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A large part of DeSimone's involvement in the Ruben Carter trial (Lafayette Grill Murders) was the interview with an alleged witness which occurred on Oct 16, 1966. The transcripts of the interview which occurred between police (including DeSimone) and Al Bello ('witness')can be found at: http://graphicwitness.com/carter/bello1066.html I found it an interesting piece, though the link came from Cal Deal's website. 131.252.253.135 17:13, 23 September 2005 (UTC)Average Joe
I don't understand this sentence: "that character is in fact a dramatised amalgam of several people some of the incidents in relation to whom have been fictionalized." "dramatised amalgam of several people", ok. But what's the meaning of this: "some of the incidents in relation to whom have been fictionalized"? I'm german, but is this correct english? It should be possible for foreign visitors to undrstand the wiki articles. If the author doesn't rephrase this, I'm gonna do that next week. Gray62 22:31, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
How about that? Gray62 00:44, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
An additional reference to an article on Rubin Carter was added "for neutrality". It was not stated what "neutrality" it was attempting to attain, but the reference didn't mention the subject of this article once. I've removed it. Uncle G 01:55:33, 2005-09-12 (UTC)
Are you kidding me? It was obvious. There is an external link to a story called 'The hurricane hoax'. This site is very strongly anti-Carter. I posted that link to 'lawbuzz' to provide a more neutral approach. Do you want to tell us the 'hoax' link is neutral? Gray62 03:04, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
It was not, and still is not, obvious. The reference made no mention of the subject of this article whatever. It has no bearing upon this article at all. Please stop putting it in, and please stop removing citations of things that are used as references for this article. Uncle G 04:26:12, 2005-09-12 (UTC)
Undisputed fact: VDS was the lead detective in the case. My link provides evidence that the federal court critizised the handling of eyewitness Bello by the detectives. Q.E.D.
And I want to know why you are constantly intervening in the work I try to do here, instead of supporting me. Gray62 04:32, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
User 'Uncle G' is posting here several links to Anti-Carter websites under the alleged intent to provide evidence for this article. Since this article is linked to the Carter case, this is directly affecting the neutral point of view. At the same time, he is prohibiting my reasonable attempt to provide facts about the controversy about the eyewitness Bello. Imho this doesn't result in a neutral point of view. Gray62 04:52, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Why wasn't the cop or detective easnt arrested for setting Robin up with his forgery lies to the court that what's wrong wothe world white cops think thru can get away with everything and in this situation shows they can 74.214.51.85 ( talk) 08:16, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
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A large part of DeSimone's involvement in the Ruben Carter trial (Lafayette Grill Murders) was the interview with an alleged witness which occurred on Oct 16, 1966. The transcripts of the interview which occurred between police (including DeSimone) and Al Bello ('witness')can be found at: http://graphicwitness.com/carter/bello1066.html I found it an interesting piece, though the link came from Cal Deal's website. 131.252.253.135 17:13, 23 September 2005 (UTC)Average Joe
I don't understand this sentence: "that character is in fact a dramatised amalgam of several people some of the incidents in relation to whom have been fictionalized." "dramatised amalgam of several people", ok. But what's the meaning of this: "some of the incidents in relation to whom have been fictionalized"? I'm german, but is this correct english? It should be possible for foreign visitors to undrstand the wiki articles. If the author doesn't rephrase this, I'm gonna do that next week. Gray62 22:31, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
How about that? Gray62 00:44, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
An additional reference to an article on Rubin Carter was added "for neutrality". It was not stated what "neutrality" it was attempting to attain, but the reference didn't mention the subject of this article once. I've removed it. Uncle G 01:55:33, 2005-09-12 (UTC)
Are you kidding me? It was obvious. There is an external link to a story called 'The hurricane hoax'. This site is very strongly anti-Carter. I posted that link to 'lawbuzz' to provide a more neutral approach. Do you want to tell us the 'hoax' link is neutral? Gray62 03:04, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
It was not, and still is not, obvious. The reference made no mention of the subject of this article whatever. It has no bearing upon this article at all. Please stop putting it in, and please stop removing citations of things that are used as references for this article. Uncle G 04:26:12, 2005-09-12 (UTC)
Undisputed fact: VDS was the lead detective in the case. My link provides evidence that the federal court critizised the handling of eyewitness Bello by the detectives. Q.E.D.
And I want to know why you are constantly intervening in the work I try to do here, instead of supporting me. Gray62 04:32, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
User 'Uncle G' is posting here several links to Anti-Carter websites under the alleged intent to provide evidence for this article. Since this article is linked to the Carter case, this is directly affecting the neutral point of view. At the same time, he is prohibiting my reasonable attempt to provide facts about the controversy about the eyewitness Bello. Imho this doesn't result in a neutral point of view. Gray62 04:52, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Why wasn't the cop or detective easnt arrested for setting Robin up with his forgery lies to the court that what's wrong wothe world white cops think thru can get away with everything and in this situation shows they can 74.214.51.85 ( talk) 08:16, 19 July 2022 (UTC)