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This article doesn't really explain the volksgemeinschaft at all, it just goes off on a tangent about gleichaltung and the Hitler Youth. What was the volksgemeinschaft? How was it to be achieved? How did it appeal to voters? Who did it appeal to? In my opinion this article needs some serious work.
Volksgemeinschaft is not a Nazi word or Nazi idea. From the late 19th century on this term was used by nationalist, liberal and even communist groups and parties in Germany to describe the solidaric society they wanted to create. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.52.173.90 ( talk) 22:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
The page should really start by saying Volksgemeinschaft isn't translatable into english as the first line currently suggest it can be. The article could do with being rewritten. ( Morcus ( talk) 01:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC))
Volksgemeinschaft existed well before National Socialist movements took control of Germany. German unification of 1871 by Bismark was a milestone in it, some might say the culmination of it. Certainly, the unification benefited the economic and military position of German-speaking people, for whom it nominally spoke for, relative to French and other groups. Racial purity was not universally considered a goal of Volksgemeinschaft adherents in the 19th century, though it became an issue as Jewish resistance to the German Empire became more pronounced. It is within reason to argue that obedience to Hitler was because of his adoption of Volksgemeinschaft as a mission (certainly, it was felt in Austria that Hitler's nation-building was good for Austrians), but many who were enraptured by the original promise of his continuation of Bismark's success would later become thoroughly disillusioned with the course that greater Germany was taking under the Nazis.
From time immemorial, the ideal of Synarchy, the opposite of anarchy, has had an appeal. In Europe, this is embodied by the empires of Rome, Charles the Great, Napolean, and Bismark, among others. The allure is such that even reasonable people can be persueded by it, without giving close enough though to the governance it requires. I would say that the attractions of the Synarchic ideal has led to the creation of the UN, WIPO, and the EU. Volksgemeinschaft needs to be examined in this light. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.55.175 ( talk) 01:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Cutting some sections for being irrevelant to the subject matter, since the section should be about propaganda for Volksgemeinschaft, not in general. Goldfritha ( talk) 22:59, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
The section on Nazi use of Volksgemeinschaft talks of the Nazis' "socialist principles" and how "other politicans [sic] tore at German unity". There's some subediting to be done too - "hierarchially"? (And I know, I should change, but short on time.) Mlleangelique ( talk) 13:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
With all due respect - which is very little - anyone characterising the Nazis, who cracked down on socialists before any other group, as socialists should not be allowed anywhere near articles on Nazism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlleangelique ( talk • contribs) 17:25, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Reich Chamber of Culture & Music and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 15#Reich Chamber of Culture & Music until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 20:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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This article doesn't really explain the volksgemeinschaft at all, it just goes off on a tangent about gleichaltung and the Hitler Youth. What was the volksgemeinschaft? How was it to be achieved? How did it appeal to voters? Who did it appeal to? In my opinion this article needs some serious work.
Volksgemeinschaft is not a Nazi word or Nazi idea. From the late 19th century on this term was used by nationalist, liberal and even communist groups and parties in Germany to describe the solidaric society they wanted to create. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.52.173.90 ( talk) 22:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
The page should really start by saying Volksgemeinschaft isn't translatable into english as the first line currently suggest it can be. The article could do with being rewritten. ( Morcus ( talk) 01:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC))
Volksgemeinschaft existed well before National Socialist movements took control of Germany. German unification of 1871 by Bismark was a milestone in it, some might say the culmination of it. Certainly, the unification benefited the economic and military position of German-speaking people, for whom it nominally spoke for, relative to French and other groups. Racial purity was not universally considered a goal of Volksgemeinschaft adherents in the 19th century, though it became an issue as Jewish resistance to the German Empire became more pronounced. It is within reason to argue that obedience to Hitler was because of his adoption of Volksgemeinschaft as a mission (certainly, it was felt in Austria that Hitler's nation-building was good for Austrians), but many who were enraptured by the original promise of his continuation of Bismark's success would later become thoroughly disillusioned with the course that greater Germany was taking under the Nazis.
From time immemorial, the ideal of Synarchy, the opposite of anarchy, has had an appeal. In Europe, this is embodied by the empires of Rome, Charles the Great, Napolean, and Bismark, among others. The allure is such that even reasonable people can be persueded by it, without giving close enough though to the governance it requires. I would say that the attractions of the Synarchic ideal has led to the creation of the UN, WIPO, and the EU. Volksgemeinschaft needs to be examined in this light. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.55.175 ( talk) 01:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Cutting some sections for being irrevelant to the subject matter, since the section should be about propaganda for Volksgemeinschaft, not in general. Goldfritha ( talk) 22:59, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
The section on Nazi use of Volksgemeinschaft talks of the Nazis' "socialist principles" and how "other politicans [sic] tore at German unity". There's some subediting to be done too - "hierarchially"? (And I know, I should change, but short on time.) Mlleangelique ( talk) 13:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
With all due respect - which is very little - anyone characterising the Nazis, who cracked down on socialists before any other group, as socialists should not be allowed anywhere near articles on Nazism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlleangelique ( talk • contribs) 17:25, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Reich Chamber of Culture & Music and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 15#Reich Chamber of Culture & Music until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 20:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)