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Hey, I've recently revamped this article considerably as can be seen in the edit history. All the large IP user edits in the last while were by me, the Irish IP. I'm just here looking for feedback on the edits and any assistance with (a) a complete explanation for how the gold addition helped with the creation of the x-rays and (b) help with making the table I added more concise, as I have expressed in the edit history. "I'm not happy with the horizontal layout of the warhead energy distribution table, it'd be better if both "near sea level" explosions were one atop the other, and with that the table was more vertical in nature, so that we could fit the whole table on the right of the page rather than taking up so much horizontal room..." 178.167.254.22 ( talk) 04:29, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Other than the apparently sourced production numbers, this section is unsourced and maybe original research. I will remove it in due course. - Crosbie 19:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I have flagged the use of Johnston's Archive archive as a source ( http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/multimeg.html#U6) at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Johnston.27s_Archive_-_self_published_site. - 05:07, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
As I noted on the noticeboard, both Johnston's Archive and The Nuclear Weapon Archive are self published sources. Both of these are provided as sources in the current version of the article [1]. WP:SPS states that self-published sources are largely not acceptable as sources. The only exception given is where the source is produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. This does not apply to either Johnston's Archive or The Nuclear Weapon Archive. - Crosbie 18:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Quick note on the DoE gold mine quote - this is confirmed with context here [2], indicating that the warhead contained gold, and that this was not simply a figure of speech. - Crosbie 19:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
The article currently states '...it is believed the 1952 Ivy Mike design used a thin layer of gold on the secondary casing walls to improve its performance'. The given source is Dark sun: The making of the hydrogen bomb by Richard Rhodes. No page reference is provided. Google allows us to search this book for the occurrence of the word 'gold': [3]. According to this, the only reference to the gold the metal is on page 194. All the other references are to Harry Gold. The reference on page 194 occurs in the phrase 'The October 18 document gave the Urchin's precise measurements and described its operation in detail — its two parts, its gold and nickel plating'. I have this book on Kindle. This passage refers to a neutron initiator used in the Trinity device. It does not refer to Ivy Mike. The given source does not support the claim made. If no verifiable page reference is given, or other reliable source provided, I will remove this claim from the article. - Crosbie 19:31, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
The article currently states, 'The use of gold maximizes the production of x-rays as gold efficiently radiates thermal x-rays (see Moseley's law).' The given source is Elements of Thermonuclear Weapon Design at the Nuclear Weapons Archive.
If no reliable source can be provided for this claim, I will remove it from the article. - Crosbie 07:14, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
I find this assertion made in the article at present rather dubious. The whole point in this weapon was to reduce the amount of residual radiation that would continue to ionize the thin atmosphere at altitude. Therefore they probably designed it to keep as much of the weapons neutrons away from the Gold as possible, but to still permit all the electromagnetic radiation to reach the gold.
Moreover the statement in the article is unsourced, unless I'm mistaken. 178.167.174.222 ( talk) 15:11, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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Hey, I've recently revamped this article considerably as can be seen in the edit history. All the large IP user edits in the last while were by me, the Irish IP. I'm just here looking for feedback on the edits and any assistance with (a) a complete explanation for how the gold addition helped with the creation of the x-rays and (b) help with making the table I added more concise, as I have expressed in the edit history. "I'm not happy with the horizontal layout of the warhead energy distribution table, it'd be better if both "near sea level" explosions were one atop the other, and with that the table was more vertical in nature, so that we could fit the whole table on the right of the page rather than taking up so much horizontal room..." 178.167.254.22 ( talk) 04:29, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Other than the apparently sourced production numbers, this section is unsourced and maybe original research. I will remove it in due course. - Crosbie 19:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I have flagged the use of Johnston's Archive archive as a source ( http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/multimeg.html#U6) at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Johnston.27s_Archive_-_self_published_site. - 05:07, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
As I noted on the noticeboard, both Johnston's Archive and The Nuclear Weapon Archive are self published sources. Both of these are provided as sources in the current version of the article [1]. WP:SPS states that self-published sources are largely not acceptable as sources. The only exception given is where the source is produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. This does not apply to either Johnston's Archive or The Nuclear Weapon Archive. - Crosbie 18:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Quick note on the DoE gold mine quote - this is confirmed with context here [2], indicating that the warhead contained gold, and that this was not simply a figure of speech. - Crosbie 19:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
The article currently states '...it is believed the 1952 Ivy Mike design used a thin layer of gold on the secondary casing walls to improve its performance'. The given source is Dark sun: The making of the hydrogen bomb by Richard Rhodes. No page reference is provided. Google allows us to search this book for the occurrence of the word 'gold': [3]. According to this, the only reference to the gold the metal is on page 194. All the other references are to Harry Gold. The reference on page 194 occurs in the phrase 'The October 18 document gave the Urchin's precise measurements and described its operation in detail — its two parts, its gold and nickel plating'. I have this book on Kindle. This passage refers to a neutron initiator used in the Trinity device. It does not refer to Ivy Mike. The given source does not support the claim made. If no verifiable page reference is given, or other reliable source provided, I will remove this claim from the article. - Crosbie 19:31, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
The article currently states, 'The use of gold maximizes the production of x-rays as gold efficiently radiates thermal x-rays (see Moseley's law).' The given source is Elements of Thermonuclear Weapon Design at the Nuclear Weapons Archive.
If no reliable source can be provided for this claim, I will remove it from the article. - Crosbie 07:14, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
I find this assertion made in the article at present rather dubious. The whole point in this weapon was to reduce the amount of residual radiation that would continue to ionize the thin atmosphere at altitude. Therefore they probably designed it to keep as much of the weapons neutrons away from the Gold as possible, but to still permit all the electromagnetic radiation to reach the gold.
Moreover the statement in the article is unsourced, unless I'm mistaken. 178.167.174.222 ( talk) 15:11, 15 August 2015 (UTC)