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for some reason Varina Anne Banks Davis is redirected to Varina Howell but they ain't the same person! Varina Anne Banks Davis is the daughter of Varina Howell and Jefferson Davis. anonymous edit by "62.214.251.240" as of 21:12, 29 December 2006
Take a look at that wedding photograph and tell me she's not part black. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.42.147.152 ( talk) 16:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
STOP pretending this is a real photo. Varina Davis was at the White House. We have a historical record of photos. We know how she wore her hair and what she looked like. These are not photos of Varina who was married to President Davis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.161.138.234 ( talk) 13:48, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I've fixed the links in my last post above. I cropped the images so that the faces are in alignment. By alternating between them you can clearly see the difference between the pictures. DancesWithGrues ( talk) 01:02, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Opening summary says she 'ignored her husband's affairs'. Does this mean his business affairs or romantic affairs? 109.157.233.148 ( talk) 13:48, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
I take offense at the non-announced revert of January 27th 2011, reverting more than 20 versions, deleting both the articles structure, linkage to other articles, and, seemingly, months of efforts (my 3 small edits are only a part of that). I recognize that most of the deleted content was edited into the article by an unknown IP, but you could just delete those sentences which you think are POV instead of undoing others work. Surgery instead of bombing.
(This restores an earlier entry. The article had become politicised; the edits restore balance and depth.)
The article is about a political woman who - afaik - was sympathetic to both the Union and the Confederation. If the reverter please elaborates which part of the complete reverted versions was unbalanced?
If there is no reply, I will revert the revert and figure out how to establish a NPOV version - the entrance statements made in April 2010 by Rjensen is an example which I will remove then.
Enyavar (
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18:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
There's a quote from Varina Howell Davis that I always liked, but I'm missing the source:
"Mr. Davis was the first Democrat I ever met who was a gentleman."
This reflected the common perception among Whigs (North and South) that Democrats were radical and slightly unsavory, perhaps irreligious, like Thomas Jefferson. I'll try to relocate the source. 36hourblock ( talk) 22:28, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
The article has been marked since 2009 for its lack of sources and citations. Parkwells ( talk) 16:18, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
The content suffers in tone, sounding like a magazine essay rather than an encyclopedia article. Please use academic sources and cites. Parkwells ( talk) 16:18, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
The photo that is in the Wikipedia commons is doctored or photoshopped. This has been complained about once before, it should not have been going for so long and should not happen again. This is the actual photo: http://civilwardailygazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/davis.jpg In sociology they call this type of phenomenon social desirability bias. It's sad that this has to happen to a woman, blue or gray. 72.170.224.43 ( talk) 09:08, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
I added the ACTUAL photo...if you click it and read the text, the original writer (not I) sums up this debacle succinctly. 72.170.224.43 ( talk) 09:36, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
PBS uses the actual photo...not my opinion. Stop being ethnocentric. 67.45.96.88 ( talk) 00:45, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
This section includes a supposed quotation from a source, of which half at least is within square breackets, that is, it's been added by someone. Since it is not longer a quotation, unless anyone objects in the next week or so, I will re-do it, deleting the added material. If that material does indeed exist in the cited source, then either have a lengthier quotation, or summarize the materials and label it as such, and provide page references for the summary. Theonemacduff ( talk) 20:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Davis greeted the war with dread, supporting the Union but not slavery.
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for some reason Varina Anne Banks Davis is redirected to Varina Howell but they ain't the same person! Varina Anne Banks Davis is the daughter of Varina Howell and Jefferson Davis. anonymous edit by "62.214.251.240" as of 21:12, 29 December 2006
Take a look at that wedding photograph and tell me she's not part black. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.42.147.152 ( talk) 16:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
STOP pretending this is a real photo. Varina Davis was at the White House. We have a historical record of photos. We know how she wore her hair and what she looked like. These are not photos of Varina who was married to President Davis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.161.138.234 ( talk) 13:48, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I've fixed the links in my last post above. I cropped the images so that the faces are in alignment. By alternating between them you can clearly see the difference between the pictures. DancesWithGrues ( talk) 01:02, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Opening summary says she 'ignored her husband's affairs'. Does this mean his business affairs or romantic affairs? 109.157.233.148 ( talk) 13:48, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
I take offense at the non-announced revert of January 27th 2011, reverting more than 20 versions, deleting both the articles structure, linkage to other articles, and, seemingly, months of efforts (my 3 small edits are only a part of that). I recognize that most of the deleted content was edited into the article by an unknown IP, but you could just delete those sentences which you think are POV instead of undoing others work. Surgery instead of bombing.
(This restores an earlier entry. The article had become politicised; the edits restore balance and depth.)
The article is about a political woman who - afaik - was sympathetic to both the Union and the Confederation. If the reverter please elaborates which part of the complete reverted versions was unbalanced?
If there is no reply, I will revert the revert and figure out how to establish a NPOV version - the entrance statements made in April 2010 by Rjensen is an example which I will remove then.
Enyavar (
talk)
18:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
There's a quote from Varina Howell Davis that I always liked, but I'm missing the source:
"Mr. Davis was the first Democrat I ever met who was a gentleman."
This reflected the common perception among Whigs (North and South) that Democrats were radical and slightly unsavory, perhaps irreligious, like Thomas Jefferson. I'll try to relocate the source. 36hourblock ( talk) 22:28, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
The article has been marked since 2009 for its lack of sources and citations. Parkwells ( talk) 16:18, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
The content suffers in tone, sounding like a magazine essay rather than an encyclopedia article. Please use academic sources and cites. Parkwells ( talk) 16:18, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
The photo that is in the Wikipedia commons is doctored or photoshopped. This has been complained about once before, it should not have been going for so long and should not happen again. This is the actual photo: http://civilwardailygazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/davis.jpg In sociology they call this type of phenomenon social desirability bias. It's sad that this has to happen to a woman, blue or gray. 72.170.224.43 ( talk) 09:08, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
I added the ACTUAL photo...if you click it and read the text, the original writer (not I) sums up this debacle succinctly. 72.170.224.43 ( talk) 09:36, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
PBS uses the actual photo...not my opinion. Stop being ethnocentric. 67.45.96.88 ( talk) 00:45, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
This section includes a supposed quotation from a source, of which half at least is within square breackets, that is, it's been added by someone. Since it is not longer a quotation, unless anyone objects in the next week or so, I will re-do it, deleting the added material. If that material does indeed exist in the cited source, then either have a lengthier quotation, or summarize the materials and label it as such, and provide page references for the summary. Theonemacduff ( talk) 20:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Davis greeted the war with dread, supporting the Union but not slavery.