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A fact from Verein für germanisches Heidentum appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 December 2021 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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... that the
Germanic neopagan group Verein für germanisches Heidentum dismisses
völkisch religiosity by associating it with monotheism and dualism? Source: "The ethnicist German VfgH also sees a 'monotheistic-dualistic configuration' at the basis of völkisch religiosity and thus salvages modern Asatru from the association with both." (
Norse Revival, p. 127)
ALT1: ... that the Verein für germanisches Heidentum, a
Germanic neopagan group in Germany, began as a chapter of Britain's
Odinic Rite? Source: "...the Odinic Rite Deutschland (ORD, later renamed as Verein für germanisches Heidentum VfgH, Society for Germanic Paganism). The ORD started out as a chapter of the British Odinic Rite in 1994..." (
Norse Revival, p. 75)
Probably worth clarifying that blót ceremonies are sacrificial. Also, is 'reinvented' the ideal word compared to more common choices like 'reconstructed'?
Explained blót in the lead. "Reinvention" is used in contrast to "reconstruction" in the source ("Man müsse weniger auf die vergebliche Re-Konstruktion setzen, sondern vielmehr auf die ideenreiche Re-Invention der Religion", "You have to rely less on the vain reconstruction, but rather on the conceptive reinvention of religion"). I added a few words to the article body about why they prefer this approach.
Consider using the {{lang}} template for German text (such as when writing the full titles of organizations). I see it's used a couple times in the article, but not consistently.
Added a bunch, maybe missed something.
"Dualist" is a little more common a phrasing than "dualistic".
Changed
The meeting was exclusively for "inclusive" Germanic neopagans, which led to discussions about what it means to be inclusive Do we have further details on such discussions?
Added a little. It's hard to elaborate more without
WP:OR, since the source doesn't discuss the VfGH's position in particular.
I may make further comments, but these are the only clear ones at the moment.
Vaticidalprophet 10:39, 27 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the review! I'll be happy to address any other concerns you have.
Ffranc (
talk) 11:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much for your prompt replies! I've made some minor copyedits for prose quality (feel free to tweak any further) and spotchecked a few cites (checking through the cited chapters of Norse Revival) without issue. I'm happy to pass the article; it's a concise but in-depth look at the subject that doesn't need any more significant work for GA status.
Vaticidalprophet 12:32, 27 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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A fact from Verein für germanisches Heidentum appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 December 2021 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that the
Germanic neopagan group Verein für germanisches Heidentum dismisses
völkisch religiosity by associating it with monotheism and dualism? Source: "The ethnicist German VfgH also sees a 'monotheistic-dualistic configuration' at the basis of völkisch religiosity and thus salvages modern Asatru from the association with both." (
Norse Revival, p. 127)
ALT1: ... that the Verein für germanisches Heidentum, a
Germanic neopagan group in Germany, began as a chapter of Britain's
Odinic Rite? Source: "...the Odinic Rite Deutschland (ORD, later renamed as Verein für germanisches Heidentum VfgH, Society for Germanic Paganism). The ORD started out as a chapter of the British Odinic Rite in 1994..." (
Norse Revival, p. 75)
Probably worth clarifying that blót ceremonies are sacrificial. Also, is 'reinvented' the ideal word compared to more common choices like 'reconstructed'?
Explained blót in the lead. "Reinvention" is used in contrast to "reconstruction" in the source ("Man müsse weniger auf die vergebliche Re-Konstruktion setzen, sondern vielmehr auf die ideenreiche Re-Invention der Religion", "You have to rely less on the vain reconstruction, but rather on the conceptive reinvention of religion"). I added a few words to the article body about why they prefer this approach.
Consider using the {{lang}} template for German text (such as when writing the full titles of organizations). I see it's used a couple times in the article, but not consistently.
Added a bunch, maybe missed something.
"Dualist" is a little more common a phrasing than "dualistic".
Changed
The meeting was exclusively for "inclusive" Germanic neopagans, which led to discussions about what it means to be inclusive Do we have further details on such discussions?
Added a little. It's hard to elaborate more without
WP:OR, since the source doesn't discuss the VfGH's position in particular.
I may make further comments, but these are the only clear ones at the moment.
Vaticidalprophet 10:39, 27 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the review! I'll be happy to address any other concerns you have.
Ffranc (
talk) 11:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much for your prompt replies! I've made some minor copyedits for prose quality (feel free to tweak any further) and spotchecked a few cites (checking through the cited chapters of Norse Revival) without issue. I'm happy to pass the article; it's a concise but in-depth look at the subject that doesn't need any more significant work for GA status.
Vaticidalprophet 12:32, 27 June 2023 (UTC)reply