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This article has been renominated for deletion. The topic is not notable. The sources are unreliable. It is blatant political advertising with a point of view written by a political supporter. A link is provided to Vi Daley's own web site. It was previously voted for deletion for good reason. It is completely slanted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk • contribs) 15:30, December 27, 2007
Actually, this article has previuously been deleted twice -the second time speedily without discussion since it reappeared during Vi Daley's re-election campaign last year and was full of propoganda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk • contribs) 15:49, December 27, 2007
Are you serious? 40% of the "sources" are the Chicago Reader. Thanks for enlightening us TonyTheTiger. Now why don't you reveal your connections to Vi Daley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 14:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Here is just one example of a misleading statement. "She was elected in 1999 to replace Alderman Charles Bernardini,..." This is false. In 1999, she was elected to replace herself. In this, her first, election, she ran as an incumbent after having been previously appointed to the job by the mayor. Anyone who thinks this is insignificant knows nothing about Chicago politics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 16:33, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Here's another example of subtle yet significant slant. Nearly a full paragraph, which is probably 15-20% of the article, is devoted to discussion of the proposed big box ordinance. The suggestion is that it was the primary reason she came close to losing the election. The truth is that in Vi Daley's ward, it was a complete non-issue. There were no proposals to build any big boxes in the ward, and it is a white collar ward with few union members. Vi Daley nearly lost her job due to high levels of discontent over a host of other issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 16:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
It wasn't me that had anything to do with Vi Daley's article being deleted twice previously. Common sense tells you that low level politicians are going to attempt to use this venue for political advertising. Common sense tells you that the content is going to be suspect. The fact that 39 other Chicago aldermen are also getting away with it is weak justicification for its continued existence. It's simply not notable. Shouldn't a topic that's already been deleted for non-notability have to go through a review process before getting undeleted? You can verify that Vi Daley ran as an incumbent in 1999 on the Cook County Board of Elections web site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 19:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
It's difficult and often impossible to provide references on such extremely local politics. The major newspapers cover it in only the most cursory fashion, and I wouldn't stoop to providing bogus references like footnote number two which is merely a questionaire filled out by the alderman. Her unverified answers are used to support the assertion that she has the support of various interests groups. Again, it's misinformation. For one, she was not endorsed by the Chicago Fire Fighters Union. What do you want for a reference on that? The phone number of the union hall? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 15:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC) Having said all that, let me add this. While my concerns about notability and accuracy lead me to support deletion, I really wouldn't mind seeing the veil of secrecy lifted off this woman. Where and when was she born, and where was she raised? What is her education level? What was her last private sector paid job? What real estate investments do she and her husband own in secret trusts? Who belongs to her kitchen cabinet? What hours does she work? How much vacation does she take? What pension benefits is she set up to collect? Is she taking anti-depressents? How has she voted on issues involving her contributors? How is her real estate broker husband benefiting from her position? Why was it necessary to spend $700,000 to get re-elected, and is this possibly an all time record for a city council campaign? etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 16:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
So because you dislike that out of 14 questions, a couple could be considered loaded, you're going to be supportive of the continuation of false information and bogus references in the article. Go figure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 17:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
okokok. If you're not going to delete it then maybe when I have time, I'll try and put some stuff together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.29.100 ( talk) 18:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
You guys are completely nuts. The article sounds like eight people wrote it and some have a point of view. Why not get Vi to write it since it needs to be completely biased, one way or another... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.35.78 ( talk) 15:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Can't seem to be able to find date of birth anywhere. - The Gnome ( talk) 07:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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This article has been renominated for deletion. The topic is not notable. The sources are unreliable. It is blatant political advertising with a point of view written by a political supporter. A link is provided to Vi Daley's own web site. It was previously voted for deletion for good reason. It is completely slanted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk • contribs) 15:30, December 27, 2007
Actually, this article has previuously been deleted twice -the second time speedily without discussion since it reappeared during Vi Daley's re-election campaign last year and was full of propoganda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk • contribs) 15:49, December 27, 2007
Are you serious? 40% of the "sources" are the Chicago Reader. Thanks for enlightening us TonyTheTiger. Now why don't you reveal your connections to Vi Daley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 14:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Here is just one example of a misleading statement. "She was elected in 1999 to replace Alderman Charles Bernardini,..." This is false. In 1999, she was elected to replace herself. In this, her first, election, she ran as an incumbent after having been previously appointed to the job by the mayor. Anyone who thinks this is insignificant knows nothing about Chicago politics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 16:33, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Here's another example of subtle yet significant slant. Nearly a full paragraph, which is probably 15-20% of the article, is devoted to discussion of the proposed big box ordinance. The suggestion is that it was the primary reason she came close to losing the election. The truth is that in Vi Daley's ward, it was a complete non-issue. There were no proposals to build any big boxes in the ward, and it is a white collar ward with few union members. Vi Daley nearly lost her job due to high levels of discontent over a host of other issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 16:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
It wasn't me that had anything to do with Vi Daley's article being deleted twice previously. Common sense tells you that low level politicians are going to attempt to use this venue for political advertising. Common sense tells you that the content is going to be suspect. The fact that 39 other Chicago aldermen are also getting away with it is weak justicification for its continued existence. It's simply not notable. Shouldn't a topic that's already been deleted for non-notability have to go through a review process before getting undeleted? You can verify that Vi Daley ran as an incumbent in 1999 on the Cook County Board of Elections web site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 19:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
It's difficult and often impossible to provide references on such extremely local politics. The major newspapers cover it in only the most cursory fashion, and I wouldn't stoop to providing bogus references like footnote number two which is merely a questionaire filled out by the alderman. Her unverified answers are used to support the assertion that she has the support of various interests groups. Again, it's misinformation. For one, she was not endorsed by the Chicago Fire Fighters Union. What do you want for a reference on that? The phone number of the union hall? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 15:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC) Having said all that, let me add this. While my concerns about notability and accuracy lead me to support deletion, I really wouldn't mind seeing the veil of secrecy lifted off this woman. Where and when was she born, and where was she raised? What is her education level? What was her last private sector paid job? What real estate investments do she and her husband own in secret trusts? Who belongs to her kitchen cabinet? What hours does she work? How much vacation does she take? What pension benefits is she set up to collect? Is she taking anti-depressents? How has she voted on issues involving her contributors? How is her real estate broker husband benefiting from her position? Why was it necessary to spend $700,000 to get re-elected, and is this possibly an all time record for a city council campaign? etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 16:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
So because you dislike that out of 14 questions, a couple could be considered loaded, you're going to be supportive of the continuation of false information and bogus references in the article. Go figure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.3.8 ( talk) 17:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
okokok. If you're not going to delete it then maybe when I have time, I'll try and put some stuff together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.29.100 ( talk) 18:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
You guys are completely nuts. The article sounds like eight people wrote it and some have a point of view. Why not get Vi to write it since it needs to be completely biased, one way or another... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.35.78 ( talk) 15:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Can't seem to be able to find date of birth anywhere. - The Gnome ( talk) 07:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
"This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. (March 2010)" This policy results in an obvious bias towards retention of primarily flattering statements. The article is biased. There are minimal mentions of the voluminous criticisms of this politician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.197.176.2 ( talk) 02:00, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
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