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Interesting that certain parties do not want this location, which historically is an important part of Manchester and the heritage of the Irwell, to appear in Wikipedia.
I will have to contact the admins on Wikipedia and request that editing priviliges be the sole reserve of registered members. Parrot of Doom 23:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Parrot Of Doom. The content of this page is dicussed in depth in a number of other Wikis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.159.18.194 ( talk • contribs)
The images on the Image search section of Manchester Council's website show exactly the same location as one of the images in the 28 days later forum - therefore I have presumed that they are the same place. I say this because there are arches on the opposite bank of the river, but I don't think its feasible to presume that they could be mixed up. Parrot of Doom 11:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
This page clearly and undisputedly does not meet the criteria "It is a page created primarily to disparage its subject or a biography of a living person that is controversial in tone and unsourced, where there is no neutral version in the history to revert to". This speedy delete seems to be a campaign I have, as an outsider observed from certain members of the 28 days who seem to wish to keep what is actually a well known site, "secret". Contrart to what the anon editor states in his edit summary the Environment Agency report referenced does actually talk about the "Cathedral Steps"
Whilst this article currently, at least, verges on original research it is an article that, in my opinion has potential, especially given the authors appear to be actively working on it and researching sources. At that point, at worst it deserves a tag that warns the reader of this Pit-yacker 14:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I will be visiting Manchester Library and will find out all I can shortly. Parrot of Doom 18:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
AFAICT the image doesnt say Thomas Cook - It appears to say "THO?COOK & SONS. Where ? appears to be an "s" Pit-yacker 18:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I need to link certain sentences and paragraphs to books that I have researched, but I don't know how to do this - could someone outline the procedure for me?
I have been given permission by Manchester Library to use one or two images for this page only. Any suggestions as to which two would be best? Parrot of Doom 18:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
I once read a feature article (in the 1970s, I think) in the paper about this aspect of 'underground Manchester'. It recounted the urban myth of a perfectly preserved Georgian street, complete with shopfronts etc. The reporter stated that all he found were cobbles and a rusted gaslamp, though no description of the latter was given. The article stated how the old churchyard sloped down to the river, and that there had been a cobbled riverside lane along the banks. Perhaps these cobbles were the original surface. The construction of Victoria Street upon a series of arches over the slope no doubt explains the 'tunnels'.
By the way, the text is a little misleading, suggesting that the steps predate the Cathedral. I assume that you mean that they predate 1847, when the old Collegiate Church became the Cathedral Church of the new diocese.-- Train guard ( talk) 11:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Is this article seriously saying the steps predated Manchester Cathedral? The article on the cathedral says "Work on the current building began in 1215", so that's a biggish claim! I wouldn't have thought a flight of steps would have been needed until after the river banks were canalised, but would be interested to know if anyone can back this up? Casper Gutman ( talk • contributions) 22:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I think this article should be named "Victoria Arches". Its the name used by author Keith Warrender, and also by those news outlets which have reported on his book Underground Manchester. It certainly makes more sense to refer to the landing stages, than merely by the wooden steps which allowed access to them. Parrot of Doom 10:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Support I always thought it was a bit of an odd name for the article. Richerman ( talk) 23:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
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Interesting that certain parties do not want this location, which historically is an important part of Manchester and the heritage of the Irwell, to appear in Wikipedia.
I will have to contact the admins on Wikipedia and request that editing priviliges be the sole reserve of registered members. Parrot of Doom 23:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Parrot Of Doom. The content of this page is dicussed in depth in a number of other Wikis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.159.18.194 ( talk • contribs)
The images on the Image search section of Manchester Council's website show exactly the same location as one of the images in the 28 days later forum - therefore I have presumed that they are the same place. I say this because there are arches on the opposite bank of the river, but I don't think its feasible to presume that they could be mixed up. Parrot of Doom 11:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
This page clearly and undisputedly does not meet the criteria "It is a page created primarily to disparage its subject or a biography of a living person that is controversial in tone and unsourced, where there is no neutral version in the history to revert to". This speedy delete seems to be a campaign I have, as an outsider observed from certain members of the 28 days who seem to wish to keep what is actually a well known site, "secret". Contrart to what the anon editor states in his edit summary the Environment Agency report referenced does actually talk about the "Cathedral Steps"
Whilst this article currently, at least, verges on original research it is an article that, in my opinion has potential, especially given the authors appear to be actively working on it and researching sources. At that point, at worst it deserves a tag that warns the reader of this Pit-yacker 14:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I will be visiting Manchester Library and will find out all I can shortly. Parrot of Doom 18:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
AFAICT the image doesnt say Thomas Cook - It appears to say "THO?COOK & SONS. Where ? appears to be an "s" Pit-yacker 18:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I need to link certain sentences and paragraphs to books that I have researched, but I don't know how to do this - could someone outline the procedure for me?
I have been given permission by Manchester Library to use one or two images for this page only. Any suggestions as to which two would be best? Parrot of Doom 18:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
I once read a feature article (in the 1970s, I think) in the paper about this aspect of 'underground Manchester'. It recounted the urban myth of a perfectly preserved Georgian street, complete with shopfronts etc. The reporter stated that all he found were cobbles and a rusted gaslamp, though no description of the latter was given. The article stated how the old churchyard sloped down to the river, and that there had been a cobbled riverside lane along the banks. Perhaps these cobbles were the original surface. The construction of Victoria Street upon a series of arches over the slope no doubt explains the 'tunnels'.
By the way, the text is a little misleading, suggesting that the steps predate the Cathedral. I assume that you mean that they predate 1847, when the old Collegiate Church became the Cathedral Church of the new diocese.-- Train guard ( talk) 11:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Is this article seriously saying the steps predated Manchester Cathedral? The article on the cathedral says "Work on the current building began in 1215", so that's a biggish claim! I wouldn't have thought a flight of steps would have been needed until after the river banks were canalised, but would be interested to know if anyone can back this up? Casper Gutman ( talk • contributions) 22:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I think this article should be named "Victoria Arches". Its the name used by author Keith Warrender, and also by those news outlets which have reported on his book Underground Manchester. It certainly makes more sense to refer to the landing stages, than merely by the wooden steps which allowed access to them. Parrot of Doom 10:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Support I always thought it was a bit of an odd name for the article. Richerman ( talk) 23:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)