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All these telecom mergers and subsidiaries make it very confusing to know how to organize articles. If the name is now Verizon New England, etc., then I suppose the article name should no longer be New England Telephone - but changing it would lead to a ton of redirects. On the other hand, is Verizon New England etc. enough of a separate entity to be worthy of an article? No, I imagine. The article-worthy entity is the old, independent New England Telephone. In which case the Verizon name should be secondary, e.g.:
Or something like that. Any thoughts? - DavidWBrooks 12:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
This is a comment on put on User: X570's talk page after he reverted the article:
Basically it is still subsidiary of a larger company, as it has been for over a century. As a company it deserves an infobox, and there is alot of data that can be seen at a glance in the infoboxes. The logo is the last logo used when the company was marketed to the public as NETel, and for the purposes of this article, should NOT be replaced with the generic Verizon logo. VNET&T is the official, internal name of the company. Even under AT&T prior to 1984 it was not marketed at New England Telephone & Telegraph, just New England Telephone, just the same as it is now marketed as Verizon New England. X570 22:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
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Consider this article: Sanders Associates. It's a Nashua, NH company that existed for years, had a distinct public persona, and whose name entered the local vernacular. The company is now part of BAE systems - same buildings, same customers, etc. But the Sanders article doesn't start out with BAE Systems and a BAE Systems infobox, followed by a description that it used to be Sanders Associates. Why not? Because nobody who goes to an article titled Sanders is looking for information about the current corporate form with a different name - they would go to the article *with that name*. The Sanders article should talk about Sanders - e.g., the company before it was bought - regardless of what has happened since then.
The same process should exist here. This article is about the company that was known to the public as New England Telephone, with that impossible-to-forget jingle, so it should talk about that company - not about its current corporate form that nobody even knows exists. That's why I changed it back (although I haven't changed it again): To serve readers' actual needs when the come to this article, rather than following an arbitrary inofobox style. - DavidWBrooks 17:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
New England Telephone is not Verizon New England. It is false to speak of an organization and its descendant as one when its descendant has been chewed up over twenty-four years through multiple mergers and the latest partial divestment. Information about Verizon New England belongs in the article on Verizon. Some information might also belong in an article about "Telephone service in New England". — Centrx→ talk • 04:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
The company described in this article, New England Telephone & Telegraph Company, which is now legally named Verizon New England, Inc. should retain an infobox on its current status. Should we go to other articles about Bell Operating Companies that were renamed, such as all of the Verizon and AT&T operating companies as well as Qwest Corporation and strip them of their infoboxes simply because they are no longer named what they might have been years ago? Verizon New England is indeed an active Bell Operating Company in Verizon and some of its assets were sold, but that doesn't affect its incorporation status. The legality of the matter is that it still exists, and Wikipedia has always strived to be as factually correct as possible. To say that New England Telephone & Telegraph Company doesn't exist is factually incorrect because it indeed does, only under a different name. 24.94.181.18 ( talk) 17:31, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Dear DavidWBrooks and anyone else maintaining this article,
Verizon New England (New England Telephone) has had a long history with labour unions. Should this be added into the article? What do you think?
Readnews1 ( talk) 18:26, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hello, As an employee of Verizon Communications, I am asking Wikipedia editors to consider fixing dead links on different Verizon-related Wikipedia articles. Because of my conflict of interest, I follow Wikipedia's best practices in requesting updates rather than editing directly.
For this article, can editors replace the first "Website" link in the infobox with https://www.verizon.com/local/massachusetts/ ? For this article, can editors also replace the second "Website" link in the infobox with https://www.verizon.com/local/providence-ri/
Thank you. VZEric ( talk) 23:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Done! Westminster88 ( talk) 10:50, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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All these telecom mergers and subsidiaries make it very confusing to know how to organize articles. If the name is now Verizon New England, etc., then I suppose the article name should no longer be New England Telephone - but changing it would lead to a ton of redirects. On the other hand, is Verizon New England etc. enough of a separate entity to be worthy of an article? No, I imagine. The article-worthy entity is the old, independent New England Telephone. In which case the Verizon name should be secondary, e.g.:
Or something like that. Any thoughts? - DavidWBrooks 12:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
This is a comment on put on User: X570's talk page after he reverted the article:
Basically it is still subsidiary of a larger company, as it has been for over a century. As a company it deserves an infobox, and there is alot of data that can be seen at a glance in the infoboxes. The logo is the last logo used when the company was marketed to the public as NETel, and for the purposes of this article, should NOT be replaced with the generic Verizon logo. VNET&T is the official, internal name of the company. Even under AT&T prior to 1984 it was not marketed at New England Telephone & Telegraph, just New England Telephone, just the same as it is now marketed as Verizon New England. X570 22:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
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Consider this article: Sanders Associates. It's a Nashua, NH company that existed for years, had a distinct public persona, and whose name entered the local vernacular. The company is now part of BAE systems - same buildings, same customers, etc. But the Sanders article doesn't start out with BAE Systems and a BAE Systems infobox, followed by a description that it used to be Sanders Associates. Why not? Because nobody who goes to an article titled Sanders is looking for information about the current corporate form with a different name - they would go to the article *with that name*. The Sanders article should talk about Sanders - e.g., the company before it was bought - regardless of what has happened since then.
The same process should exist here. This article is about the company that was known to the public as New England Telephone, with that impossible-to-forget jingle, so it should talk about that company - not about its current corporate form that nobody even knows exists. That's why I changed it back (although I haven't changed it again): To serve readers' actual needs when the come to this article, rather than following an arbitrary inofobox style. - DavidWBrooks 17:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
New England Telephone is not Verizon New England. It is false to speak of an organization and its descendant as one when its descendant has been chewed up over twenty-four years through multiple mergers and the latest partial divestment. Information about Verizon New England belongs in the article on Verizon. Some information might also belong in an article about "Telephone service in New England". — Centrx→ talk • 04:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
The company described in this article, New England Telephone & Telegraph Company, which is now legally named Verizon New England, Inc. should retain an infobox on its current status. Should we go to other articles about Bell Operating Companies that were renamed, such as all of the Verizon and AT&T operating companies as well as Qwest Corporation and strip them of their infoboxes simply because they are no longer named what they might have been years ago? Verizon New England is indeed an active Bell Operating Company in Verizon and some of its assets were sold, but that doesn't affect its incorporation status. The legality of the matter is that it still exists, and Wikipedia has always strived to be as factually correct as possible. To say that New England Telephone & Telegraph Company doesn't exist is factually incorrect because it indeed does, only under a different name. 24.94.181.18 ( talk) 17:31, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Dear DavidWBrooks and anyone else maintaining this article,
Verizon New England (New England Telephone) has had a long history with labour unions. Should this be added into the article? What do you think?
Readnews1 ( talk) 18:26, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hello, As an employee of Verizon Communications, I am asking Wikipedia editors to consider fixing dead links on different Verizon-related Wikipedia articles. Because of my conflict of interest, I follow Wikipedia's best practices in requesting updates rather than editing directly.
For this article, can editors replace the first "Website" link in the infobox with https://www.verizon.com/local/massachusetts/ ? For this article, can editors also replace the second "Website" link in the infobox with https://www.verizon.com/local/providence-ri/
Thank you. VZEric ( talk) 23:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Done! Westminster88 ( talk) 10:50, 17 September 2020 (UTC)