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Looking for a link for the 2015 Grandmothers' Declaration which is all over social media esp facebook but seems not to be formally published on any website of any authoritative source.
Also wondering if this source which is from a blog but also widely republished and referenced is suitable for this article.
Much of the literature seems to be moving around these sources, and there is a dearth of mainstream reporting, as is common on indigenous issues anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.212.125.141 ( talk) 20:07, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone know why the Yucatan peninsula is what is shown on the map here? Smashrgrl ( talk) 05:12, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GrahamSlam: About the image you added to the infobox: [1]. When was this flag adopted and/or in use? Do you have a link to a site or source about it? I did an image search and nothing is coming up. If we're going to use it we should source it. Thanks! - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 18:03, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
On March 26, 2018 fours edits by 130.111.64.111 removed the Abenaki from the Wabanaki Confederacy. No reasons were given and no citations supplied. Seems suspicious to me. Vandalism? WikiParker ( talk) 13:42, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
The article begins by talking about the First Nations and Native American tribes and then uses "tribes" the entire length. Would it not be more applicable to use both varied throughout? To a Canadian (and many others around the world), for example, the Mi'kmaq form a nation not simply a tribe. Indeed, ample evidence suggests that the use of "tribe" elicits correlation with inferiority compared with larger, more mainstream nations, due to the intense propaganda arising from the invasion and colonial-settlement periods. Please consider analyzing what terms appear in the article with regard to nationhood and how such political entities would be represented be them from Eurasia -- Danachos ( talk) 05:06, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the great info. In the US there lots of words that are used in the vaguer sense but "tribe" or "band" is pretty universal for specific groups including for self-identification. (e.g. tribal government, tribal police etc.) I don't know what that means for the article, I'm just talking. North8000 ( talk) 17:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
I am going to find the copyrighted section. The rest of the article should be unblocked.
Copyrighted section: The Passamaquoddy wampum records describe that there were once fourteen tribes, along with many bands, that were once part of the Confederation. [1]: 117 Native tribes such as the Norridgewock, Etchemin, and Canibas, through massacres, tribal consolidation, and ethnic label shifting were absorbed into the five larger national identities.
Notice: This section is a potential copyright issue. I removed the problematic section because no one would fix the issue as quickly as possible.
Copyrighted link (removed): [1]: 117
Another copyrighted section: By the 1640s, internal conflicts within the region started to make Iroquois advances harder to combat for what would become the Wabanaki peoples, but also the Algonquian (tribe west of Quebec City), the Innu, and French to manage separately. Aided by French Jesuits, this led to the formation of a large Algonquian league against the Iroquois, who were making significant territorial land gains around the Great Lakes and Saint Lawrence River region. By the 1660s, tribes of Western Abenaki peoples as far south as Massachusetts had joined the league. This defensive alliance would not only prove to be successful, but it helped repair the relationship among the Eastern Algonquians, promoting greater political cooperation in the coming decades.[1]:124
[1]:124 is the copyrighted mark. It should be scrapped off the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ant1234567 ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
References
According to the John Cabot article, no one is sure where Cabot landed, what happened to him on his last known voyage, or whether he ever came back. We don't know if he ever met any Mi'kmaq, or fought with any natives, AFAICT. This article claims he kidnapped and fought with, and was defeated by, Mi'kmaq, citing a blogpost with no references. It appears to be pure speculation. 70.77.37.23 ( talk) 19:52, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi @ Remsense: I see you reverted my edit adding Morgan Talty's book based on the Penobscot Indian Island Reservation as "promotional". Isn't the "popular culture" section intended to demonstrate exactly where the topic enters popular culture? Just as mentions of the artist Jeremy Frey is listed ( https://www.portlandmuseum.org/magazine/jeremy-frey-woven), Talty's book won enormous critical reception and brought the Penobscot to major popular and cultural consciousness. If this is "promotional" and so falls out of the scope of pop culture mentions on wiki (and the videogame reference is not), I'm not sure what counts eligible for documenting as "pop culture" at all! More on Talty: https://downeast.com/arts-leisure/morgan-talty-night-of-the-living-rez/, https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a60847601/blood-quantum/, https://lithub.com/morgan-talty-on-indigenous-literature-penobscot-culture-and-the-villain-of-colonialism/ Thanks! Psychopomplemousse ( talk) 15:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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Looking for a link for the 2015 Grandmothers' Declaration which is all over social media esp facebook but seems not to be formally published on any website of any authoritative source.
Also wondering if this source which is from a blog but also widely republished and referenced is suitable for this article.
Much of the literature seems to be moving around these sources, and there is a dearth of mainstream reporting, as is common on indigenous issues anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.212.125.141 ( talk) 20:07, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone know why the Yucatan peninsula is what is shown on the map here? Smashrgrl ( talk) 05:12, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GrahamSlam: About the image you added to the infobox: [1]. When was this flag adopted and/or in use? Do you have a link to a site or source about it? I did an image search and nothing is coming up. If we're going to use it we should source it. Thanks! - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 18:03, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
On March 26, 2018 fours edits by 130.111.64.111 removed the Abenaki from the Wabanaki Confederacy. No reasons were given and no citations supplied. Seems suspicious to me. Vandalism? WikiParker ( talk) 13:42, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
The article begins by talking about the First Nations and Native American tribes and then uses "tribes" the entire length. Would it not be more applicable to use both varied throughout? To a Canadian (and many others around the world), for example, the Mi'kmaq form a nation not simply a tribe. Indeed, ample evidence suggests that the use of "tribe" elicits correlation with inferiority compared with larger, more mainstream nations, due to the intense propaganda arising from the invasion and colonial-settlement periods. Please consider analyzing what terms appear in the article with regard to nationhood and how such political entities would be represented be them from Eurasia -- Danachos ( talk) 05:06, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the great info. In the US there lots of words that are used in the vaguer sense but "tribe" or "band" is pretty universal for specific groups including for self-identification. (e.g. tribal government, tribal police etc.) I don't know what that means for the article, I'm just talking. North8000 ( talk) 17:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
I am going to find the copyrighted section. The rest of the article should be unblocked.
Copyrighted section: The Passamaquoddy wampum records describe that there were once fourteen tribes, along with many bands, that were once part of the Confederation. [1]: 117 Native tribes such as the Norridgewock, Etchemin, and Canibas, through massacres, tribal consolidation, and ethnic label shifting were absorbed into the five larger national identities.
Notice: This section is a potential copyright issue. I removed the problematic section because no one would fix the issue as quickly as possible.
Copyrighted link (removed): [1]: 117
Another copyrighted section: By the 1640s, internal conflicts within the region started to make Iroquois advances harder to combat for what would become the Wabanaki peoples, but also the Algonquian (tribe west of Quebec City), the Innu, and French to manage separately. Aided by French Jesuits, this led to the formation of a large Algonquian league against the Iroquois, who were making significant territorial land gains around the Great Lakes and Saint Lawrence River region. By the 1660s, tribes of Western Abenaki peoples as far south as Massachusetts had joined the league. This defensive alliance would not only prove to be successful, but it helped repair the relationship among the Eastern Algonquians, promoting greater political cooperation in the coming decades.[1]:124
[1]:124 is the copyrighted mark. It should be scrapped off the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ant1234567 ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
References
According to the John Cabot article, no one is sure where Cabot landed, what happened to him on his last known voyage, or whether he ever came back. We don't know if he ever met any Mi'kmaq, or fought with any natives, AFAICT. This article claims he kidnapped and fought with, and was defeated by, Mi'kmaq, citing a blogpost with no references. It appears to be pure speculation. 70.77.37.23 ( talk) 19:52, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi @ Remsense: I see you reverted my edit adding Morgan Talty's book based on the Penobscot Indian Island Reservation as "promotional". Isn't the "popular culture" section intended to demonstrate exactly where the topic enters popular culture? Just as mentions of the artist Jeremy Frey is listed ( https://www.portlandmuseum.org/magazine/jeremy-frey-woven), Talty's book won enormous critical reception and brought the Penobscot to major popular and cultural consciousness. If this is "promotional" and so falls out of the scope of pop culture mentions on wiki (and the videogame reference is not), I'm not sure what counts eligible for documenting as "pop culture" at all! More on Talty: https://downeast.com/arts-leisure/morgan-talty-night-of-the-living-rez/, https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a60847601/blood-quantum/, https://lithub.com/morgan-talty-on-indigenous-literature-penobscot-culture-and-the-villain-of-colonialism/ Thanks! Psychopomplemousse ( talk) 15:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)