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I would agree that the page "Virtual server" should be merged into "Virtual private server" since the term "virtual server" is ambiguous; it is often used to refer to the Web sites served by a Web server such as Apache. "Virtual dedicated server" or "Virtual private server" is entirely clear, however
FYI, I am the Managing Director of Memset Ltd which specialises in Virtual dedicated server hosting.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khcw77 ( talk • contribs) .
I suggest the addition of the downside (negative) benefits of using a Virtual Private Server versus a traditional stand-alone dedicated server. There are millions of commercial customers who use resource intensive software, such as VBulletin forum software, where a VPS will simply not suffice. -- Legal Affairs 15:41, 1 December 2012
There was a section named Virtual Private Server hosting providers. There are tens of thousands hosting service providers, and pretty much every one of them are offering VPS hosting in this or that manner. Say, I know that 10 of 10 biggest HSPs in Europe are using Virtuozzo – but that is not a reason to put links to their sites to this article. So this section made no real sense – one can get VPS hosting from every HSP. Still I agree that a few years ago it was not the case and VPS offerings were unique. But nowdays it's not so, that is why I think this section make no real sense and so I removed it. If you want to discuss that matter, please read Wikipedia:External links first. -- K001 11:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I think the two should be merged since they cover the same basic topic. Also, both are stubs and their merged content should be extended. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mfdragosh ( talk • contribs) .
I am agree with merging this 2 article together. (I mean merging Virtual server and Virtual private server) -- Messi 12:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Definitely NOT the same topic.
Server virtualization, especially within UNIX, also refers to technologies such as IBM virtual I/O server, logical partitioning, dynamic LPAR, micropartitioning and various storage virtualization technologies. Its made possible by the use of a hypervisor, a technology adapted from the IBM mainframe.
VPS is a niche technology almost exclusively targeted at Linux and Windows and always implemented at the software layer. In comparison to true server virtualization, it is immature and is nothing more than implementing virtual machines at the application software layer. -- FASherman 15:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that "server virtualization" now redirects to "virtual server." The topic of "server virtualization" is broader than the meaning that many people apply to "virtual private server." Many people structure the topic of server virtualization as follows:
The myriad of virtualized solutions which use one or more of those types of server virtualization includes: in-house server consolidation, internet hosting services (hosting of web servers, blogs, images, videos, games, files, etc.) and perhaps other solutions.
I suggest that we create a "server virtualization" page which describes the broader context, including a link to "virtual private server" to discuss that sub-topic, and redirect "virtual server" to "server virtualization" so that people find all of the terms and their meanings.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by JeffV ( talk • contribs) .
I agree with the parent post. To me, VPS is an Operating-system-level virtualization system (such as a FreeBSD jail or Docker) provided as a service. It is professionally maintained and has better privilege separation than a basic chroot jail but is not as segregated (and therefore not as secure) as a full blown virtual machine, which provides the whole hardware stack to a guest operating system. JeffV went even further in his above comment, talking about the hardware stack being implemented as either a mapping (like VMware) or via emulation (like QEMU). Emulation lets you run e.g. an i386 guest on a SPARC host system while mapping is faster due to its one fewer layer of implementation and can better take advantage of hardware optimizations.
I'd therefore like to see this page largely scrapped, with some of it merging into Virtual machine, some into Operating-system-level virtualization, and the rest into Cloud computing. I actually don't expect much of this page's content to be useful elsewhere, especially since nearly nothing here relates to VPS (OS virtualization). Adam Katz Δ ☎ 01:52, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
I consult for lylix.net where we provide linux VPS hosting mostly centered around asterisk VOIP services. I must say I'm rather surprised that this rather active segment of the VPS market is not reflected anywhere in the article. The guy who runs Lylix loves OSS and Wikipedia, and what I want to know is, is there anything from the site (text or images) that could be used to make this article better, I'm sure he'd be all for it. If anyone responds to this comment, I can personally put up whatever material there is useful. Eric and I have gotten a lot of use out of Wikipedia (which is why I've done so many edits myself) and we hope that this article, which is rather near and dear to our hearts (and wallets) can be expanded to better educate visitors.
Please let me know what I can do to make this article more complete. Also I'm glad that people are able to fight off all the ridiculous spam that's been filling up this kind of page. Good work guys. - JustinWick 02:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Please be on the lookout for SEO keyword spammers adding links inside articles.-- 81.68.125.220 ( talk) 09:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Is cloud hosting a form of virtual private serving, or vice versa? On the one hand, with cloud hosting, multiple virtual servers might exist on one physical server, but I suppose it could work the opposite way too — multiple physical servers could be used to implement one virtual server. E.g., if enwiki were to use cloud hosting, it might take more than one physical server due to the amount of storage and data transfer required for the website. Tisane ( talk) 16:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is really worth discussing, but why is OpenVZ listed as a "paravirtualization-capable hypervisor"? OpenVZ doesn't even qualify as a hypervisor, much less software that supports paravirtualization, unless something drastically has changed lately that I'm not aware of. OpenVZ's own wiki clearly implies this fact: http://wiki.openvz.org/Introduction_to_virtualization —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xirgot ( talk • contribs) 16:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC) جواد —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.109.196.9 ( talk) 02:52, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
customers have superuser-level access to that operating system instance
Not always. E.g,, Dreamhost. Jidanni ( talk) 00:16, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
I recently put the “advert section” template on the Motivation section. The issues were fairly obvious and I didn't feel the need to esplain myself beyond the addition ofthe “you” template, and some “peacock” and “weasel” inline templates. Noctlosis helped fix the tagged issues, but the tags were not comprehensive, so I feel like I need to detail the issues I see with the section so that more knowledgable people can fix them more easily. I had initially done this as part of a single post, but accidentally reloaded and lost all that work, so I will now be doing it as separate replies to this post. Bhbuehler ( talk) 23:47, 17 January 2023 (UTC) Edited for correct mention syntax. Bhbuehler ( talk) 23:50, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Most of the sentances are paraphrased and appear in the first, second and third paragraphs. A few only appear in two of the three paragraphs.
Every sentence in the third paragraph is paraphrased from the first paragraph. Bhbuehler ( talk) 00:12, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Bhbuehler ( talk) 00:32, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Like Bhbuehler explained above, there are a lot of issues with that section, it feels totally misleading to what the article should be, with that said, I removed it. Oym8Ug0tdasauce ( talk) 09:00, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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I would agree that the page "Virtual server" should be merged into "Virtual private server" since the term "virtual server" is ambiguous; it is often used to refer to the Web sites served by a Web server such as Apache. "Virtual dedicated server" or "Virtual private server" is entirely clear, however
FYI, I am the Managing Director of Memset Ltd which specialises in Virtual dedicated server hosting.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khcw77 ( talk • contribs) .
I suggest the addition of the downside (negative) benefits of using a Virtual Private Server versus a traditional stand-alone dedicated server. There are millions of commercial customers who use resource intensive software, such as VBulletin forum software, where a VPS will simply not suffice. -- Legal Affairs 15:41, 1 December 2012
There was a section named Virtual Private Server hosting providers. There are tens of thousands hosting service providers, and pretty much every one of them are offering VPS hosting in this or that manner. Say, I know that 10 of 10 biggest HSPs in Europe are using Virtuozzo – but that is not a reason to put links to their sites to this article. So this section made no real sense – one can get VPS hosting from every HSP. Still I agree that a few years ago it was not the case and VPS offerings were unique. But nowdays it's not so, that is why I think this section make no real sense and so I removed it. If you want to discuss that matter, please read Wikipedia:External links first. -- K001 11:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I think the two should be merged since they cover the same basic topic. Also, both are stubs and their merged content should be extended. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mfdragosh ( talk • contribs) .
I am agree with merging this 2 article together. (I mean merging Virtual server and Virtual private server) -- Messi 12:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Definitely NOT the same topic.
Server virtualization, especially within UNIX, also refers to technologies such as IBM virtual I/O server, logical partitioning, dynamic LPAR, micropartitioning and various storage virtualization technologies. Its made possible by the use of a hypervisor, a technology adapted from the IBM mainframe.
VPS is a niche technology almost exclusively targeted at Linux and Windows and always implemented at the software layer. In comparison to true server virtualization, it is immature and is nothing more than implementing virtual machines at the application software layer. -- FASherman 15:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that "server virtualization" now redirects to "virtual server." The topic of "server virtualization" is broader than the meaning that many people apply to "virtual private server." Many people structure the topic of server virtualization as follows:
The myriad of virtualized solutions which use one or more of those types of server virtualization includes: in-house server consolidation, internet hosting services (hosting of web servers, blogs, images, videos, games, files, etc.) and perhaps other solutions.
I suggest that we create a "server virtualization" page which describes the broader context, including a link to "virtual private server" to discuss that sub-topic, and redirect "virtual server" to "server virtualization" so that people find all of the terms and their meanings.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by JeffV ( talk • contribs) .
I agree with the parent post. To me, VPS is an Operating-system-level virtualization system (such as a FreeBSD jail or Docker) provided as a service. It is professionally maintained and has better privilege separation than a basic chroot jail but is not as segregated (and therefore not as secure) as a full blown virtual machine, which provides the whole hardware stack to a guest operating system. JeffV went even further in his above comment, talking about the hardware stack being implemented as either a mapping (like VMware) or via emulation (like QEMU). Emulation lets you run e.g. an i386 guest on a SPARC host system while mapping is faster due to its one fewer layer of implementation and can better take advantage of hardware optimizations.
I'd therefore like to see this page largely scrapped, with some of it merging into Virtual machine, some into Operating-system-level virtualization, and the rest into Cloud computing. I actually don't expect much of this page's content to be useful elsewhere, especially since nearly nothing here relates to VPS (OS virtualization). Adam Katz Δ ☎ 01:52, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
I consult for lylix.net where we provide linux VPS hosting mostly centered around asterisk VOIP services. I must say I'm rather surprised that this rather active segment of the VPS market is not reflected anywhere in the article. The guy who runs Lylix loves OSS and Wikipedia, and what I want to know is, is there anything from the site (text or images) that could be used to make this article better, I'm sure he'd be all for it. If anyone responds to this comment, I can personally put up whatever material there is useful. Eric and I have gotten a lot of use out of Wikipedia (which is why I've done so many edits myself) and we hope that this article, which is rather near and dear to our hearts (and wallets) can be expanded to better educate visitors.
Please let me know what I can do to make this article more complete. Also I'm glad that people are able to fight off all the ridiculous spam that's been filling up this kind of page. Good work guys. - JustinWick 02:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Please be on the lookout for SEO keyword spammers adding links inside articles.-- 81.68.125.220 ( talk) 09:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Is cloud hosting a form of virtual private serving, or vice versa? On the one hand, with cloud hosting, multiple virtual servers might exist on one physical server, but I suppose it could work the opposite way too — multiple physical servers could be used to implement one virtual server. E.g., if enwiki were to use cloud hosting, it might take more than one physical server due to the amount of storage and data transfer required for the website. Tisane ( talk) 16:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is really worth discussing, but why is OpenVZ listed as a "paravirtualization-capable hypervisor"? OpenVZ doesn't even qualify as a hypervisor, much less software that supports paravirtualization, unless something drastically has changed lately that I'm not aware of. OpenVZ's own wiki clearly implies this fact: http://wiki.openvz.org/Introduction_to_virtualization —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xirgot ( talk • contribs) 16:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC) جواد —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.109.196.9 ( talk) 02:52, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
customers have superuser-level access to that operating system instance
Not always. E.g,, Dreamhost. Jidanni ( talk) 00:16, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
I recently put the “advert section” template on the Motivation section. The issues were fairly obvious and I didn't feel the need to esplain myself beyond the addition ofthe “you” template, and some “peacock” and “weasel” inline templates. Noctlosis helped fix the tagged issues, but the tags were not comprehensive, so I feel like I need to detail the issues I see with the section so that more knowledgable people can fix them more easily. I had initially done this as part of a single post, but accidentally reloaded and lost all that work, so I will now be doing it as separate replies to this post. Bhbuehler ( talk) 23:47, 17 January 2023 (UTC) Edited for correct mention syntax. Bhbuehler ( talk) 23:50, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Most of the sentances are paraphrased and appear in the first, second and third paragraphs. A few only appear in two of the three paragraphs.
Every sentence in the third paragraph is paraphrased from the first paragraph. Bhbuehler ( talk) 00:12, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Bhbuehler ( talk) 00:32, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Like Bhbuehler explained above, there are a lot of issues with that section, it feels totally misleading to what the article should be, with that said, I removed it. Oym8Ug0tdasauce ( talk) 09:00, 3 June 2023 (UTC)