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are you soure WAVE is an acronym and not a backronym¡? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.161.61.85 ( talk) 01:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I moved the following paragraph here because I could not verify it. Sources I've seen indicate that the WAVES were disbanded after WWII:
The WAVES continued to serve through the Vietnam War. WAVES officer candidates were trained for 16 weeks at the Newport, Rhode Island Naval Base. Enlisted WAVES were trained at United States Naval Training Center Bainbridge. During the 1970's consideration was given to allowing WAVES to serve aboard ships. Ultimately, LT Valerie Zeller, USNR, was assigned to two weeks reserve duty aboard the USS Sanctuary in 1975. A few years later, the WAVES were disbanded and women were allowed to serve on ships and be assigned to all Navy specialties.
ike9898 03:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
See Hancock, Capt. Joy Bright, Lady in the Navy US Naval Institute Press.
204.27.190.53 22:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)RogerInPDX
I have re-written some of the opening paragraphs explaining the differences between the WAAC, WAC, and WAVES. I realize this article is not about the WAAC or the WAC, but it incorrectly stated that the WAC came into existence about two months before the WAVES. In fact it was the WAAC (Women's AUXILIARY Army Corps). Also, it's not really possible to discuss the beginning of any of the women's services without some mention of the others.
I am also wondering whether the famous WAVE uniform designed by Mainbocher should be mentioned. This article is not about fashion, but in the beginning proper uniforms were a major consideration. It also demonstrates how the Navy took a more organized approach to these issues than the Army did, and why the WAVE uniform was somewhat more fashionable than the uniform of the WAAC/WAC. RogerInPDX ( talk) 06:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
The article stated that the first Director of the WAVES was Mildred H. Fover. I have no idea where that came from, but I have corrected the mistake by changing the name to Mildred McAfee, who was in fact first Director of the WAVES, as is mentioned further along in the article. RogerInPDX ( talk) 05:27, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Have I correctly identified this uniform? Jim.henderson ( talk) 11:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
It appears to be the correct dress white uniform for an enlisted WAVE during World War II. The one thing wrong is the color of the purse, which I believe should have been white, though I believe this rule was later relaxed and I've also heard of a white cover that could be put on the standard black purse.
My source is the letters my late mother wrote home during her service with the WAVES in World War II in which she discussed buying a dress white uniform from another WAVE, but she was apparently not able to acquire the white purse before the war ended.
RogerInPDX ( talk) 08:33, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
The article lists an abundance of reference sources (under numerous headings), yet very little of the WAVES story has found its way into the article itself. Should anyone be watching this page, I plan to begin expanding the article with the expectation of upgrading its Start-class rating.
First, though, lets turn to the lead, which incorrectly states, ‘‘their official name was the U.S. Naval Reserve (Women's Reserve), but the nickname as the WAVES stuck.’’ Actually, the official name was Women Accepted for Voluntary Emergency Service. Elisabeth Raynard, attached to the U.S. Navy from Barnard College, constructed the name. In explaining how she came up with the nautical name, Reynard said: “I realized that there were two letters which had to be in it: W for women and V for volunteer, because the Navy wants to make it clear that this is a voluntary service and not a drafted service. So I played with those two letters and the idea of the sea and finally came up with Women Accepted for Volunteer Emergency Service – WAVES”. (See Bacronym) Source: Lady in the Navy, Joy Hancock Pendright ( talk) 23:27, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
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FYI: Yeoman (F), a Wikipedia article, contains information on the above subject. Pendright ( talk) 00:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello again Pendright. I have, as promised, had another read through the article and noted a few queries. Please though, keep in mind that I am not very familiar with military jargon nor really with US English variations so some of my comments can no doubt be dismissed. Let me know if you need any clarification of my notes...
That's it. I look forward to watching ACR. Best wishes, JennyOz ( talk) 05:56, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
WAVES § Assignments needs clarification. Alaska and Hawaii were not outside the United States. I assume that prior to the policy change, women could only serve in the 48 states and D.C.? From brief online research I think this is Public Law 441 which also allowed women to serve in the "American Area" including Panama and the Caribbean, not just Alaska and Hawaii. Note that Panama Canal Zone was also part of the United States. One other historical quirk: some Carribean territories of occupied European countries were administered by the United States during the war ( Aruba). I wouldn't be at all surprised if WAVES served there. ☆ Bri ( talk) 02:01, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
This is a confusion that remains, with ALaska and Hawaii being classed as "OCONUS" (usually described as Out of CONtinetal US) travel and assignments). It seems likely that both the Alaska and Hawaii territories were considered "overseas" deployments in WWII, as they are today. DavisGL ( talk) 02:06, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
I served with a Master Chief who came into service through WAVES, she retired in 2011 and most certainly entered service after 1945. Was this an entirely separate program? Maybe Korean or Vietnam era revival of the program? Should this continuation program be addressed separately or within this article? DavisGL ( talk) 02:02, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
@ SWP13: Your recent edits to the Notable people section of the WAVES article did not coform to WP:SOURCELIST. Linking to other Wikipedia articles is not a form of reference soucing. Please reference each listing with a reliable source or remove it. Pendright ( talk) 18:04, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Response>>I added Jeanne Rowe Skinner with proper ref/citation. SWP13 ( talk) 19:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
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are you soure WAVE is an acronym and not a backronym¡? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.161.61.85 ( talk) 01:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I moved the following paragraph here because I could not verify it. Sources I've seen indicate that the WAVES were disbanded after WWII:
The WAVES continued to serve through the Vietnam War. WAVES officer candidates were trained for 16 weeks at the Newport, Rhode Island Naval Base. Enlisted WAVES were trained at United States Naval Training Center Bainbridge. During the 1970's consideration was given to allowing WAVES to serve aboard ships. Ultimately, LT Valerie Zeller, USNR, was assigned to two weeks reserve duty aboard the USS Sanctuary in 1975. A few years later, the WAVES were disbanded and women were allowed to serve on ships and be assigned to all Navy specialties.
ike9898 03:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
See Hancock, Capt. Joy Bright, Lady in the Navy US Naval Institute Press.
204.27.190.53 22:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)RogerInPDX
I have re-written some of the opening paragraphs explaining the differences between the WAAC, WAC, and WAVES. I realize this article is not about the WAAC or the WAC, but it incorrectly stated that the WAC came into existence about two months before the WAVES. In fact it was the WAAC (Women's AUXILIARY Army Corps). Also, it's not really possible to discuss the beginning of any of the women's services without some mention of the others.
I am also wondering whether the famous WAVE uniform designed by Mainbocher should be mentioned. This article is not about fashion, but in the beginning proper uniforms were a major consideration. It also demonstrates how the Navy took a more organized approach to these issues than the Army did, and why the WAVE uniform was somewhat more fashionable than the uniform of the WAAC/WAC. RogerInPDX ( talk) 06:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
The article stated that the first Director of the WAVES was Mildred H. Fover. I have no idea where that came from, but I have corrected the mistake by changing the name to Mildred McAfee, who was in fact first Director of the WAVES, as is mentioned further along in the article. RogerInPDX ( talk) 05:27, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Have I correctly identified this uniform? Jim.henderson ( talk) 11:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
It appears to be the correct dress white uniform for an enlisted WAVE during World War II. The one thing wrong is the color of the purse, which I believe should have been white, though I believe this rule was later relaxed and I've also heard of a white cover that could be put on the standard black purse.
My source is the letters my late mother wrote home during her service with the WAVES in World War II in which she discussed buying a dress white uniform from another WAVE, but she was apparently not able to acquire the white purse before the war ended.
RogerInPDX ( talk) 08:33, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
The article lists an abundance of reference sources (under numerous headings), yet very little of the WAVES story has found its way into the article itself. Should anyone be watching this page, I plan to begin expanding the article with the expectation of upgrading its Start-class rating.
First, though, lets turn to the lead, which incorrectly states, ‘‘their official name was the U.S. Naval Reserve (Women's Reserve), but the nickname as the WAVES stuck.’’ Actually, the official name was Women Accepted for Voluntary Emergency Service. Elisabeth Raynard, attached to the U.S. Navy from Barnard College, constructed the name. In explaining how she came up with the nautical name, Reynard said: “I realized that there were two letters which had to be in it: W for women and V for volunteer, because the Navy wants to make it clear that this is a voluntary service and not a drafted service. So I played with those two letters and the idea of the sea and finally came up with Women Accepted for Volunteer Emergency Service – WAVES”. (See Bacronym) Source: Lady in the Navy, Joy Hancock Pendright ( talk) 23:27, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 02:35, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
FYI: Yeoman (F), a Wikipedia article, contains information on the above subject. Pendright ( talk) 00:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello again Pendright. I have, as promised, had another read through the article and noted a few queries. Please though, keep in mind that I am not very familiar with military jargon nor really with US English variations so some of my comments can no doubt be dismissed. Let me know if you need any clarification of my notes...
That's it. I look forward to watching ACR. Best wishes, JennyOz ( talk) 05:56, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
WAVES § Assignments needs clarification. Alaska and Hawaii were not outside the United States. I assume that prior to the policy change, women could only serve in the 48 states and D.C.? From brief online research I think this is Public Law 441 which also allowed women to serve in the "American Area" including Panama and the Caribbean, not just Alaska and Hawaii. Note that Panama Canal Zone was also part of the United States. One other historical quirk: some Carribean territories of occupied European countries were administered by the United States during the war ( Aruba). I wouldn't be at all surprised if WAVES served there. ☆ Bri ( talk) 02:01, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
This is a confusion that remains, with ALaska and Hawaii being classed as "OCONUS" (usually described as Out of CONtinetal US) travel and assignments). It seems likely that both the Alaska and Hawaii territories were considered "overseas" deployments in WWII, as they are today. DavisGL ( talk) 02:06, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
I served with a Master Chief who came into service through WAVES, she retired in 2011 and most certainly entered service after 1945. Was this an entirely separate program? Maybe Korean or Vietnam era revival of the program? Should this continuation program be addressed separately or within this article? DavisGL ( talk) 02:02, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
@ SWP13: Your recent edits to the Notable people section of the WAVES article did not coform to WP:SOURCELIST. Linking to other Wikipedia articles is not a form of reference soucing. Please reference each listing with a reliable source or remove it. Pendright ( talk) 18:04, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Response>>I added Jeanne Rowe Skinner with proper ref/citation. SWP13 ( talk) 19:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)