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This is just nitpicking of the most insignificant kind, but the following passage felt just a bit awkward to me:
In one design, the strings were fretted with tangents, so that there were more keys than strings (several notes, for example C, C#, D, and D#, would all be played on one string).
The bracketed text is of course just an example, but I have some doubts that a note such as C# was really used at all during the lifetime of Leonardo da Vinci. Someone else might be able to confirm or dismiss my suspicions. In the meantime I'm changing it to mention only C and C#, because, at least in my mind, C and D# (and thus C and Eb) sharing the same string is ridiculously inconvenient. -- EldKatt 16:04, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I read it as meaning "C & C#, D & D#", not that all four would be using the same string....
duncanrmi ( talk) 15:29, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Isn't the Hurdy Gurdy an earlier bowed keyboard instrument? 69.204.245.4 ( talk) 14:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv3py3Ap8_Y#t=70
http://tygodnik.onet.pl/zmysly/the-da-vinci-tone-in-english/qw5s9
I thought this was note worthy for this article
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OxAO (
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06:26, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
In most articles about individual musical instruments, certain standard details regularly appear which are missing from this article: size; shape; range; number of strings; number of keys; mode of playing and/or activation of the moving parts, etc.
We aren't told, for example, whether this thing is shaped like a piano, like a violin, or like a kazoo. We aren't told whether it's the size of a breadbox or a 1958 Ford Thunderbird. We don't know whether it has a dozen strings or a hundred; whether they were in single or multiple-string courses; whether it has 8 keys or 88; and whether it has the range of a pipe organ or P.D.Q.Bach's slide music stand. How were the belts/bows/wheels turned? By foot-pedals? Slaves turning cranks? Gerbils? Was any significant music written for it? (There has, after all, been music written for theoretical instruments -- Scriabin's Prometheus, for example.)
Anyway, you get the idea. Right now the article is bare bones, and not even a complete skeleton. It needs the rest of the structure, and perhaps a little flesh to fill it out. :) 67.206.183.143 ( talk) 04:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I question the inclusion of this article in the Experimental Musical Instruments category. Just because an instrument is rare doesn't necessarily qualify it as "experimental". Examples of this instrument have been being constructed and played for almost 500 years. While it may have been "experimental" in Leonardo's day, so was the violin -- but no longer.
74.95.43.249 ( talk) 21:54, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
The article says that Hans Heyden's Geigenwerk required two players, one to turn the crank to put the rosined wheels in motion, and the other to work the keys. This is (insufficiently) referenced with a book by Emanuel Winternitz about da Vinci, not Heyden. The illustration from Praetorius’ Syntagma musicum clearly shows a foot pedal (very similar to those used to drive lathes at the time), operated by the keyboard player, to set the wheels in motion, not a crank. -- Jossi ( talk) 21:10, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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This is just nitpicking of the most insignificant kind, but the following passage felt just a bit awkward to me:
In one design, the strings were fretted with tangents, so that there were more keys than strings (several notes, for example C, C#, D, and D#, would all be played on one string).
The bracketed text is of course just an example, but I have some doubts that a note such as C# was really used at all during the lifetime of Leonardo da Vinci. Someone else might be able to confirm or dismiss my suspicions. In the meantime I'm changing it to mention only C and C#, because, at least in my mind, C and D# (and thus C and Eb) sharing the same string is ridiculously inconvenient. -- EldKatt 16:04, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I read it as meaning "C & C#, D & D#", not that all four would be using the same string....
duncanrmi ( talk) 15:29, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Isn't the Hurdy Gurdy an earlier bowed keyboard instrument? 69.204.245.4 ( talk) 14:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv3py3Ap8_Y#t=70
http://tygodnik.onet.pl/zmysly/the-da-vinci-tone-in-english/qw5s9
I thought this was note worthy for this article
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OxAO (
talk)
06:26, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
In most articles about individual musical instruments, certain standard details regularly appear which are missing from this article: size; shape; range; number of strings; number of keys; mode of playing and/or activation of the moving parts, etc.
We aren't told, for example, whether this thing is shaped like a piano, like a violin, or like a kazoo. We aren't told whether it's the size of a breadbox or a 1958 Ford Thunderbird. We don't know whether it has a dozen strings or a hundred; whether they were in single or multiple-string courses; whether it has 8 keys or 88; and whether it has the range of a pipe organ or P.D.Q.Bach's slide music stand. How were the belts/bows/wheels turned? By foot-pedals? Slaves turning cranks? Gerbils? Was any significant music written for it? (There has, after all, been music written for theoretical instruments -- Scriabin's Prometheus, for example.)
Anyway, you get the idea. Right now the article is bare bones, and not even a complete skeleton. It needs the rest of the structure, and perhaps a little flesh to fill it out. :) 67.206.183.143 ( talk) 04:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I question the inclusion of this article in the Experimental Musical Instruments category. Just because an instrument is rare doesn't necessarily qualify it as "experimental". Examples of this instrument have been being constructed and played for almost 500 years. While it may have been "experimental" in Leonardo's day, so was the violin -- but no longer.
74.95.43.249 ( talk) 21:54, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
The article says that Hans Heyden's Geigenwerk required two players, one to turn the crank to put the rosined wheels in motion, and the other to work the keys. This is (insufficiently) referenced with a book by Emanuel Winternitz about da Vinci, not Heyden. The illustration from Praetorius’ Syntagma musicum clearly shows a foot pedal (very similar to those used to drive lathes at the time), operated by the keyboard player, to set the wheels in motion, not a crank. -- Jossi ( talk) 21:10, 28 January 2023 (UTC)