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Generally no accepted connections to Brahmins. This part has to be removed because it gives wrong information to people and creates confusion and some type of discrimination within the same brahmin community. The purusha sukta in vedas mentions community belonging to brahmin varna. 59.93.100.81 ( talk) 19:21, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
I agree to this. This creates problems among the community and is also a hate speech. Dheeraj L D ( talk) 05:05, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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The information given in the article is wrong and you should read the history of Vishwakarma brahmins in Vedas, and then correct it here. 223.227.81.46 ( talk) 07:09, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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Vishwabrahmins belong to the ancient cult of brahmin varna, who were basically involved in metallurgy and temple’s vasthu designers Vanilabar ( talk) 08:20, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
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although having no general connection to the Brahmins, they use the term 'Brahmin' at the end of their community name. Vishwakarma are a social group of India, sometimes described as a caste. Vishwabrahman52 ( talk) 16:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Inspite of people providing all proper evidences of Vishwakarma being Brahmins the author still seems to be spreading hatred among people. First of all such statements should not be promoted from a platform like Wikipedia whose authenticity cannot even be proved by the author. Also the author should then proper evidences and citations if he considers the other way round of Vishwakarma's no direct connection to brahmin. Anyhow, such statements should be removed immediately whose source for truthfulness can not even be proved by the author. And this platform is not represent view of any specific person but should be based on facts. Nehasharma999 ( talk) 19:00, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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vishwakarma is a Brahmin caste which has higher caste position and no one declines it. Those were the old claims written, even priest only do the scared thread rituals to vishwakarma community and do accept that they are brahmin. 103.216.68.148 ( talk) 13:09, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी के श्रेष्ठ ब्राह्मण कुल वंश का शास्त्रीय प्रमाण।
सनातन वैदिक हिंदू धर्म में देवताओं के आचार्य एवं शिल्पी के रूप में वेद शास्त्र में प्रतिष्ठित देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा देवता की श्रेणी में होते हुए भी ब्राह्मण जाति के हैं जैसे देवगुरु बृहस्पति हैं। देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी विश्वकर्मा जी का कुल वंश भी शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण कुल है। सर्वप्रथम, निम्न विष्णु पुराण के प्रमाण से हम भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी के माता-पिता के कुल वंश के सन्दर्भ में प्रमाण प्रस्तुत करेंगे ;
- (विष्णुपुराण/प्रथमांश:/अध्याय -१५, श्लोक - ११८-११९)
अर्थात - देवगुरु बृहस्पति की बहन वरस्त्री(भुवना), जो ब्रह्मचारिणी थी और सिद्ध योगिनी थी तथा अनासक्त भाव से समस्त भूमंडल में विचरती थी, वो आठवें वसु प्रभास की धर्मपत्नी हुई। उन्हीं के पुत्र रूप में सहस्त्रों शिल्पों के कर्ता , देवताओं के शिल्पी एवं आचार्य महाभाग अर्थात महाभाग्यशाली प्रजापति देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी विश्वकर्मा प्रकट हुए। ऊपर प्रस्तुत किये गए शास्त्रीय प्रमाणों से यह ज्ञात होता है कि देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा की माता जी ब्राह्मण श्रेष्ठ देवगुरु बृहस्पति की बहन एवं ब्रह्मऋषि अंगिरा की पुत्री हैं, उनके पिता धर्म ऋषि के पुत्र आठवें वसु प्रभास हैं। उपर्युक्त प्रमाणों से यह सिद्ध होता है कि विश्वकर्मा जी की माता वरस्त्री(भुवना) शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण कुल की थी क्योंकि वह ब्राह्मण श्रेष्ठ देवगुरु बृहस्पति की बहन और ब्रह्मऋषि अंगिरा की पुत्री थी उनको ब्रह्मवादिनी और योगसिद्धा भी कहा गया है।
अब हम आपको भविष्य पुराण के प्रमाणों से देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी के पिता अष्टम वसु ऋषि प्रभास के ब्राह्मण कुल के होने का का प्रमाण प्रस्तुत करेंगे। ब्रह्मा के पुत्र धर्म और धर्म के पुत्र अष्टम वसु प्रभास शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण जाति के हैं इसका प्रमाण भविष्य पुराण के एक कथा से प्रमाणित होता है जिसमें सूत जी महर्षि शौनक को वसुओं की उत्पत्ति एवं कुल वंश का परिचय देते हैं ;
(भविष्यपुराण/पर्व ३ (प्रतिसर्गपर्व)/खण्ड-४/अध्याय-१७ / श्लोक - ८२ व ८८) अर्थात - रुद्र के अंश से उत्पन्न दुर्वासा 'प्रत्यूष' नामक सातवें वसु हैं। दत्तात्रेय के अवतार योगी 'प्रभास' अष्टम वसु हैं। वसु प्रभास शांतिपुरी में ब्राह्मण के कुल में उत्पन्न हुए थे। हे शौनक! मैंने तुमसे वसुओं की महानता का वर्णन किया।
सभी को यह ज्ञात होना चाहिए कि शास्त्रों के अनुसार अष्टम वसु प्रभास धर्म ऋषि के पुत्र हैं और धर्म ऋषि ब्रह्मा जी के पुत्र हैं। धर्म ऋषि का विवाह दक्ष कन्या वसु से हुआ था जिस कारण धर्म ऋषि के आंठों पुत्र वसु या वसुगण कहलाते हैं जिनमें से आठवें वसु प्रभाष जी के पुत्र देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी हैं। उपर्युक्त, सभी प्रमाणों से यह सिद्ध होता है कि भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण माता-पिता की संतान हैं।
- (स्कन्दपुराण/खण्डः ७ (प्रभासखण्ड)/प्रभासक्षेत्र माहात्म्यम्/अध्यायः ०११/श्लोक - ७५)
अर्थात - देवताओं के आचार्य विश्वकर्मा की सुंदर पुत्री जो है वो तीनों लोकों में सुरेणु के नाम से प्रसिद्ध है।
(हरिवंशपुराण/पर्व २ (विष्णुपर्व)/अध्यायः ०५८,श्लोक -२२)
अर्थात - उसी क्षण देवताओं में श्रेष्ठ महान बुद्धिजीवी देवताओं के शिल्प के आचार्य विश्वकर्मा जी भगवान कृष्ण के सामने प्रकट हुए।
(राजा भोज रचित समरांगण सूत्रधार-अध्याय - १,श्लोक -१९) अर्थात -वह (त्वष्टा प्रजापति विश्वकर्मा जी) देवताओं के आचार्य हैं और सभी सिद्धियों के अधिष्ठाता हैं। ये अष्टम वसु प्रभाष के पुत्र औऱ देवगुरू बृहस्पति के भांजे हैं।
- (मार्कण्डेयपुराण/अध्याय - ७७/श्लोक - ४१)
अर्थात - संज्ञा के पिता विश्वकर्मा जी से सूर्य ने कहा - हे ब्राह्मण , आप मेरा तेज घटा दीजिये।
उपर्युक्त, प्रमाणों से ये सिद्ध होता है कि देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी विश्वकर्मा जी शुद्ध ब्राह्मण कुल के हैं। साथ ही ऊपर प्रमाणों से ये भी सिद्ध हो चुका है कि भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी के माता पिता शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण कुल जाति के हैं। एक और बात सभी को विदित रहे की देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा के पुत्र विश्वरूप हैं जो देवताओं के आचार्य पुरोहित थे उनकी हत्या के कारण देवराज इंद्र को ब्रह्महत्या का पाप लगा था इसके प्रमाण भी अनेक शास्त्रों में अंकित हैं इसकी पुष्टि सभी विद्वान कर सकते हैं।
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Change "They prefer the alternate name, Vishwabrahmin, and claim themselves to be Brahmin or of high-status in the caste hierarchy, although these claims are not generally accepted outside the community." to "They are also known as Vishwabrahmin and belong in the top of the caste hierarchy."
Change "In Kerala, the Vishwakarmas have claimed a higher social status for many years, and believe that the trades which they traditionally follow are superior to the work of a manual labourer because they require artistic and scientific skills as well as those of the hand." to "In Kerala, the Vishwakarmas have a higher social status as their trades which they traditionally follow are superior since it requires artistic, mathematical and scientific skills as well as those of the hand."
Change "This claim to Brahmin status is not generally accepted outside the community, despite their assumption of some high-caste traits, such as wearing the sacred thread, and the Brahminisation of their rituals. For example, the sociologist M. N. Srinivas, who developed the concept of sanskritisation, juxtaposed the success of the Lingayat caste in achieving advancement within Karnataka society by such means with the failure of the Vishwakarma to achieve the same. Their position as a left-hand caste has not aided their ambition.[12] They have been included in the list of Other Backward Classes in some states of India." to "They do not claim to have a status equal to Brahmins but they assume some traits from Brahmins as they believe to descendants of Lord Vishwakarma and also because of their holy work of constructing temples, temple idols and jewels for gods. " AMV050605 ( talk) 09:17, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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ఆంధ్రప్రదేశ్ లో విశ్వబ్రాహ్మణులు / విశ్వకర్మలు అనేక ఉప కులాలను కలిగి ఉన్నారు:
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Ashokkbhalse ( talk) 17:51, 25 November 2023 (UTC) Hey I found something about Vishwakarma community which is related to their gotra hierarchy. As this article is semi protected i am unable to that information.
Toddy skilled persons belongs Goud's so I suggest an edit for కల్లు గీత కార్మికుల from Telugu version of Wikipedia . U must know the difference. No viswabrahmin or viswakarma belongs to the work or toddy or Goud's. Both are different professions. 183.83.239.229 ( talk) 07:36, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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Generally no connection with brahman( remove this line ) VedanandVishwa70 ( talk) 07:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Give a notable people page in Google page and Vishwakarma caste Wikipedia 2409:4043:6ECB:6439:8C86:963D:C9AF:DFFA ( talk) 12:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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I would like to add some more data to the page Batmankiki ( talk) 16:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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Vishwabramin is more than a bramin...its true and they no need any permissions to prove 2406:7400:35:1B8:B8C3:BC6F:AD28:22D2 ( talk) 22:02, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Generally no accepted connections to Brahmins. This part has to be removed because it gives wrong information to people and creates confusion and some type of discrimination within the same brahmin community. The purusha sukta in vedas mentions community belonging to brahmin varna. 59.93.100.81 ( talk) 19:21, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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The information given in the article is wrong and you should read the history of Vishwakarma brahmins in Vedas, and then correct it here. 223.227.81.46 ( talk) 07:09, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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Vishwabrahmins belong to the ancient cult of brahmin varna, who were basically involved in metallurgy and temple’s vasthu designers Vanilabar ( talk) 08:20, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
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although having no general connection to the Brahmins, they use the term 'Brahmin' at the end of their community name. Vishwakarma are a social group of India, sometimes described as a caste. Vishwabrahman52 ( talk) 16:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Inspite of people providing all proper evidences of Vishwakarma being Brahmins the author still seems to be spreading hatred among people. First of all such statements should not be promoted from a platform like Wikipedia whose authenticity cannot even be proved by the author. Also the author should then proper evidences and citations if he considers the other way round of Vishwakarma's no direct connection to brahmin. Anyhow, such statements should be removed immediately whose source for truthfulness can not even be proved by the author. And this platform is not represent view of any specific person but should be based on facts. Nehasharma999 ( talk) 19:00, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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vishwakarma is a Brahmin caste which has higher caste position and no one declines it. Those were the old claims written, even priest only do the scared thread rituals to vishwakarma community and do accept that they are brahmin. 103.216.68.148 ( talk) 13:09, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी के श्रेष्ठ ब्राह्मण कुल वंश का शास्त्रीय प्रमाण।
सनातन वैदिक हिंदू धर्म में देवताओं के आचार्य एवं शिल्पी के रूप में वेद शास्त्र में प्रतिष्ठित देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा देवता की श्रेणी में होते हुए भी ब्राह्मण जाति के हैं जैसे देवगुरु बृहस्पति हैं। देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी विश्वकर्मा जी का कुल वंश भी शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण कुल है। सर्वप्रथम, निम्न विष्णु पुराण के प्रमाण से हम भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी के माता-पिता के कुल वंश के सन्दर्भ में प्रमाण प्रस्तुत करेंगे ;
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अर्थात - देवगुरु बृहस्पति की बहन वरस्त्री(भुवना), जो ब्रह्मचारिणी थी और सिद्ध योगिनी थी तथा अनासक्त भाव से समस्त भूमंडल में विचरती थी, वो आठवें वसु प्रभास की धर्मपत्नी हुई। उन्हीं के पुत्र रूप में सहस्त्रों शिल्पों के कर्ता , देवताओं के शिल्पी एवं आचार्य महाभाग अर्थात महाभाग्यशाली प्रजापति देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी विश्वकर्मा प्रकट हुए। ऊपर प्रस्तुत किये गए शास्त्रीय प्रमाणों से यह ज्ञात होता है कि देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा की माता जी ब्राह्मण श्रेष्ठ देवगुरु बृहस्पति की बहन एवं ब्रह्मऋषि अंगिरा की पुत्री हैं, उनके पिता धर्म ऋषि के पुत्र आठवें वसु प्रभास हैं। उपर्युक्त प्रमाणों से यह सिद्ध होता है कि विश्वकर्मा जी की माता वरस्त्री(भुवना) शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण कुल की थी क्योंकि वह ब्राह्मण श्रेष्ठ देवगुरु बृहस्पति की बहन और ब्रह्मऋषि अंगिरा की पुत्री थी उनको ब्रह्मवादिनी और योगसिद्धा भी कहा गया है।
अब हम आपको भविष्य पुराण के प्रमाणों से देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी के पिता अष्टम वसु ऋषि प्रभास के ब्राह्मण कुल के होने का का प्रमाण प्रस्तुत करेंगे। ब्रह्मा के पुत्र धर्म और धर्म के पुत्र अष्टम वसु प्रभास शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण जाति के हैं इसका प्रमाण भविष्य पुराण के एक कथा से प्रमाणित होता है जिसमें सूत जी महर्षि शौनक को वसुओं की उत्पत्ति एवं कुल वंश का परिचय देते हैं ;
(भविष्यपुराण/पर्व ३ (प्रतिसर्गपर्व)/खण्ड-४/अध्याय-१७ / श्लोक - ८२ व ८८) अर्थात - रुद्र के अंश से उत्पन्न दुर्वासा 'प्रत्यूष' नामक सातवें वसु हैं। दत्तात्रेय के अवतार योगी 'प्रभास' अष्टम वसु हैं। वसु प्रभास शांतिपुरी में ब्राह्मण के कुल में उत्पन्न हुए थे। हे शौनक! मैंने तुमसे वसुओं की महानता का वर्णन किया।
सभी को यह ज्ञात होना चाहिए कि शास्त्रों के अनुसार अष्टम वसु प्रभास धर्म ऋषि के पुत्र हैं और धर्म ऋषि ब्रह्मा जी के पुत्र हैं। धर्म ऋषि का विवाह दक्ष कन्या वसु से हुआ था जिस कारण धर्म ऋषि के आंठों पुत्र वसु या वसुगण कहलाते हैं जिनमें से आठवें वसु प्रभाष जी के पुत्र देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी हैं। उपर्युक्त, सभी प्रमाणों से यह सिद्ध होता है कि भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण माता-पिता की संतान हैं।
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अर्थात - देवताओं के आचार्य विश्वकर्मा की सुंदर पुत्री जो है वो तीनों लोकों में सुरेणु के नाम से प्रसिद्ध है।
(हरिवंशपुराण/पर्व २ (विष्णुपर्व)/अध्यायः ०५८,श्लोक -२२)
अर्थात - उसी क्षण देवताओं में श्रेष्ठ महान बुद्धिजीवी देवताओं के शिल्प के आचार्य विश्वकर्मा जी भगवान कृष्ण के सामने प्रकट हुए।
(राजा भोज रचित समरांगण सूत्रधार-अध्याय - १,श्लोक -१९) अर्थात -वह (त्वष्टा प्रजापति विश्वकर्मा जी) देवताओं के आचार्य हैं और सभी सिद्धियों के अधिष्ठाता हैं। ये अष्टम वसु प्रभाष के पुत्र औऱ देवगुरू बृहस्पति के भांजे हैं।
- (मार्कण्डेयपुराण/अध्याय - ७७/श्लोक - ४१)
अर्थात - संज्ञा के पिता विश्वकर्मा जी से सूर्य ने कहा - हे ब्राह्मण , आप मेरा तेज घटा दीजिये।
उपर्युक्त, प्रमाणों से ये सिद्ध होता है कि देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी विश्वकर्मा जी शुद्ध ब्राह्मण कुल के हैं। साथ ही ऊपर प्रमाणों से ये भी सिद्ध हो चुका है कि भगवान विश्वकर्मा जी के माता पिता शुद्ध रूप से ब्राह्मण कुल जाति के हैं। एक और बात सभी को विदित रहे की देवाचार्य देवशिल्पी भगवान विश्वकर्मा के पुत्र विश्वरूप हैं जो देवताओं के आचार्य पुरोहित थे उनकी हत्या के कारण देवराज इंद्र को ब्रह्महत्या का पाप लगा था इसके प्रमाण भी अनेक शास्त्रों में अंकित हैं इसकी पुष्टि सभी विद्वान कर सकते हैं।
Userabhishekthakur ( talk) 02:08, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Change "They prefer the alternate name, Vishwabrahmin, and claim themselves to be Brahmin or of high-status in the caste hierarchy, although these claims are not generally accepted outside the community." to "They are also known as Vishwabrahmin and belong in the top of the caste hierarchy."
Change "In Kerala, the Vishwakarmas have claimed a higher social status for many years, and believe that the trades which they traditionally follow are superior to the work of a manual labourer because they require artistic and scientific skills as well as those of the hand." to "In Kerala, the Vishwakarmas have a higher social status as their trades which they traditionally follow are superior since it requires artistic, mathematical and scientific skills as well as those of the hand."
Change "This claim to Brahmin status is not generally accepted outside the community, despite their assumption of some high-caste traits, such as wearing the sacred thread, and the Brahminisation of their rituals. For example, the sociologist M. N. Srinivas, who developed the concept of sanskritisation, juxtaposed the success of the Lingayat caste in achieving advancement within Karnataka society by such means with the failure of the Vishwakarma to achieve the same. Their position as a left-hand caste has not aided their ambition.[12] They have been included in the list of Other Backward Classes in some states of India." to "They do not claim to have a status equal to Brahmins but they assume some traits from Brahmins as they believe to descendants of Lord Vishwakarma and also because of their holy work of constructing temples, temple idols and jewels for gods. " AMV050605 ( talk) 09:17, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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117.251.238.91 ( talk) 01:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
ఆంధ్రప్రదేశ్ లో విశ్వబ్రాహ్మణులు / విశ్వకర్మలు అనేక ఉప కులాలను కలిగి ఉన్నారు:
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Ashokkbhalse ( talk) 17:51, 25 November 2023 (UTC) Hey I found something about Vishwakarma community which is related to their gotra hierarchy. As this article is semi protected i am unable to that information.
Toddy skilled persons belongs Goud's so I suggest an edit for కల్లు గీత కార్మికుల from Telugu version of Wikipedia . U must know the difference. No viswabrahmin or viswakarma belongs to the work or toddy or Goud's. Both are different professions. 183.83.239.229 ( talk) 07:36, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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Generally no connection with brahman( remove this line ) VedanandVishwa70 ( talk) 07:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Give a notable people page in Google page and Vishwakarma caste Wikipedia 2409:4043:6ECB:6439:8C86:963D:C9AF:DFFA ( talk) 12:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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I would like to add some more data to the page Batmankiki ( talk) 16:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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VedanandVishwa70 ( talk) 06:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Vishwabramin is more than a bramin...its true and they no need any permissions to prove 2406:7400:35:1B8:B8C3:BC6F:AD28:22D2 ( talk) 22:02, 9 July 2024 (UTC)