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Someone proficient at "dab" may like to note in the standard manner that "Waikato" is a river, a tribe or subtribe, a dialect, part of the names of two territorial authority districts and one regional council and probably a number of other statutory bodies, and the name of at least one chief prominent in the 19th century (currently linked to this article at " Maori language"). I don't know whether any of those need separate pages. I see " Waikato River" has one; and I wouldn't propose to merge it with this. Robin Patterson 00:47, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Waikato the region is by far the most common use of the word Waikato, so following convention it should be kept at Waikato.
The councils aren't named just "Waikato" but have Waikato in their name so there is no need to disambiguate them. And as they are in the Waikato I don't see why they can't be mentioned in this article.
The chief can have his own article with link to it from this article. I'm not aware of a Waikato dialect, I did a quick search and couldn't find anything about a dialect called Waikato. I'm not sure about Waikato tribe, how does it differ from Tainui? -- Popsracer 11:48, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I was rather hoping to distinguish Waikato Region from Waikato District, so that we will end up with a separate article for each local government unit.
I imagine people will want to put facts and figures in these geographical articles and it helps to have the extent of the area well defined. We already have joint articles for territorial authorities that share the name of their main town ("Auckland", "Whangarei", "Gisborne"). That's mainly because people often don't make the distinction between a city and its local government unit, so it's almost as confusing to separate them as it is to keep them in one article.
Actually I've been thinking it might be better to use "X District" for all the districts that don't share an article with their main town. So you'd have "Mackenzie District", "Waikato District" and "Kapiti Coast District", but "Gore", "Waimate" (and "Marlborough" because it's a region as well as a district).
If we did this we could have a page for "Waikato" and a page for "Waikato District". How would that strike you?
It would be a lot of work, but it's better done before most of the pages get fleshed out. I could dedicate a night to it (and create stubs for the territorial authorities that haven't got them). I've found a free source for boundary maps so we can have maps on each article too.
Maybe we should discuss this all on the project page Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand places and come up with an agreed list of territorial authority/regional article names, and then go forth and conquer.
Ben Arnold 23:29, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I'm getting fed up with having to continually revert assertions by a couple of anons that the term "Mooloo" started thanks to a variation of the "Ole ole" soccer chant being used for the Waikato Rugby team. Since the soccer chant started after the 1982 World Cup in Spain, and the word Mooloo's been around for at least 50 years, I find this patently ridiculous. if anyone has information to the contrary, though, I'd be happy to listen. I'd also be happy if others would keep an eye on this problem on the page... Grutness... wha? 07:18, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Some wikiholic really should give this article a list of the districts that are wholly or partly in the region. I think there are ten. It was annoying to come here expecting to get a quick link to one and not find it. Robin Patterson 05:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
The result of the move request was moved to Waikato. GrooveDog ( talk) ( Review) 20:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Waikato (region/district) →
Waikato — Waikato is the common name for this region, which is the primary meaning of the term.
Waikato already redirects here. Right now, there's a very confusing title for this page, which is unnecessary disambiguation.
YeshuaDavid •
Talk •
00:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Waikato (region/district) → Waikato Region — Originally requested that this page be moved to just "Waikato", but, after arguments made on the prevuious request, and shifting about the internet a bit, I think the term is too ambiguous. "Waikato Region" is used on Waikato's tourist website here, and seems to be fairly common. The current page dates from when the Waikato District was included in the article. YeshuaDavid • Talk • 20:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Waikato (region/district) → ? — Unarchived first part of this debate and changed requested move target to "?", to reflect the uncertainty of what to call this article. YeshuaDavid • Talk • 23:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
It appears that we have consensus to move this article to "Waikato", with dissent from Una Smith. This discussion has been advertised at WP:RM, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand and WP:NZWNB, so I think we've got all the opinions we're likely to.
The fork of part of the article to Waikato Region during the debate, while in good faith, was not helpful. Unless I hear good reasons to the contrary in the next 24 hours, I propose to move this article to Waikato and merge the contents of Waikato Region back into it. The latter article will become a redirect.- gadfium 20:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I query the use of the lonely planet reference (currently [4]). This is a tourist book not a reliable source for Wikipedia. I am happy to have another more reputable reference in its place. Comments before it is removed? Mari370 ( talk) 13:00, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
My apologies if I have stepped on anyones toes. Just edited part of the article to make it regionally focused. Some of the content seemed to confuse the current Waikato Region (as enacted by the Local Government Act 1989) with a more historic, generic and inconsistent understanding of Waikato. Mari370 ( talk) 13:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Also corrected the changes from the Auckland City restructuring that dissolved the Franklin District. Mari370 ( talk) 13:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I see people got themselves into a bit of a knot on this page two years ago. Pity I wasn't watching at the time. Never mind. Back to my comments above of 15 Oct 2004. I suggested this article would have to be renamed Waikato Region, and that's been done. The way is open to create a new article about the Waikato itself, the area covered by Te Ara at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato. It clearly distinguishes between the Waikato and the Waikato regional council area at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato-region/1. And there's a useful map of the Waikato at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato-places. The best name for the article is Waikato. Nurg ( talk) 06:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Northland Region which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 22:59, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 17:05, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
Waikato Region → Waikato – The actual name of the region does not include "Region", it is just "Waikato". (On the other hand, it is possible to find some sources, even governmental ones, that do include the capitalized "Region", but I believe they are in a distinct minority.) Waikato already redirects here and is the primary meaning of the word (the other meanings are already at Waikato (disambiguation)). The article was renamed "Waikato" via a 2009 discussion, but it was later moved without a discussion on this page. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:21, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have a reference to a dictionary listing /ˈwaɪkɑːtɔː/ as an accepted / common pronunciation? Never heard it before. Abgar eabe ghu ( talk) 03:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
The article mentions: ...Chief Te Whero whero did not sign... is it possible the name should be TE WARU as on the picture published in The New Zealanders Illustrated by George French Angas? Thank you for your time. Lotje ( talk) 15:33, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
What should be the criteria for being in this list, rather than in the articles for individual locations? For example, should the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition be in?
Notable people are treated differently in articles on other regions. Most (Auckland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Bay, Manawatū-Whanganui, Wellington, Tasman, Marlborough, West Coast, Canterbury, Otago, Southland) have nothing. Northland, Taranaki and Nelson have a category. So I'd prefer to follow the majority and delete this section, though moving any not covered elsewhere to the relevant location. What do you think? Johnragla ( talk) 17:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Someone proficient at "dab" may like to note in the standard manner that "Waikato" is a river, a tribe or subtribe, a dialect, part of the names of two territorial authority districts and one regional council and probably a number of other statutory bodies, and the name of at least one chief prominent in the 19th century (currently linked to this article at " Maori language"). I don't know whether any of those need separate pages. I see " Waikato River" has one; and I wouldn't propose to merge it with this. Robin Patterson 00:47, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Waikato the region is by far the most common use of the word Waikato, so following convention it should be kept at Waikato.
The councils aren't named just "Waikato" but have Waikato in their name so there is no need to disambiguate them. And as they are in the Waikato I don't see why they can't be mentioned in this article.
The chief can have his own article with link to it from this article. I'm not aware of a Waikato dialect, I did a quick search and couldn't find anything about a dialect called Waikato. I'm not sure about Waikato tribe, how does it differ from Tainui? -- Popsracer 11:48, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I was rather hoping to distinguish Waikato Region from Waikato District, so that we will end up with a separate article for each local government unit.
I imagine people will want to put facts and figures in these geographical articles and it helps to have the extent of the area well defined. We already have joint articles for territorial authorities that share the name of their main town ("Auckland", "Whangarei", "Gisborne"). That's mainly because people often don't make the distinction between a city and its local government unit, so it's almost as confusing to separate them as it is to keep them in one article.
Actually I've been thinking it might be better to use "X District" for all the districts that don't share an article with their main town. So you'd have "Mackenzie District", "Waikato District" and "Kapiti Coast District", but "Gore", "Waimate" (and "Marlborough" because it's a region as well as a district).
If we did this we could have a page for "Waikato" and a page for "Waikato District". How would that strike you?
It would be a lot of work, but it's better done before most of the pages get fleshed out. I could dedicate a night to it (and create stubs for the territorial authorities that haven't got them). I've found a free source for boundary maps so we can have maps on each article too.
Maybe we should discuss this all on the project page Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand places and come up with an agreed list of territorial authority/regional article names, and then go forth and conquer.
Ben Arnold 23:29, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I'm getting fed up with having to continually revert assertions by a couple of anons that the term "Mooloo" started thanks to a variation of the "Ole ole" soccer chant being used for the Waikato Rugby team. Since the soccer chant started after the 1982 World Cup in Spain, and the word Mooloo's been around for at least 50 years, I find this patently ridiculous. if anyone has information to the contrary, though, I'd be happy to listen. I'd also be happy if others would keep an eye on this problem on the page... Grutness... wha? 07:18, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Some wikiholic really should give this article a list of the districts that are wholly or partly in the region. I think there are ten. It was annoying to come here expecting to get a quick link to one and not find it. Robin Patterson 05:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
The result of the move request was moved to Waikato. GrooveDog ( talk) ( Review) 20:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Waikato (region/district) →
Waikato — Waikato is the common name for this region, which is the primary meaning of the term.
Waikato already redirects here. Right now, there's a very confusing title for this page, which is unnecessary disambiguation.
YeshuaDavid •
Talk •
00:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Waikato (region/district) → Waikato Region — Originally requested that this page be moved to just "Waikato", but, after arguments made on the prevuious request, and shifting about the internet a bit, I think the term is too ambiguous. "Waikato Region" is used on Waikato's tourist website here, and seems to be fairly common. The current page dates from when the Waikato District was included in the article. YeshuaDavid • Talk • 20:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Waikato (region/district) → ? — Unarchived first part of this debate and changed requested move target to "?", to reflect the uncertainty of what to call this article. YeshuaDavid • Talk • 23:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
It appears that we have consensus to move this article to "Waikato", with dissent from Una Smith. This discussion has been advertised at WP:RM, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand and WP:NZWNB, so I think we've got all the opinions we're likely to.
The fork of part of the article to Waikato Region during the debate, while in good faith, was not helpful. Unless I hear good reasons to the contrary in the next 24 hours, I propose to move this article to Waikato and merge the contents of Waikato Region back into it. The latter article will become a redirect.- gadfium 20:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I query the use of the lonely planet reference (currently [4]). This is a tourist book not a reliable source for Wikipedia. I am happy to have another more reputable reference in its place. Comments before it is removed? Mari370 ( talk) 13:00, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
My apologies if I have stepped on anyones toes. Just edited part of the article to make it regionally focused. Some of the content seemed to confuse the current Waikato Region (as enacted by the Local Government Act 1989) with a more historic, generic and inconsistent understanding of Waikato. Mari370 ( talk) 13:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Also corrected the changes from the Auckland City restructuring that dissolved the Franklin District. Mari370 ( talk) 13:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I see people got themselves into a bit of a knot on this page two years ago. Pity I wasn't watching at the time. Never mind. Back to my comments above of 15 Oct 2004. I suggested this article would have to be renamed Waikato Region, and that's been done. The way is open to create a new article about the Waikato itself, the area covered by Te Ara at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato. It clearly distinguishes between the Waikato and the Waikato regional council area at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato-region/1. And there's a useful map of the Waikato at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato-places. The best name for the article is Waikato. Nurg ( talk) 06:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Northland Region which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 22:59, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 17:05, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
Waikato Region → Waikato – The actual name of the region does not include "Region", it is just "Waikato". (On the other hand, it is possible to find some sources, even governmental ones, that do include the capitalized "Region", but I believe they are in a distinct minority.) Waikato already redirects here and is the primary meaning of the word (the other meanings are already at Waikato (disambiguation)). The article was renamed "Waikato" via a 2009 discussion, but it was later moved without a discussion on this page. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:21, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have a reference to a dictionary listing /ˈwaɪkɑːtɔː/ as an accepted / common pronunciation? Never heard it before. Abgar eabe ghu ( talk) 03:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
The article mentions: ...Chief Te Whero whero did not sign... is it possible the name should be TE WARU as on the picture published in The New Zealanders Illustrated by George French Angas? Thank you for your time. Lotje ( talk) 15:33, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
What should be the criteria for being in this list, rather than in the articles for individual locations? For example, should the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition be in?
Notable people are treated differently in articles on other regions. Most (Auckland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Bay, Manawatū-Whanganui, Wellington, Tasman, Marlborough, West Coast, Canterbury, Otago, Southland) have nothing. Northland, Taranaki and Nelson have a category. So I'd prefer to follow the majority and delete this section, though moving any not covered elsewhere to the relevant location. What do you think? Johnragla ( talk) 17:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Otago which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 00:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)