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'Just A Notion' will be the 3rd ABBA Single, from 'Voyage', on Friday 22nd October. It is much more lively than the 1978 Original. The 1978 Song, has been given more power and strength. That goes for both the Vocals, and the Instrumentation. Most of all it has a great sense of 'Fun' around it. It is ABBA at their best. 09:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
The songs "Just a notion" and "Bumblebee" are mentioned in the track list, but as they have not have been commented, released or played in any form to the public, the fact that they are complete versions of the unfinished songs published in the box set Thank you for the music is just a matter of speculation. No source for this is mentioned in the text. Alejandroflopez ( talk) 17:39, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Too much focus.
Why give tracklisting for Gold Greatest Hits? Simply say Japanese versions include one with the GOLD album. Coachtripfan ( talk) 08:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
These have appeared on various Abba fan sites. Gossip and speculation.
The tracklisting times have NOT been confirmed by any authoritative source. Apart from the 2 singles obviously. Coachtripfan ( talk) 08:10, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Where is the claim for 111,000 UK Pre order sales? Not in the link.
The author of this topic is clueless Coachtripfan ( talk) 21:06, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
The author of the Voyage (album) page
Uses timings of songs without any sources
Sales figures from only one source. We don't know how reliable it is
Lists the whole tracklisting of GOLD Greatest Hits just because a Japanese edition has one version of Voyage with a GOLD GH bonus disc
Asserts bumblebee song is an old recording when Fan Club says it isn't Coachtripfan ( talk) 12:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
"Calm yourself down" is a personal attack.
My criticism about
1. The timing of the songs is valid. No evidence or source or provided. We only know the length of the 3 released singles
2. Why highlight the Japanese edition with tracklistings from compilations/Dvds? Just give 10 tracklisting for global edition. Footnotes for international variations.
3. Ok there has been one or two sources about the pre-sale figures. But are they reliable?
Coachtripfan (
talk)
20:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Btw, the story about pre-sales is in two articles but written by the same person - Adam Sherwin. MSN often pick up stories from newspapers. The Independent and I newspaper are frequently used. Coachtripfan ( talk) 20:50, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I realize that the male members of the band have said this is it in an interview, which has been cited. But are they absolutely sure this time? Bluorangefyre ( talk) 02:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Track 3 Little things is Lead vocal Agnetha Faltskog StephenStoke ( talk) 13:38, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
No it isn't. It is Frida Coachtripfan ( talk) 20:58, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
This is a component of the UK chart - like sales, streaming etc which are included.
Scotland is not an independent country. Its sales included in UK chart.
Exclude this Coachtripfan ( talk) 21:00, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
I would say the two singles are clearly 'more' separate singles than a combined 'Double A'. Both exist in separate formats, with individual cover art. Discogs has two digital issues listed that combine the two tracks but one doesn't come with a valid download source. So that's just one combined release, compared to two for "Faith" and one for "Shut", separately. Only "Faith" has so far been released on 7", but Björn has stated that a 7" would be coming of "Shut" as well. If ABBA considered them a 'Double A', why did they release a 1-sided 7" and two 1-track CD singles? 'Double A' makes no sense. What comes to chart, both have charted on their own (along with all tracks from the album now), so defining what makes a 'single' by chart performance isn't very sensible these days. Also, ABBA particularly sell physical copies. Official site still has minimal info about the new releases, so that can't be used as a source. Although, obviously, all the physical formats are separate. When the new releases were announced (on Sept 2), they were referred to as two singles, released on the same day. Official Youtube pages for the two songs state 'Listen to two brand new songs', nothing about them being on the same single. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jopla2 ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
entertainment/album-reviews-abba-damon-albarn-barrie-james-3444800 The Scotsman],
Contactmusic, a
HMV staff review, and
Spotify's own press release all use the term "double A-side". If there were no sources saying this I wouldn't have used the term or been arguing for the article calling them a double A-side.
"Faith" and "Shut" were released as two separate singles, not as a double A side They each have their own physical releases, their own catalogue numbers, and reached different chart positions. Just because they were released on the same day does not mean they were a double A-side. Nor does the way Spotify promoted them. Spotify is ONE streaming service, not the entire music industry. On Amazon, for example, they were available to download separately and you paid for each song. "Notion" was therefore the third single, and "Little Things" will be the fourth. 213.205.240.130 ( talk) 02:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
These two songs were not released as a double A-side. They were released as physical singles, which could be bought from retailers like singles used to be, and also as separate digital download tracks. I have both CD singles, and they are one-track releases, each with their own cat no. and cover art, etc. In fact, "I Still Have Faith In You" also came out as a 7" vinyl single which was just that song. Double A-sides are a throwback to physical formats. There is no "A side" for streaming purposes, just a song (or songs) that are released. It doesn't matter whether a streaming service has given them some kind of closer proximity, ABBA's own store listed them as separate singles and sold them as such (as did all other retailers), and that trumps all other sources. ABBA have released double A-sides before, in the UK "Voulez-Vous" was a double A-side with "Angeleyes" back in 1979. That single comprised those two songs on one single, with one cat number and one sleeve with cover art. That's what a double A-side is. MassassiUK ( talk) 22:48, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
The idea that I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shut Me Down is based on the view that of all the hundreds of thousands publications, in a handful, it says they are double A Sides. Have you ever thought they might be wrong? Following this logic you'd say the Earth is flat because some say it is. They were released separately as physical singles and digital songs. Simultaneous release but separate releases. 14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)~
Here is the EVIDENCE form a senior executive at ABBA's record company that the two songs, I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shit Me Down were lead SINGLES. Note the plural. It goes on to talk about the success of the SINGLES. This was published in Music Week - more authoritative than publications citing dual single.
https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/fantastic-voyage-polydor-on-the-second-coming-of-abba/084823 Coachtripfan ( talk) 13:59, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
This Official Charts Company article, actually quoted in the references talks of DUAL SINGLES https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/abba-announce-their-first-studio-album-of-new-material-in-39-years-voyage-and-ground-breaking-concert-series__33932/ Coachtripfan ( talk) 14:06, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Can someone please add the information that ABBA sold over 1 million copies of Voyage within its first week of release, per this source: https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/abbas-first-new-studio-album-in-40-years-sold-in-excess-of-1m-combined-album-units-globally-in-its-first-week/#:~:text=According%20to%20Universal%20Music%20Group,million%20combined%20streams%20to%20date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.116.6.235 ( talk) 16:36, 24 November 2021 (UTC)tabruns2021 Tabruns2021 ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Voyage sails to #1 in Greece.
The link you have is for the current chart and it confirms this
Cheers 148.252.128.206 ( talk) 12:57, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Done TheCartoonEditor (talk) (contribs) 14:14, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Gold award in Denmark for 10,000 shipments
http://www.ifpi.dk/certificeringer-0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 14:41, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
From specialist music magazines and a popular UK newspaper
https://retropopmagazine.com/abba-voyage-album-review/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/abbas-voyage-album-review-the-25382811 Coachtripfan ( talk) 23:30, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
400,000 sales
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469332460647419910 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
300,000 sales in UK
https://twitter.com/BRITs/status/1466790578608295945 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 16:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
331,000 as quoted in Music Week https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/fantastic-voyage-polydor-on-the-second-coming-of-abba/084823 Coachtripfan ( talk) 13:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/snep/status/1475397395534036993?t=lfFz94iZDKt_YxvgEAXdWA&s=19
100,000 sales equivalent Coachtripfan ( talk) 11:01, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
Here is the official link
https://snepmusique.com/les-certifications/
Coachtripfan (
talk)
12:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Swedish certification for double platinum is 80,000+ units not 60,000 units. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tabruns2021 ( talk • contribs) 04:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
400,000 chart sales 387,000 pure sales
https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-albums-of-2021__34858/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 15:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
This is NOT a single. It was only released to the radio for airplay.
Perhaps it needs to be labelled Promotional Single. 85.255.232.117 ( talk) 14:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
2,050,000 for 2021
source: IFPI https://www.ifpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/IFPI_Global_Music_Report_2022-State_of_the_Industry.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 15:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Here is the EVIDENCE form a senior executive at ABBA's record company that the two songs, I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shit Me Down were lead SINGLES. Note the plural. It goes on to talk about the success of the SINGLES. This was published in Music Week - more authoritative than publications citing dual single. Actuallly, these references now deleted!
https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/fantastic-voyage-polydor-on-the-second-coming-of-abba/084823
This Official Charts Company article, actually quoted in the references talks of DUAL SINGLES https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/abba-announce-their-first-studio-album-of-new-material-in-39-years-voyage-and-ground-breaking-concert-series__33932/ Coachtripfan ( talk) 15:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Track 10 Ode to Freedom lead vocal Anni Frid Lyngstad StephenStoke ( talk) 13:23, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
474, 955 sales
https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/one-year-on-how-avatar-concert-abba-voyage-is-powering-the-group-s-classic-catalogue/088129 Coachtripfan ( talk) 14:06, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
Hello all, I had a question about the credits for Bjorn and Benny's instruments on this album. I don't recall seeing Bjorn credited anywhere in the liner notes for guitar (on my CD at least), and I find it strange that Benny isn't credited with synth bass (not that we can fix the latter without official confirmation, I just think it's strange). I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts about this. Thanks!! EPBeatles ( talk) 20:27, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
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'Just A Notion' will be the 3rd ABBA Single, from 'Voyage', on Friday 22nd October. It is much more lively than the 1978 Original. The 1978 Song, has been given more power and strength. That goes for both the Vocals, and the Instrumentation. Most of all it has a great sense of 'Fun' around it. It is ABBA at their best. 09:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
The songs "Just a notion" and "Bumblebee" are mentioned in the track list, but as they have not have been commented, released or played in any form to the public, the fact that they are complete versions of the unfinished songs published in the box set Thank you for the music is just a matter of speculation. No source for this is mentioned in the text. Alejandroflopez ( talk) 17:39, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Too much focus.
Why give tracklisting for Gold Greatest Hits? Simply say Japanese versions include one with the GOLD album. Coachtripfan ( talk) 08:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
These have appeared on various Abba fan sites. Gossip and speculation.
The tracklisting times have NOT been confirmed by any authoritative source. Apart from the 2 singles obviously. Coachtripfan ( talk) 08:10, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Where is the claim for 111,000 UK Pre order sales? Not in the link.
The author of this topic is clueless Coachtripfan ( talk) 21:06, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
The author of the Voyage (album) page
Uses timings of songs without any sources
Sales figures from only one source. We don't know how reliable it is
Lists the whole tracklisting of GOLD Greatest Hits just because a Japanese edition has one version of Voyage with a GOLD GH bonus disc
Asserts bumblebee song is an old recording when Fan Club says it isn't Coachtripfan ( talk) 12:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
"Calm yourself down" is a personal attack.
My criticism about
1. The timing of the songs is valid. No evidence or source or provided. We only know the length of the 3 released singles
2. Why highlight the Japanese edition with tracklistings from compilations/Dvds? Just give 10 tracklisting for global edition. Footnotes for international variations.
3. Ok there has been one or two sources about the pre-sale figures. But are they reliable?
Coachtripfan (
talk)
20:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Btw, the story about pre-sales is in two articles but written by the same person - Adam Sherwin. MSN often pick up stories from newspapers. The Independent and I newspaper are frequently used. Coachtripfan ( talk) 20:50, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I realize that the male members of the band have said this is it in an interview, which has been cited. But are they absolutely sure this time? Bluorangefyre ( talk) 02:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Track 3 Little things is Lead vocal Agnetha Faltskog StephenStoke ( talk) 13:38, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
No it isn't. It is Frida Coachtripfan ( talk) 20:58, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
This is a component of the UK chart - like sales, streaming etc which are included.
Scotland is not an independent country. Its sales included in UK chart.
Exclude this Coachtripfan ( talk) 21:00, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
I would say the two singles are clearly 'more' separate singles than a combined 'Double A'. Both exist in separate formats, with individual cover art. Discogs has two digital issues listed that combine the two tracks but one doesn't come with a valid download source. So that's just one combined release, compared to two for "Faith" and one for "Shut", separately. Only "Faith" has so far been released on 7", but Björn has stated that a 7" would be coming of "Shut" as well. If ABBA considered them a 'Double A', why did they release a 1-sided 7" and two 1-track CD singles? 'Double A' makes no sense. What comes to chart, both have charted on their own (along with all tracks from the album now), so defining what makes a 'single' by chart performance isn't very sensible these days. Also, ABBA particularly sell physical copies. Official site still has minimal info about the new releases, so that can't be used as a source. Although, obviously, all the physical formats are separate. When the new releases were announced (on Sept 2), they were referred to as two singles, released on the same day. Official Youtube pages for the two songs state 'Listen to two brand new songs', nothing about them being on the same single. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jopla2 ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
entertainment/album-reviews-abba-damon-albarn-barrie-james-3444800 The Scotsman],
Contactmusic, a
HMV staff review, and
Spotify's own press release all use the term "double A-side". If there were no sources saying this I wouldn't have used the term or been arguing for the article calling them a double A-side.
"Faith" and "Shut" were released as two separate singles, not as a double A side They each have their own physical releases, their own catalogue numbers, and reached different chart positions. Just because they were released on the same day does not mean they were a double A-side. Nor does the way Spotify promoted them. Spotify is ONE streaming service, not the entire music industry. On Amazon, for example, they were available to download separately and you paid for each song. "Notion" was therefore the third single, and "Little Things" will be the fourth. 213.205.240.130 ( talk) 02:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
These two songs were not released as a double A-side. They were released as physical singles, which could be bought from retailers like singles used to be, and also as separate digital download tracks. I have both CD singles, and they are one-track releases, each with their own cat no. and cover art, etc. In fact, "I Still Have Faith In You" also came out as a 7" vinyl single which was just that song. Double A-sides are a throwback to physical formats. There is no "A side" for streaming purposes, just a song (or songs) that are released. It doesn't matter whether a streaming service has given them some kind of closer proximity, ABBA's own store listed them as separate singles and sold them as such (as did all other retailers), and that trumps all other sources. ABBA have released double A-sides before, in the UK "Voulez-Vous" was a double A-side with "Angeleyes" back in 1979. That single comprised those two songs on one single, with one cat number and one sleeve with cover art. That's what a double A-side is. MassassiUK ( talk) 22:48, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
The idea that I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shut Me Down is based on the view that of all the hundreds of thousands publications, in a handful, it says they are double A Sides. Have you ever thought they might be wrong? Following this logic you'd say the Earth is flat because some say it is. They were released separately as physical singles and digital songs. Simultaneous release but separate releases. 14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)~
Here is the EVIDENCE form a senior executive at ABBA's record company that the two songs, I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shit Me Down were lead SINGLES. Note the plural. It goes on to talk about the success of the SINGLES. This was published in Music Week - more authoritative than publications citing dual single.
https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/fantastic-voyage-polydor-on-the-second-coming-of-abba/084823 Coachtripfan ( talk) 13:59, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
This Official Charts Company article, actually quoted in the references talks of DUAL SINGLES https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/abba-announce-their-first-studio-album-of-new-material-in-39-years-voyage-and-ground-breaking-concert-series__33932/ Coachtripfan ( talk) 14:06, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Can someone please add the information that ABBA sold over 1 million copies of Voyage within its first week of release, per this source: https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/abbas-first-new-studio-album-in-40-years-sold-in-excess-of-1m-combined-album-units-globally-in-its-first-week/#:~:text=According%20to%20Universal%20Music%20Group,million%20combined%20streams%20to%20date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.116.6.235 ( talk) 16:36, 24 November 2021 (UTC)tabruns2021 Tabruns2021 ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Voyage sails to #1 in Greece.
The link you have is for the current chart and it confirms this
Cheers 148.252.128.206 ( talk) 12:57, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Done TheCartoonEditor (talk) (contribs) 14:14, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Gold award in Denmark for 10,000 shipments
http://www.ifpi.dk/certificeringer-0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 14:41, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
From specialist music magazines and a popular UK newspaper
https://retropopmagazine.com/abba-voyage-album-review/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/abbas-voyage-album-review-the-25382811 Coachtripfan ( talk) 23:30, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
400,000 sales
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469332460647419910 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
300,000 sales in UK
https://twitter.com/BRITs/status/1466790578608295945 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 16:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
331,000 as quoted in Music Week https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/fantastic-voyage-polydor-on-the-second-coming-of-abba/084823 Coachtripfan ( talk) 13:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/snep/status/1475397395534036993?t=lfFz94iZDKt_YxvgEAXdWA&s=19
100,000 sales equivalent Coachtripfan ( talk) 11:01, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
Here is the official link
https://snepmusique.com/les-certifications/
Coachtripfan (
talk)
12:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Swedish certification for double platinum is 80,000+ units not 60,000 units. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tabruns2021 ( talk • contribs) 04:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
400,000 chart sales 387,000 pure sales
https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-albums-of-2021__34858/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 15:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
This is NOT a single. It was only released to the radio for airplay.
Perhaps it needs to be labelled Promotional Single. 85.255.232.117 ( talk) 14:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
2,050,000 for 2021
source: IFPI https://www.ifpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/IFPI_Global_Music_Report_2022-State_of_the_Industry.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan ( talk • contribs) 15:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Here is the EVIDENCE form a senior executive at ABBA's record company that the two songs, I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shit Me Down were lead SINGLES. Note the plural. It goes on to talk about the success of the SINGLES. This was published in Music Week - more authoritative than publications citing dual single. Actuallly, these references now deleted!
https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/fantastic-voyage-polydor-on-the-second-coming-of-abba/084823
This Official Charts Company article, actually quoted in the references talks of DUAL SINGLES https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/abba-announce-their-first-studio-album-of-new-material-in-39-years-voyage-and-ground-breaking-concert-series__33932/ Coachtripfan ( talk) 15:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Track 10 Ode to Freedom lead vocal Anni Frid Lyngstad StephenStoke ( talk) 13:23, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
474, 955 sales
https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/one-year-on-how-avatar-concert-abba-voyage-is-powering-the-group-s-classic-catalogue/088129 Coachtripfan ( talk) 14:06, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
Hello all, I had a question about the credits for Bjorn and Benny's instruments on this album. I don't recall seeing Bjorn credited anywhere in the liner notes for guitar (on my CD at least), and I find it strange that Benny isn't credited with synth bass (not that we can fix the latter without official confirmation, I just think it's strange). I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts about this. Thanks!! EPBeatles ( talk) 20:27, 29 November 2023 (UTC)