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Lack of Citations

Yesterday a freshly-created account, @ Alumcheck added a series of citations to Mr. Lowe's work, which were promptly reverted by @ EasyAsPai. I have two concerns:

  • there is no support at all for almost the entire Cases section, and the reverted edits just continued this pattern
  • the disputed text also included some publications by Mr. Lowe. I would think that a publication can be used as a citation for its own existence (but not for notability) under a liberal reading of WP:SELFSOURCE. As far as I'm concerned, @ Alumcheck can add back self-published articles and books.

With respect to the Cases section, my recommendation would be to either:

  • Option 1 delete the entire cases section
  • Option 2 delete only the cases which are not linked to another article (although I can't say Mr. Vaughn is mentioned in those articles and I'm not going to do it right now)

Almost a year ago, I made the following observation which I think remains true today: "this is an exceptionally poorly cited article, but probably not a a candidate for deletion as he meets NPROF due to professorial chair. The case citation section should probably be deleted as it's only supported by a self-published source." The events of yesterday only reinforce the lack of verifiability of the majority of this article.

If there are no concerns/comments within a reasonable period I'm likely to proceed with Option 1 -- this article has to follow the same rules as any other, and WP:RS and WP:BLP are not being honored. Oblivy ( talk) 01:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply

I've taken the step of deleting all the unsourced material, leaving the publications.and a small amount of biographical information which is available from the Oxford website. The publications are probably self-authenticating, but licensing history and history of arbitral appointments are not. Oblivy ( talk) 01:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Pinging @ Vlowe to alert them to this thread involving edits by @ Alumcheck in case they aren't aware. Oblivy ( talk) 11:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Copyright status of the image looks problematic. Alumcheck updated it as own work, but recorded it as by a portrait painter, Simon Davis. So unless Alumcheck is Davis, this should probably be removed. Tacyarg ( talk) 11:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Agreed. The image has a 7-day countdown on commons which ends around the 8th, after which it will be deleted, but no objection to removing it now as it's unlikely to be Alumcheck's IP. Oblivy ( talk) 11:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lack of Citations

Yesterday a freshly-created account, @ Alumcheck added a series of citations to Mr. Lowe's work, which were promptly reverted by @ EasyAsPai. I have two concerns:

  • there is no support at all for almost the entire Cases section, and the reverted edits just continued this pattern
  • the disputed text also included some publications by Mr. Lowe. I would think that a publication can be used as a citation for its own existence (but not for notability) under a liberal reading of WP:SELFSOURCE. As far as I'm concerned, @ Alumcheck can add back self-published articles and books.

With respect to the Cases section, my recommendation would be to either:

  • Option 1 delete the entire cases section
  • Option 2 delete only the cases which are not linked to another article (although I can't say Mr. Vaughn is mentioned in those articles and I'm not going to do it right now)

Almost a year ago, I made the following observation which I think remains true today: "this is an exceptionally poorly cited article, but probably not a a candidate for deletion as he meets NPROF due to professorial chair. The case citation section should probably be deleted as it's only supported by a self-published source." The events of yesterday only reinforce the lack of verifiability of the majority of this article.

If there are no concerns/comments within a reasonable period I'm likely to proceed with Option 1 -- this article has to follow the same rules as any other, and WP:RS and WP:BLP are not being honored. Oblivy ( talk) 01:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply

I've taken the step of deleting all the unsourced material, leaving the publications.and a small amount of biographical information which is available from the Oxford website. The publications are probably self-authenticating, but licensing history and history of arbitral appointments are not. Oblivy ( talk) 01:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Pinging @ Vlowe to alert them to this thread involving edits by @ Alumcheck in case they aren't aware. Oblivy ( talk) 11:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Copyright status of the image looks problematic. Alumcheck updated it as own work, but recorded it as by a portrait painter, Simon Davis. So unless Alumcheck is Davis, this should probably be removed. Tacyarg ( talk) 11:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Agreed. The image has a 7-day countdown on commons which ends around the 8th, after which it will be deleted, but no objection to removing it now as it's unlikely to be Alumcheck's IP. Oblivy ( talk) 11:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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