miles.' I can't find any source that specifies the type of miles, but my assumption is nautical miles, as he is at sea and the measurement was likely given to him by the navigators on board the ship. The converted units I edited were for nautical miles.
Balon Greyjoy (
talk)
14:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
While I am all in support of using metric everywhere (as an American, I don't understand why the change to metric wasn't decades ago), is using metric now the standard for Wikipedia? If so, I was unaware of it, and will be sure to use metric in future edits.
Balon Greyjoy (
talk)
14:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
The standard is to use the convert template everywhere. The advantage of this shows up in cases like the above. It gets you thinking about what kind of miles, tons or pints you are talking about. Some measurements like electric current or the weight of fissile materials have no imperial equivalent, so no conversion is required. It's still okay to use stones for weight and chains for distance, per the original source, though. Some editors like to see the article consistently put metric first (which the convert template can facilitate), but this is not required by the MOS, and GA articles do not have to comply with the whole MOS.
Hawkeye7(discuss)21:22, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
"The mission was again delayed, until Gemini 6A lifted off on December 15." Yes, but not as long as it would have been delayed if Schirra had hit the ejection button. Your article makes it sound like he made the wrong call, when in fact his decision was the correct one.
Apollo 7. Schirra had never flown a mission this long before, and was cranky. While the article mentions that he later received a NASA Distinguished Service Medal posthumously (in 2008), the fact was that the Apollo 7 crew was the only one not to receive the medal after their flight. Neither Eisele nor Cunningham ever flew again.
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Hawkeye7: I'm confused by this comment; are you looking for me to add information about how the crew did not receive the standard medals, nor fly again? I know about the circumstances of the Apollo 7/Mission Control divide, but sources on both sides (Schirra, Gene Kranz, Chris Kraft) voice differing opinions on whether the crew was snubbed or appropriately reprimanded.
Balon Greyjoy (
talk)
15:15, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
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Hawkeye7: I have completed making your recommended edits (other than the few clarifications I asked for above). Thanks for reviewing my article, and looking forward to making any further suggested changes.
Balon Greyjoy (
talk)
15:17, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Okay, that is fine. (I have made some minor changes.) Passing now. The article meets GA standards, but if you want to go to FAC, it will require more work. If you want to pursue that path, I suggest nominating at A-class on MilHist first. In the meantime, now that it is a Good Article, why not nominate it for DYK?
Hawkeye7(discuss)21:22, 20 May 2018 (UTC)reply