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I am not a philospher, but I smell wank in this paragraph from the article.
If you agree, please delete it. ike9898 04:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I would say that this article lacks citations. The only published source it cites is an online english dictionary. The article called "Meditations on the real and the virtual" returned no hits on google. I would assume the author added this article himself, since the article is only in French, so the title of the article would most likely also be in French, yet it is not given! Anyone can voice an opinion on the talk page. That does not mean it should be added to the article's entry. I propose deletion. Cameodemon ( talk) 06:45, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Referring to any posting as "wank" is just impolite and I would suggest that sort of comment should be deleted. However I am a philosopher and can say how much in agreement with Professor Denis Berthier I am. He has published several books and Google confirms that he is recognized outside this article. -- Eddy ( talk| contribs) 02:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
It's long past time to turn virtual into a dab page given that there are over 100 articles that start with "virtual". Virtual has been tagged for such a change for over one year. The only objection to the reorganization has been that if the two sections currently in the article were made into separate articles, each would be "too short". To me, that's not a reason to keep the current confusing structure. I'd like to find the best home for the current philosophy section. The possibilities I see are:
UncleDouggie ( talk) 23:42, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Here is my take, from the little I know about "virtual":
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virtual article outline:
[based on M-W, OED or other dictionary, etc.]
In computing, for example:
In philosophy, for example
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The philosophy of Deleuze is about the virtual, but I know of no other philosopher who speaks of the virtual in isolation from "virtual reality", except those who study the works of Deleuze or Duns_Scotus - who coined the term "virtual" - and his followers (correct me if I'm wrong).
I would abstain from creating virtual (philosophy) as I don't see it's importance without the context of Deleuze. However, it is possible to create virtual_reality (philosophy). Virtual reality (VR) in contemporary philosophy is used as a metaphor in philosophy for consciousness (Revonsuo), or interpreted in its own right either as technology mediating experience with an ontology of its own (e.g. Philip_Zhai), as media (Philip Brey, computer ethics), or as narrative (Shaun Gallagher, philosophy of mind). The philosophy behind the movie The Matrix was inspired by philosopher Baudrillard and the movie has inspired arguments using virtual reality ( David_Chalmers). In addition Michael Heim has written on the metaphysics of virtual reality.
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virtual_reality (philosophy) article outline:
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I assume VR would be considered a low priority article within the scope of the philosophy project. As a concept it has emerged rather late in philosophy.
Ostracon ( talk) 13:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
I am not a philospher, but I smell wank in this paragraph from the article.
If you agree, please delete it. ike9898 04:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I would say that this article lacks citations. The only published source it cites is an online english dictionary. The article called "Meditations on the real and the virtual" returned no hits on google. I would assume the author added this article himself, since the article is only in French, so the title of the article would most likely also be in French, yet it is not given! Anyone can voice an opinion on the talk page. That does not mean it should be added to the article's entry. I propose deletion. Cameodemon ( talk) 06:45, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Referring to any posting as "wank" is just impolite and I would suggest that sort of comment should be deleted. However I am a philosopher and can say how much in agreement with Professor Denis Berthier I am. He has published several books and Google confirms that he is recognized outside this article. -- Eddy ( talk| contribs) 02:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
It's long past time to turn virtual into a dab page given that there are over 100 articles that start with "virtual". Virtual has been tagged for such a change for over one year. The only objection to the reorganization has been that if the two sections currently in the article were made into separate articles, each would be "too short". To me, that's not a reason to keep the current confusing structure. I'd like to find the best home for the current philosophy section. The possibilities I see are:
UncleDouggie ( talk) 23:42, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Here is my take, from the little I know about "virtual":
_________________________________________
virtual article outline:
[based on M-W, OED or other dictionary, etc.]
In computing, for example:
In philosophy, for example
_________________________________________
The philosophy of Deleuze is about the virtual, but I know of no other philosopher who speaks of the virtual in isolation from "virtual reality", except those who study the works of Deleuze or Duns_Scotus - who coined the term "virtual" - and his followers (correct me if I'm wrong).
I would abstain from creating virtual (philosophy) as I don't see it's importance without the context of Deleuze. However, it is possible to create virtual_reality (philosophy). Virtual reality (VR) in contemporary philosophy is used as a metaphor in philosophy for consciousness (Revonsuo), or interpreted in its own right either as technology mediating experience with an ontology of its own (e.g. Philip_Zhai), as media (Philip Brey, computer ethics), or as narrative (Shaun Gallagher, philosophy of mind). The philosophy behind the movie The Matrix was inspired by philosopher Baudrillard and the movie has inspired arguments using virtual reality ( David_Chalmers). In addition Michael Heim has written on the metaphysics of virtual reality.
_________________________________________________________
virtual_reality (philosophy) article outline:
_________________________________________________________
I assume VR would be considered a low priority article within the scope of the philosophy project. As a concept it has emerged rather late in philosophy.
Ostracon ( talk) 13:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)