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i remember reading somewhere that poe called her "sis" as a nickname —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ian-Callihan ( talk • contribs) 16:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC).
I can't believe people editing such major articles don't even know how to spell conventional.--
74.131.91.57 (
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Okay, I've been keeping an eye out for Virginia's full name. I have yet to find any source that calls her "Virginia Eliza Clemm Poe." I'm proposing this article be moved to "Virginia Clemm Poe" unless someone can find a source that gives "Eliza" as her middle name. Thanks! -- Midnightdreary 23:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm hoping I am avoiding ambiguity here, but the article currently refers to Virginia Eliza Clemm Poe as "Virginia" throughout, not by either of her last names. Her husband is referred to consistently as "Poe", except in the section which also mentions Neilson Poe. In that section, one is Edgar, the other is Neilson. I'm hoping this is a safe way to refer to them without being ambiguous or informal. Any thoughts? -- Midnightdreary ( talk) 16:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the above comment. It seems that "Poe" should refer to the subject of the article and not to the subject's husband. At the very least they should be referred to by their first names to avoid ambiguity. I was initially very confused by mentions of "Poe's" alleged affair, for example. Additionally, it might strike some as a little sexist that the subject of the article gets referred to by her first name while her husband is defined by his surname. 24.255.34.200 ( talk) 19:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm just going to go ahead and pass this. It's impeccably well-sourced. It's generally well-written. It's engaging and interesting. I see no significant problems with MoS or images (though I'm no expert in either). No problems with NPOV, edit wars, etc.
There is, of course, room for improvement. Some of the writing is sometimes a little awkward. There are a lot of short sentences. And in some ways if anything it's over-sourced: you keep tripping over footnotes. So sometimes it doesn't flow as well as it might: the over all effect is rather staccato. There are perhaps too many details. No doubt there's some over-compensation for what is, in the end, a rather short and relatively uneventful life!
I've made a bunch of copy-edits, and there are some questions hidden away in the text.
But this was a nice article to read. I do recommend you work on it further and submit it to FAC.
Congratulations! -- jbmurray ( talk| contribs) 02:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
This was such an enjoyable article to read! Thanks! I just have a few suggestions:
I hope these suggestions are helpful and I look forward to seeing the article at FAC. Let me know when the featured topic is ready, too! Awadewit ( talk) 18:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Hoffman's book is given such a silly title that I was pretty sure it was fictional. So I looked it up at the LoC.
Turns out it actually exists, but it was published in 1998.
I don't want to "fix" the year of publication: perhaps there was an earlier edition, to which somebody attached the ISBN of a later edition. -- Hoary ( talk) 16:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Though it seems strange that Virginia Clemm would permit hubby, Edgar Poe to be a close friend to Frances Sargent Osgood, but Frances was a "benefactor" to them both, and Virginia approved of their literary friendship. Frances had a popular reciting parlor in The Brooklyn Heights section of Brooklyn. It was a place where Poe could hob nob with the literary elite of his day. Frances Sargent Osgood's maiden name was Frances S. Locke, a descent of " The Locke Family of New England" that were related to famed individuals, Dr. John Locke and Rev. Jonathan Edwards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aedwardmoch ( talk • contribs) 18:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, let me explain why I made the edits I did. If you choose to ignore them, OK, but there are times when I get so fed up with the vast multitude of misconceptions and errors about Poe and his wife that get repeated over and over and over again, that I sometimes blow a gasket and feel I have to get my two cents in somehow.
First of all, you got Virginia's birthdate wrong. If you'll check Quinn's bio, he prints the church records that say she was born August 15. You really must change that, at the very least.
I changed the phrase "alleged amorous improprieties," because, while there was certainly negative gossip surrounding Poe--particularly regarding the business about Elizabeth Ellet's letters--there is no contemporary record of what, exactly, it was. English, Briggs, and Lewis Gaylord Clark, for example, accused Poe of practically everything under the sun EXCEPT adultery.
The lady Poe allegedly had a romance with in Baltimore in the early 1830s was not named Mary Devereaux. That was a mistake someone made in the early 1900s, in an effort to identify her. The woman who was the subject of the 1889 "Poe's Mary" article has since (on the testimony of her granddaughter) been identified as Mary Starr Jennings. She had no relative named "Devereaux." (The "Poe's Mary" article itself is a very dubious story that shouldn't be repeated anywhere as unquestioned fact, but that's a whole other subject.)
When discussing Poe and Virginia's marriage, I think it would be fair for you to state that we simply don't know what their sex life (or lack of) may have been, but aside from their childlessness, there is no reason to belive it was not a "normal" one, at least until she took ill. Even the claim they waited two years to consummate the marriage is questionable. As Poe biographer William Bittner commented, considering they were already living together as brother and sister, there really was no reason for Poe and Virginia to marry unless they wanted to go to bed together.
My statement that the earliest known manuscript version of the Valentine poem for Osgood is in Virginia's handwriting is simple fact. There is a digital image of the manuscript available online. Please take a look at it, and then at an image of her poem to Edgar. Identical writing. They are both even written on the same floral-embossed stationary. That's not speculation; it's the truth, and, I think, a rather interesting mystery.
In all fairness, I think you should make it clear that the claim that Virginia encouraged Poe's friendship with Fanny Osgood rests only on Osgood's testimony--given only after both the Poes were dead and not available for either confirmation or refutation. There is nothing that backs up her claim. I'd file that statement under the category of, "She WOULD say that, wouldn't she?"
In the interests of accuracy, I think it's always important to note sources. The source for the whole "Ellet got Osgood to demand that Poe return her letters" story is Sarah Helen Whitman. She gave this story thirty years after the fact, citing Anne Lynch as her source. (Lynch herself, when asked, denied knowing anything about the tale.) SHW, I have found, is a generally highly unreliable source, and as there is no corroboration for this extremely strange story (if Osgood wanted her letters back, why didn't she quietly ask Poe herself, rather than stage a public scene over it?) I think it should be retold with certain qualifiers.
Griswold, years later, claimed that Sam Osgood had threatened to sue Ellet. We have no other contemporary evidence for this. (Griswold himself is hardly Mister Reliable.) I find it hard to believe Sam would want his wife's alleged indiscretions aired in a court of law. Griswold himself doesn't state what such a lawsuit might have been about. (By the way, the Osgoods were never estranged. This is a misconception started by Thomas Mabbott, who imagined an 1845 separation based on a poem she published in Dec. 1844, chiding an unnamed "you" for preferring the company of others to herself. That's all his evidence! Sam traveled a lot because of the nature of his work, but there is nothing to indicate a rift in their marriage--certainly not at the time she knew Poe. In fact, I have a copy of a letter she wrote her husband in May 1845--right during the period she was publicly gushing over Poe--where she addresses Sam as "My darling love," and coos to him throughout in the most lovey-dovey way imaginable. Please, I beg you, put that particular bit of fiction to rest.)
The letter Poe wrote about Virginia's illness ("Each time I felt all the agonies...") was not written to John Ingram. It was written to George W. Eveleth. Ingram merely published the letter in his biography. That is another inarguable error in your article.
The notion that Virginia had "violet eyes" and a "bad complexion" comes only from that bizarre "Poe's Mary" article. (That article, as I indicated above, deserves a complete smackdown all its own, but space forbids.) You yourself go on to describe her eyes as "dark," then as "hazel."
Those stories about Virginia clasping Poe's and Mary Starr's hands together, and showing Mrs. Shew letters written by the second Mrs. Allan--you really should make it clear that these claims are uncorroborated and, (as many Poe biographers admit) extremely dubious.
The idea that Poe "attempted to woo" Osgood is another debatable point. All the evidence suggests she pursued an acquaintance with him. You really shouldn't fall into the common error among Poe biographers--namely, presenting supposition as fact.
That about wraps it up. I have my problems with you relying so heavily on Silverman's rather juvenile attempts to make all of Poe's fiction autobiographical, but I suppose that's a relatively minor point. Please consider everything I have said here, because it is all factual. Which is more than can be said for the majority of things published about Poe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoeundine ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
In the Biography (as it is today), the first sentence of Early Life seems odd to me: "Virginia Eliza Clemm was born on August 15, 1822[1] and named after an older sister who had died as an infant[2] only ten days earlier.[3]" I don't mean to stir up the previous discussion, but does this also seems to say that her mother had multiple births within an unusually short period of time. Jace1 ( talk) 19:07, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
"Some biographers have suggested that the couple's relationship was more like that between brother and sister than like husband and wife in that they never consummated their marriage."
Is there any actual proof that they did not consumate their marriage. While I'm sure they probably did not seeing as how she so ill. It seems like the article is presenting it as fact and not a theory. Note I am not an expert Thesniperremix ( talk) 13:40, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I know. I was commenting on the way it is worded.
"Some biographers have suggested that the couple's relationship was more like that between brother and sister than like husband and wife in that they never consummated their marriage."
The "in" part makes it sound as if that is the reason the biographers believe their relationship to be like brother and sister, when I'm sure it has to do with something else.
Sorry if that sounds confusing. Thesniperremix ( talk) 16:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
currently, the article's last line regarding Virginia's influence on Poe and his writing reads:
"Poe's supposed insanity during his wife's illness may also be reflected in his first-person narratives "The Tell-Tale Heart", "The Black Cat", and "The Cask of Amontillado".[34]"
This seems unnecessary and very speculative. I realize that it is sourced but that doesn't mean that it adds any value to the article. I am well studied on most things "Poe" and this line confused even me. I suggest it be removed as it really adds no value to the article (which is about Virginia) and likely only contributes to reinforcing public misunderstanding of Poe's state of mind. And even if no one agrees with me on those points, it is still a very weak statement for the concluding thought of this article. MorbidAnatomy ( talk) 22:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
It says in the first line that Mr. Poe was 27 when he married. On the Edgar Allan Poe page, it says he was 26. -- 208.126.113.45 ( talk) 00:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
There seems to be some dispute over the familial relationship of Mr. and Mrs. Poe; an editor known only by an IP address has altered that information twice now, and reverted my reversions of it. The only source offered is the family tree image on the page - an image which I created. The tree clearly shows that Poe's father was the sister of Virginia's mother. Further, the "first cousins" relationship is a well-known fact, backed up by multiple reliable sources including Kenneth Silverman's Poe biography (p. 82 in my edition), Jeffrey Meyers's biography of Poe (p. 59), and Scott Peeples's Edgar Allan Poe Revisited (p. 30). What's the dispute? -- Midnightdreary ( talk) 14:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Norwegian band Katzenjammer_(band) released a track called "Virginia Clemm" on their album Le_Pop. http://youtu.be/BMUW14QqCAc
This line needs to be balanced to represent the views of biographers like Arthur Hobson Quinn and William Bittner. Possibly: "Biographers disagree as to the nature of the couple's relationship." Or: "Some biographers have suggested that the couple's relationship was more like that between brother and sister, while others believe they were passionate lovers." KateWishing ( talk) 14:30, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
There are numerous citations given with only the name "Sova" and a number, without specifying an actual work. The Edgar Allan Poe page has a reference to Dawn B. Sova's "Edgar Allan Poe, A to Z" (google indicates the same author also has a "Critical Companion to Edgar Allan Poe"). If someone can determine which work these footnotes are actually intended to cite, it should be added to the list of references. 207.237.196.6 ( talk) 03:48, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
This statement hardly seems plausible:
The short story Ligeia, whose title character suffers a slow and lingering death, may also be inspired by Virginia.
The article states Virginia’s tuberculosis was first noted in 1842. Edgar published Ligeia in 1838. The claim should be removed. I realize it is cited, but I don’t think that justifies its inclusion. It’s speculation, at best, anyway. MorbidAnatomy ( talk) 02:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
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i remember reading somewhere that poe called her "sis" as a nickname —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ian-Callihan ( talk • contribs) 16:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC).
I can't believe people editing such major articles don't even know how to spell conventional.--
74.131.91.57 (
talk) 16:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I've been keeping an eye out for Virginia's full name. I have yet to find any source that calls her "Virginia Eliza Clemm Poe." I'm proposing this article be moved to "Virginia Clemm Poe" unless someone can find a source that gives "Eliza" as her middle name. Thanks! -- Midnightdreary 23:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm hoping I am avoiding ambiguity here, but the article currently refers to Virginia Eliza Clemm Poe as "Virginia" throughout, not by either of her last names. Her husband is referred to consistently as "Poe", except in the section which also mentions Neilson Poe. In that section, one is Edgar, the other is Neilson. I'm hoping this is a safe way to refer to them without being ambiguous or informal. Any thoughts? -- Midnightdreary ( talk) 16:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the above comment. It seems that "Poe" should refer to the subject of the article and not to the subject's husband. At the very least they should be referred to by their first names to avoid ambiguity. I was initially very confused by mentions of "Poe's" alleged affair, for example. Additionally, it might strike some as a little sexist that the subject of the article gets referred to by her first name while her husband is defined by his surname. 24.255.34.200 ( talk) 19:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm just going to go ahead and pass this. It's impeccably well-sourced. It's generally well-written. It's engaging and interesting. I see no significant problems with MoS or images (though I'm no expert in either). No problems with NPOV, edit wars, etc.
There is, of course, room for improvement. Some of the writing is sometimes a little awkward. There are a lot of short sentences. And in some ways if anything it's over-sourced: you keep tripping over footnotes. So sometimes it doesn't flow as well as it might: the over all effect is rather staccato. There are perhaps too many details. No doubt there's some over-compensation for what is, in the end, a rather short and relatively uneventful life!
I've made a bunch of copy-edits, and there are some questions hidden away in the text.
But this was a nice article to read. I do recommend you work on it further and submit it to FAC.
Congratulations! -- jbmurray ( talk| contribs) 02:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
This was such an enjoyable article to read! Thanks! I just have a few suggestions:
I hope these suggestions are helpful and I look forward to seeing the article at FAC. Let me know when the featured topic is ready, too! Awadewit ( talk) 18:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Hoffman's book is given such a silly title that I was pretty sure it was fictional. So I looked it up at the LoC.
Turns out it actually exists, but it was published in 1998.
I don't want to "fix" the year of publication: perhaps there was an earlier edition, to which somebody attached the ISBN of a later edition. -- Hoary ( talk) 16:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Though it seems strange that Virginia Clemm would permit hubby, Edgar Poe to be a close friend to Frances Sargent Osgood, but Frances was a "benefactor" to them both, and Virginia approved of their literary friendship. Frances had a popular reciting parlor in The Brooklyn Heights section of Brooklyn. It was a place where Poe could hob nob with the literary elite of his day. Frances Sargent Osgood's maiden name was Frances S. Locke, a descent of " The Locke Family of New England" that were related to famed individuals, Dr. John Locke and Rev. Jonathan Edwards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aedwardmoch ( talk • contribs) 18:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, let me explain why I made the edits I did. If you choose to ignore them, OK, but there are times when I get so fed up with the vast multitude of misconceptions and errors about Poe and his wife that get repeated over and over and over again, that I sometimes blow a gasket and feel I have to get my two cents in somehow.
First of all, you got Virginia's birthdate wrong. If you'll check Quinn's bio, he prints the church records that say she was born August 15. You really must change that, at the very least.
I changed the phrase "alleged amorous improprieties," because, while there was certainly negative gossip surrounding Poe--particularly regarding the business about Elizabeth Ellet's letters--there is no contemporary record of what, exactly, it was. English, Briggs, and Lewis Gaylord Clark, for example, accused Poe of practically everything under the sun EXCEPT adultery.
The lady Poe allegedly had a romance with in Baltimore in the early 1830s was not named Mary Devereaux. That was a mistake someone made in the early 1900s, in an effort to identify her. The woman who was the subject of the 1889 "Poe's Mary" article has since (on the testimony of her granddaughter) been identified as Mary Starr Jennings. She had no relative named "Devereaux." (The "Poe's Mary" article itself is a very dubious story that shouldn't be repeated anywhere as unquestioned fact, but that's a whole other subject.)
When discussing Poe and Virginia's marriage, I think it would be fair for you to state that we simply don't know what their sex life (or lack of) may have been, but aside from their childlessness, there is no reason to belive it was not a "normal" one, at least until she took ill. Even the claim they waited two years to consummate the marriage is questionable. As Poe biographer William Bittner commented, considering they were already living together as brother and sister, there really was no reason for Poe and Virginia to marry unless they wanted to go to bed together.
My statement that the earliest known manuscript version of the Valentine poem for Osgood is in Virginia's handwriting is simple fact. There is a digital image of the manuscript available online. Please take a look at it, and then at an image of her poem to Edgar. Identical writing. They are both even written on the same floral-embossed stationary. That's not speculation; it's the truth, and, I think, a rather interesting mystery.
In all fairness, I think you should make it clear that the claim that Virginia encouraged Poe's friendship with Fanny Osgood rests only on Osgood's testimony--given only after both the Poes were dead and not available for either confirmation or refutation. There is nothing that backs up her claim. I'd file that statement under the category of, "She WOULD say that, wouldn't she?"
In the interests of accuracy, I think it's always important to note sources. The source for the whole "Ellet got Osgood to demand that Poe return her letters" story is Sarah Helen Whitman. She gave this story thirty years after the fact, citing Anne Lynch as her source. (Lynch herself, when asked, denied knowing anything about the tale.) SHW, I have found, is a generally highly unreliable source, and as there is no corroboration for this extremely strange story (if Osgood wanted her letters back, why didn't she quietly ask Poe herself, rather than stage a public scene over it?) I think it should be retold with certain qualifiers.
Griswold, years later, claimed that Sam Osgood had threatened to sue Ellet. We have no other contemporary evidence for this. (Griswold himself is hardly Mister Reliable.) I find it hard to believe Sam would want his wife's alleged indiscretions aired in a court of law. Griswold himself doesn't state what such a lawsuit might have been about. (By the way, the Osgoods were never estranged. This is a misconception started by Thomas Mabbott, who imagined an 1845 separation based on a poem she published in Dec. 1844, chiding an unnamed "you" for preferring the company of others to herself. That's all his evidence! Sam traveled a lot because of the nature of his work, but there is nothing to indicate a rift in their marriage--certainly not at the time she knew Poe. In fact, I have a copy of a letter she wrote her husband in May 1845--right during the period she was publicly gushing over Poe--where she addresses Sam as "My darling love," and coos to him throughout in the most lovey-dovey way imaginable. Please, I beg you, put that particular bit of fiction to rest.)
The letter Poe wrote about Virginia's illness ("Each time I felt all the agonies...") was not written to John Ingram. It was written to George W. Eveleth. Ingram merely published the letter in his biography. That is another inarguable error in your article.
The notion that Virginia had "violet eyes" and a "bad complexion" comes only from that bizarre "Poe's Mary" article. (That article, as I indicated above, deserves a complete smackdown all its own, but space forbids.) You yourself go on to describe her eyes as "dark," then as "hazel."
Those stories about Virginia clasping Poe's and Mary Starr's hands together, and showing Mrs. Shew letters written by the second Mrs. Allan--you really should make it clear that these claims are uncorroborated and, (as many Poe biographers admit) extremely dubious.
The idea that Poe "attempted to woo" Osgood is another debatable point. All the evidence suggests she pursued an acquaintance with him. You really shouldn't fall into the common error among Poe biographers--namely, presenting supposition as fact.
That about wraps it up. I have my problems with you relying so heavily on Silverman's rather juvenile attempts to make all of Poe's fiction autobiographical, but I suppose that's a relatively minor point. Please consider everything I have said here, because it is all factual. Which is more than can be said for the majority of things published about Poe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoeundine ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
In the Biography (as it is today), the first sentence of Early Life seems odd to me: "Virginia Eliza Clemm was born on August 15, 1822[1] and named after an older sister who had died as an infant[2] only ten days earlier.[3]" I don't mean to stir up the previous discussion, but does this also seems to say that her mother had multiple births within an unusually short period of time. Jace1 ( talk) 19:07, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
"Some biographers have suggested that the couple's relationship was more like that between brother and sister than like husband and wife in that they never consummated their marriage."
Is there any actual proof that they did not consumate their marriage. While I'm sure they probably did not seeing as how she so ill. It seems like the article is presenting it as fact and not a theory. Note I am not an expert Thesniperremix ( talk) 13:40, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I know. I was commenting on the way it is worded.
"Some biographers have suggested that the couple's relationship was more like that between brother and sister than like husband and wife in that they never consummated their marriage."
The "in" part makes it sound as if that is the reason the biographers believe their relationship to be like brother and sister, when I'm sure it has to do with something else.
Sorry if that sounds confusing. Thesniperremix ( talk) 16:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
currently, the article's last line regarding Virginia's influence on Poe and his writing reads:
"Poe's supposed insanity during his wife's illness may also be reflected in his first-person narratives "The Tell-Tale Heart", "The Black Cat", and "The Cask of Amontillado".[34]"
This seems unnecessary and very speculative. I realize that it is sourced but that doesn't mean that it adds any value to the article. I am well studied on most things "Poe" and this line confused even me. I suggest it be removed as it really adds no value to the article (which is about Virginia) and likely only contributes to reinforcing public misunderstanding of Poe's state of mind. And even if no one agrees with me on those points, it is still a very weak statement for the concluding thought of this article. MorbidAnatomy ( talk) 22:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
It says in the first line that Mr. Poe was 27 when he married. On the Edgar Allan Poe page, it says he was 26. -- 208.126.113.45 ( talk) 00:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
There seems to be some dispute over the familial relationship of Mr. and Mrs. Poe; an editor known only by an IP address has altered that information twice now, and reverted my reversions of it. The only source offered is the family tree image on the page - an image which I created. The tree clearly shows that Poe's father was the sister of Virginia's mother. Further, the "first cousins" relationship is a well-known fact, backed up by multiple reliable sources including Kenneth Silverman's Poe biography (p. 82 in my edition), Jeffrey Meyers's biography of Poe (p. 59), and Scott Peeples's Edgar Allan Poe Revisited (p. 30). What's the dispute? -- Midnightdreary ( talk) 14:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Norwegian band Katzenjammer_(band) released a track called "Virginia Clemm" on their album Le_Pop. http://youtu.be/BMUW14QqCAc
This line needs to be balanced to represent the views of biographers like Arthur Hobson Quinn and William Bittner. Possibly: "Biographers disagree as to the nature of the couple's relationship." Or: "Some biographers have suggested that the couple's relationship was more like that between brother and sister, while others believe they were passionate lovers." KateWishing ( talk) 14:30, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
There are numerous citations given with only the name "Sova" and a number, without specifying an actual work. The Edgar Allan Poe page has a reference to Dawn B. Sova's "Edgar Allan Poe, A to Z" (google indicates the same author also has a "Critical Companion to Edgar Allan Poe"). If someone can determine which work these footnotes are actually intended to cite, it should be added to the list of references. 207.237.196.6 ( talk) 03:48, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
This statement hardly seems plausible:
The short story Ligeia, whose title character suffers a slow and lingering death, may also be inspired by Virginia.
The article states Virginia’s tuberculosis was first noted in 1842. Edgar published Ligeia in 1838. The claim should be removed. I realize it is cited, but I don’t think that justifies its inclusion. It’s speculation, at best, anyway. MorbidAnatomy ( talk) 02:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC)