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power supply? an odd heading no?
Who cares, a person looking up visby is not looking for that kind of information. -- TheBigD 13:54, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
it's very peripheral information. People who look up Visby in general don't expect to find information about the electrical grid. If it got its own page let's keep it that way. -- TheBigD 22:27, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
I do. -- TheBigD 14:18, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
"Near Visby there is the static inverter plant"? it's not even in visby! You want to list everything in the vicinity? And who looks up an entry of a city if they want to find information about the electic grid structure of an entire island? Is this place a tourist attraction? If it is I've not heard about it while living there. -- TheBigD 20:31, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
I appreciate that WP is not a travel guide. It just seem to be so irrelevant for the topic. I guess, what I'm asking is, where do you draw the line? Popular restaurants in the vicinity, a three page essay of the battle that demolished part of the wall, the danish influence on the gotlandic dialect...? In any case it seems to me that any information about the power grid should be in the Gotland article instead since it serves the whole island and not just the city of Visby.-- TheBigD 01:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Do we really, really, really need to have a link to Visby class corvette up at the top? I think we could have it at the bottom instead, under See also. Jobjörn ( Talk ° contribs) 15:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
The two sentences Some affectionately call Visby the "city of roses and ruins" and natives to the island often just say "town". Whether it lives up to that distinction among other old Swedish cities is debatable. are confusing to me. I am not sure if the second sentence refers to "rosornas och ruinernas stad" - a well-known slogan - or referring to the town as "stan" (town). People call their local town "town" everywhere, it has nothing to do with Visby being more of a town than others. // Habj 00:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
"Gotland was again conquered by Sweden in 1645 at the Treaty of Brömsebro, after 300 years of Danish occupation." - Occupation sounds like a strange word for an area that has (as far as I know) legally been part of a nation for a time as extensive as 300 years. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.233.184.167 ( talk) 22:16:32, August 19, 2007 (UTC)
might "sanctified" or "consecrated" place be a better translation of "Vi", than "sacrifical"? 4.242.174.83 ( talk) 10:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
It's pronounced in Swedish as viz-bu (sort of like in bureau or Buchanan). Le Grand Bleu ( talk) 13:30, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
I just revised wording in the article to say that Gotland was ceded in 1645 to Sweden, by the Second Treaty of Brömsebro (1645) without saying it was "conquered". Using the word "conquered" would seem to imply that there was fighting on Gotland within the Torstenson War, but I think there was not. If Gotland was conquered in battle, then the Torstenson War article should be revised, too. Hope someone more expert here can review this. I can't directly read the Tacitus.Nu source that was cited at the end of the sentence that i revised. -- do ncr am 00:46, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
@ Wikid77: Why on earth do you think two maps are necessary for this article? That is not common practice for towns or cities. I see that you have placed it in the "History" section, and it might be warranted if borders, names or other geographical features were different from modern days but here they are the same. I think this second map is redundant and should be removed. cart -Talk 10:53, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Regional-map use sourced to City-data.com: The practice of showing regional-area maps for a town can be sourced to website City-data.com for thousands of towns (see regional map Lufkin, TX: [1], or Abilene: [2]). This regional-map concept is not my original idea ( wp:OR), but rather the use of regional maps has been ongoing for more than 10 years. Ideally, a town would have 3 maps: a local-area dot map, a city plan roadmap, and a regional-area map such as U.S. state or national region of nearby states. I think the multi-state map might be too wide, such as Lufkin compared to Wichita, Kansas, but that level is done by city-data.com. Be wary of consensus decisions as group opinion (even supra-majority), but rather seek consensus with major sources, such as city-data.com. For example the Template:Convert has remained incorrect by group consensus, showing {convert|28|-|29|oz|lb} as nonsense range 28–29 ounces (1.8–1.8 lb), both "1.8" rather than 2 correct amounts 1.75-1.81 lb, as precise calculation sourced to NIST, where conversion precision increases by +1 decimal digit for lower first digit. Similarly, use of regional maps should be sourced to major references, rather than appeal to group consensus which is often incorrect compared to wp:RS reliable sources. Perhaps many regional maps have been deleted by POV-warrior users who delete hundreds or thousands, to disguise widespread usage as "few". Wikid77 ( talk) 16:14, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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power supply? an odd heading no?
Who cares, a person looking up visby is not looking for that kind of information. -- TheBigD 13:54, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
it's very peripheral information. People who look up Visby in general don't expect to find information about the electrical grid. If it got its own page let's keep it that way. -- TheBigD 22:27, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
I do. -- TheBigD 14:18, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
"Near Visby there is the static inverter plant"? it's not even in visby! You want to list everything in the vicinity? And who looks up an entry of a city if they want to find information about the electic grid structure of an entire island? Is this place a tourist attraction? If it is I've not heard about it while living there. -- TheBigD 20:31, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
I appreciate that WP is not a travel guide. It just seem to be so irrelevant for the topic. I guess, what I'm asking is, where do you draw the line? Popular restaurants in the vicinity, a three page essay of the battle that demolished part of the wall, the danish influence on the gotlandic dialect...? In any case it seems to me that any information about the power grid should be in the Gotland article instead since it serves the whole island and not just the city of Visby.-- TheBigD 01:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Do we really, really, really need to have a link to Visby class corvette up at the top? I think we could have it at the bottom instead, under See also. Jobjörn ( Talk ° contribs) 15:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
The two sentences Some affectionately call Visby the "city of roses and ruins" and natives to the island often just say "town". Whether it lives up to that distinction among other old Swedish cities is debatable. are confusing to me. I am not sure if the second sentence refers to "rosornas och ruinernas stad" - a well-known slogan - or referring to the town as "stan" (town). People call their local town "town" everywhere, it has nothing to do with Visby being more of a town than others. // Habj 00:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
"Gotland was again conquered by Sweden in 1645 at the Treaty of Brömsebro, after 300 years of Danish occupation." - Occupation sounds like a strange word for an area that has (as far as I know) legally been part of a nation for a time as extensive as 300 years. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.233.184.167 ( talk) 22:16:32, August 19, 2007 (UTC)
might "sanctified" or "consecrated" place be a better translation of "Vi", than "sacrifical"? 4.242.174.83 ( talk) 10:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
It's pronounced in Swedish as viz-bu (sort of like in bureau or Buchanan). Le Grand Bleu ( talk) 13:30, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
I just revised wording in the article to say that Gotland was ceded in 1645 to Sweden, by the Second Treaty of Brömsebro (1645) without saying it was "conquered". Using the word "conquered" would seem to imply that there was fighting on Gotland within the Torstenson War, but I think there was not. If Gotland was conquered in battle, then the Torstenson War article should be revised, too. Hope someone more expert here can review this. I can't directly read the Tacitus.Nu source that was cited at the end of the sentence that i revised. -- do ncr am 00:46, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
@ Wikid77: Why on earth do you think two maps are necessary for this article? That is not common practice for towns or cities. I see that you have placed it in the "History" section, and it might be warranted if borders, names or other geographical features were different from modern days but here they are the same. I think this second map is redundant and should be removed. cart -Talk 10:53, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Regional-map use sourced to City-data.com: The practice of showing regional-area maps for a town can be sourced to website City-data.com for thousands of towns (see regional map Lufkin, TX: [1], or Abilene: [2]). This regional-map concept is not my original idea ( wp:OR), but rather the use of regional maps has been ongoing for more than 10 years. Ideally, a town would have 3 maps: a local-area dot map, a city plan roadmap, and a regional-area map such as U.S. state or national region of nearby states. I think the multi-state map might be too wide, such as Lufkin compared to Wichita, Kansas, but that level is done by city-data.com. Be wary of consensus decisions as group opinion (even supra-majority), but rather seek consensus with major sources, such as city-data.com. For example the Template:Convert has remained incorrect by group consensus, showing {convert|28|-|29|oz|lb} as nonsense range 28–29 ounces (1.8–1.8 lb), both "1.8" rather than 2 correct amounts 1.75-1.81 lb, as precise calculation sourced to NIST, where conversion precision increases by +1 decimal digit for lower first digit. Similarly, use of regional maps should be sourced to major references, rather than appeal to group consensus which is often incorrect compared to wp:RS reliable sources. Perhaps many regional maps have been deleted by POV-warrior users who delete hundreds or thousands, to disguise widespread usage as "few". Wikid77 ( talk) 16:14, 29 March 2018 (UTC)