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The article appears to use oblate several times when prolate is meant.
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-- Radical Mallard 3/12/09 7 PM EST
In the picture of that W88, we have the primary, secondary, and a supply to replenish the decayed tritium. Is there some sort of guidance system in the front? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.53.65 ( talk) 19:04, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
http://postimg.org/image/9gh5rty4z/2b453930/ BUT has the primary as an ovoid, not a prolate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.56.145 ( talk) 13:57, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
I've read about the mathematics of the prolate primary being 'an order of magnitude' more complex than an ovoid and was 'a revolutionary design'. I'm quoting from a book I read a decade ago - All in 'A Convenient Spy: Wen Ho Lee and the Politics of Nuclear Espionage' I promise I WILL find the precise pages. Ovoid primaries are more than 20 years older. They had a specific weight & size target so swapping primary & secondary allowed for a bigger secondary. The size target was a cone, so a prolate makes sense. To the codenames, you can add Terrazzo which removes helium caused by tritium decay and adding more tritium. It sits near the bottom of the cone, outside the peanut. The package, while not codenamed peanut, was termed as such amongst the designers. The neutron generator sits in the very tip of the cone. It sits outside the 'peanut'. I believe the primary is 5Kt, but I can't think where I read it. Certainly a LOT of US underground tests of the 1970s were 4 & 5Kt - sometimes 3 tests in a row & all listed as 'research'. I will continue searching. Here is the image http://postimg.org/image/al6o74i0b/
The line "The Trident II submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) can be armed with up to 12 W88 warheads (Mark 5 re-entry vehicle) or 12 100 kt W76 warheads (Mark 4 re-entry vehicle), but it is limited to 8 warheads under the Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaty." is inconsistant with the Trident 2 page which says that the missile can have up to 14 W88 or W76 warheads. 12 or 14, which is it? 97.127.191.148 ( talk) 05:34, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Re this edit [1] – The info on Fogbank isn't appropriate in the place where it was put because that paragraph was about revelations in the given news media, and Fogbank wasn't one of them since Fogbank is not unique to the W88 but is also a characteristic of preceding warheads. Note that Fogbank is described in the more general Wikipedia article Thermonuclear weapon.
Although the source is a tweet, it looks like the tweeter may be an acknowledged expert so it may be a reliable source that might be useful in the Thermonuclear weapon article. However, I haven't thoroughly checked the tweeter's status. -- Bob K31416 ( talk) 05:09, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
The primary shape is quite consistently described as egg shaped (ovoid), specifically that the shape allows the primary to be placed in the forward end of the RB and not the back as in other RVs/RBs. Moorland's diagram though shows an ellipsoid shape and seems to be implying the weapon is a linear implosion device i.e. like the W48, an implication I have seen elsewhere from people who saw the diagram and drew incorrect conclusions from it.
Neither of these are supported by the article. I would suggest that the diagram be removed as we have other diagrams. Kylesenior ( talk) 07:24, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
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The article appears to use oblate several times when prolate is meant.
You folks might want to check this out:
-- Radical Mallard 3/12/09 7 PM EST
In the picture of that W88, we have the primary, secondary, and a supply to replenish the decayed tritium. Is there some sort of guidance system in the front? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.53.65 ( talk) 19:04, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
http://postimg.org/image/9gh5rty4z/2b453930/ BUT has the primary as an ovoid, not a prolate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.56.145 ( talk) 13:57, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
I've read about the mathematics of the prolate primary being 'an order of magnitude' more complex than an ovoid and was 'a revolutionary design'. I'm quoting from a book I read a decade ago - All in 'A Convenient Spy: Wen Ho Lee and the Politics of Nuclear Espionage' I promise I WILL find the precise pages. Ovoid primaries are more than 20 years older. They had a specific weight & size target so swapping primary & secondary allowed for a bigger secondary. The size target was a cone, so a prolate makes sense. To the codenames, you can add Terrazzo which removes helium caused by tritium decay and adding more tritium. It sits near the bottom of the cone, outside the peanut. The package, while not codenamed peanut, was termed as such amongst the designers. The neutron generator sits in the very tip of the cone. It sits outside the 'peanut'. I believe the primary is 5Kt, but I can't think where I read it. Certainly a LOT of US underground tests of the 1970s were 4 & 5Kt - sometimes 3 tests in a row & all listed as 'research'. I will continue searching. Here is the image http://postimg.org/image/al6o74i0b/
The line "The Trident II submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) can be armed with up to 12 W88 warheads (Mark 5 re-entry vehicle) or 12 100 kt W76 warheads (Mark 4 re-entry vehicle), but it is limited to 8 warheads under the Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaty." is inconsistant with the Trident 2 page which says that the missile can have up to 14 W88 or W76 warheads. 12 or 14, which is it? 97.127.191.148 ( talk) 05:34, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Re this edit [1] – The info on Fogbank isn't appropriate in the place where it was put because that paragraph was about revelations in the given news media, and Fogbank wasn't one of them since Fogbank is not unique to the W88 but is also a characteristic of preceding warheads. Note that Fogbank is described in the more general Wikipedia article Thermonuclear weapon.
Although the source is a tweet, it looks like the tweeter may be an acknowledged expert so it may be a reliable source that might be useful in the Thermonuclear weapon article. However, I haven't thoroughly checked the tweeter's status. -- Bob K31416 ( talk) 05:09, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
The primary shape is quite consistently described as egg shaped (ovoid), specifically that the shape allows the primary to be placed in the forward end of the RB and not the back as in other RVs/RBs. Moorland's diagram though shows an ellipsoid shape and seems to be implying the weapon is a linear implosion device i.e. like the W48, an implication I have seen elsewhere from people who saw the diagram and drew incorrect conclusions from it.
Neither of these are supported by the article. I would suggest that the diagram be removed as we have other diagrams. Kylesenior ( talk) 07:24, 23 March 2021 (UTC)