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About the revert: It would be nice to have a longer Vienna bio on here, but I'm pretty sure quoting the one from Virt's website is a copyright violation. - Ergative 05:39, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Vienna is not an Italian city... dude. -- Миборовский U| T| C| M| E| Chugoku Banzai! 05:51, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
She has a LinkedIn page [1] that associates her real name with her stage name. I agree that Wikipedia needn't be bound by informal fansite surveys. I also think it's certainly of encyclopedic interest. Arnshea ( talk) 21:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
There is at least a consensus of readers at the Vienna Teng Forums ( http://viennateng.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1299) that she prefers not to have her real name listed. Please don't add it back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rflrob ( talk • contribs) 05:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Why can't we show her real name??? She is a public figure, and it's definitely not a secret. It's all over the web.
Zah429 18:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
WP:BLP#Non-public_figures does not apply to public figures. And such information is certainly of encyclopedic value to someone as witnessed by the List of celebrities who have changed their name. Also, Wikipedia is not a fansite and articles are not required to submit to fan veto. (The fans of Blythe, Dzhugashvili, or Schicklgruber might not want such info known either). — AjaxSmack 01:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Agreed with AjaxSmack. A musician or other performing artist who has publically released work and gives public performances is by definition a public figure. 90.9.63.33 23:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Teng recently relocated from San Francisco to New York City. Someone may want to find a verifiable source for this and add it. Dissolve 10:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I changed this to "American" rather than Chinese-American per wp:mosbio. Thanks, -- Tom 12:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
CueTheStrings passed along a nice note to me with some Wikipedia editing tips and tricks. Among the points (s)he raised was a comment about my redaction of the Amos/McLaughlan comparison from the lead of the article. CueTheStrings cautioned against pulling things out simply because I disagree with them personally.
That is good advice, but I don't think that's what's going on here.
There were a few reasons for the change as it stands.
The positioning of the Amos/McLaughlan connection was too high in the article. If someone wants to write an "Influences" section and a "Comparisons to other artists" section, this discussion might fit.
The connection needs to be justified by something that's preferably not the editor's op/ed and not just a lazy comparison. Teng has mentioned Amos as a primary influence. Great, that's a meaningful connection. The Teng-Amos connection should be voiced in her words and from her point of view.
My opinion: the fact that a bunch of journalists lazily make a link between one female singer/pianist and another is not in itself worthy of headlining an article. The McLaughlan connection is weak unless Teng has voiced it.
-- Kennethfine 23:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know what exactly she did for Cisco?
It's possible she was a tester or in a similar position, which requires the ability to code but isn't exactly a "software engineering" position. If she wasn't a programmer working, say, on extending class hierarchies or designing programs, "software engineer" may be a bit overblown.
Stanford has a prestigious CS program and it's certainly possible Teng got into software engineering straight out of school, but it would be nice if we had some confirmation. Many many well-paid programmers in the world are not "software engineers."
-- Kennethfine 00:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
She`s definitely a soprano. I changed alto into soprano.
Source: http://wholewheatradio.org/wiki/inde...ts:Vienna_Teng —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.218.220.199 ( talk) 11:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Guys? Why is there an image of this artist playing a guitar in this article? She's a pianist. I mean, yeah, she probably /can/ play guitar, but as far as performance goes, she doesn't. ST47 ( talk) 04:01, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Most unreleased covers of songs are trivial in articles about the songs themselves. (This article, of course, is two steps higher. I discusses not the song or the album but the artist.)
Imagine, for instance, what The Beatles would look like if we listed all of even the ukulele performances on youtube of all of there songs. This, however, is a sensible middle ground: commercially released versions from notable acts. Unsourced performances by drum and bugle corps and youtube clips are simply not encyclopedic. - SummerPhD ( talk) 15:40, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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About the revert: It would be nice to have a longer Vienna bio on here, but I'm pretty sure quoting the one from Virt's website is a copyright violation. - Ergative 05:39, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Vienna is not an Italian city... dude. -- Миборовский U| T| C| M| E| Chugoku Banzai! 05:51, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
She has a LinkedIn page [1] that associates her real name with her stage name. I agree that Wikipedia needn't be bound by informal fansite surveys. I also think it's certainly of encyclopedic interest. Arnshea ( talk) 21:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
There is at least a consensus of readers at the Vienna Teng Forums ( http://viennateng.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1299) that she prefers not to have her real name listed. Please don't add it back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rflrob ( talk • contribs) 05:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Why can't we show her real name??? She is a public figure, and it's definitely not a secret. It's all over the web.
Zah429 18:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
WP:BLP#Non-public_figures does not apply to public figures. And such information is certainly of encyclopedic value to someone as witnessed by the List of celebrities who have changed their name. Also, Wikipedia is not a fansite and articles are not required to submit to fan veto. (The fans of Blythe, Dzhugashvili, or Schicklgruber might not want such info known either). — AjaxSmack 01:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Agreed with AjaxSmack. A musician or other performing artist who has publically released work and gives public performances is by definition a public figure. 90.9.63.33 23:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Teng recently relocated from San Francisco to New York City. Someone may want to find a verifiable source for this and add it. Dissolve 10:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I changed this to "American" rather than Chinese-American per wp:mosbio. Thanks, -- Tom 12:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
CueTheStrings passed along a nice note to me with some Wikipedia editing tips and tricks. Among the points (s)he raised was a comment about my redaction of the Amos/McLaughlan comparison from the lead of the article. CueTheStrings cautioned against pulling things out simply because I disagree with them personally.
That is good advice, but I don't think that's what's going on here.
There were a few reasons for the change as it stands.
The positioning of the Amos/McLaughlan connection was too high in the article. If someone wants to write an "Influences" section and a "Comparisons to other artists" section, this discussion might fit.
The connection needs to be justified by something that's preferably not the editor's op/ed and not just a lazy comparison. Teng has mentioned Amos as a primary influence. Great, that's a meaningful connection. The Teng-Amos connection should be voiced in her words and from her point of view.
My opinion: the fact that a bunch of journalists lazily make a link between one female singer/pianist and another is not in itself worthy of headlining an article. The McLaughlan connection is weak unless Teng has voiced it.
-- Kennethfine 23:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know what exactly she did for Cisco?
It's possible she was a tester or in a similar position, which requires the ability to code but isn't exactly a "software engineering" position. If she wasn't a programmer working, say, on extending class hierarchies or designing programs, "software engineer" may be a bit overblown.
Stanford has a prestigious CS program and it's certainly possible Teng got into software engineering straight out of school, but it would be nice if we had some confirmation. Many many well-paid programmers in the world are not "software engineers."
-- Kennethfine 00:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
She`s definitely a soprano. I changed alto into soprano.
Source: http://wholewheatradio.org/wiki/inde...ts:Vienna_Teng —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.218.220.199 ( talk) 11:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Guys? Why is there an image of this artist playing a guitar in this article? She's a pianist. I mean, yeah, she probably /can/ play guitar, but as far as performance goes, she doesn't. ST47 ( talk) 04:01, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Most unreleased covers of songs are trivial in articles about the songs themselves. (This article, of course, is two steps higher. I discusses not the song or the album but the artist.)
Imagine, for instance, what The Beatles would look like if we listed all of even the ukulele performances on youtube of all of there songs. This, however, is a sensible middle ground: commercially released versions from notable acts. Unsourced performances by drum and bugle corps and youtube clips are simply not encyclopedic. - SummerPhD ( talk) 15:40, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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