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" are derived from Old Norse væringi, originally a compound of vár 'pledge' or 'faith', and gengi 'companion', thus meaning 'sworn companion', 'confederate'"
This is also discussioned. In old russian language there are many words, which are sound very near (veriazhiti, varezhka) with common sense "spoil, enemy" or "to prevent". The word "væringi" was described in sagas only in 11th century.
There is good description of variag question in russian wiki.
92.255.220.3 ( talk) 18:20, 26 March 2017 (UTC)Yaromir
It was the Rurik Dynasty of Varangian descent that ruled, not the "Varangians",
Sviatopolk I of Kiev's mother was a greek nun, and his father was Vladimir the Great of varangian extract. Starting from Sviatopolk I of Kiev, the purity of "varangian" blood was already diluted, so saying "varangians" ruled Kievan Rus' is much less accurate than saying "ruled by Rurik's descendants", which the article does state in the entry, rendering the earlier mention that "varangians ruled Kievan Rus'" unnecessary and invalid. Saying that Ruriks ruled Kievan Rus' also leads to lesser confusion with new readers, who aren't familiar well with the Kievan history yet, as they might not know right away that Rurik dynasty were of varangian descent and that is what is meant behind the phrase "varangians ruled Kievan Rus". Another point why it's best not to say the latter phrase, is that there were ordinary folk of varangian descent who diffused with other local Slavic people, so the use of plural "varangians" is best to be avoided. Vizakenjack ( talk) 04:56, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Few significant traces of Varangian influence can be discovered in Russian law, political institutions, social organizations, religious beliefs, language, or literature. This is why V. Ya. Petrukhin thinks different according to Gustav von Ewers. The latter argued that Russian Varyag could not be translated as a Varangian. Varyags, including Scandinavian Varangians, were armed merchants of different ethnic origin, including Varangians, but the majority of them, especially in Kiev, were Slavs and other Khazar subordinates. This is why their rulers had their own rota system, i. e. a specific heritage line, known only to Khazars and Hungarians and never applied by Scandinavians. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatima065 ( talk • contribs) 15:24, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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" are derived from Old Norse væringi, originally a compound of vár 'pledge' or 'faith', and gengi 'companion', thus meaning 'sworn companion', 'confederate'"
This is also discussioned. In old russian language there are many words, which are sound very near (veriazhiti, varezhka) with common sense "spoil, enemy" or "to prevent". The word "væringi" was described in sagas only in 11th century.
There is good description of variag question in russian wiki.
92.255.220.3 ( talk) 18:20, 26 March 2017 (UTC)Yaromir
It was the Rurik Dynasty of Varangian descent that ruled, not the "Varangians",
Sviatopolk I of Kiev's mother was a greek nun, and his father was Vladimir the Great of varangian extract. Starting from Sviatopolk I of Kiev, the purity of "varangian" blood was already diluted, so saying "varangians" ruled Kievan Rus' is much less accurate than saying "ruled by Rurik's descendants", which the article does state in the entry, rendering the earlier mention that "varangians ruled Kievan Rus'" unnecessary and invalid. Saying that Ruriks ruled Kievan Rus' also leads to lesser confusion with new readers, who aren't familiar well with the Kievan history yet, as they might not know right away that Rurik dynasty were of varangian descent and that is what is meant behind the phrase "varangians ruled Kievan Rus". Another point why it's best not to say the latter phrase, is that there were ordinary folk of varangian descent who diffused with other local Slavic people, so the use of plural "varangians" is best to be avoided. Vizakenjack ( talk) 04:56, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Few significant traces of Varangian influence can be discovered in Russian law, political institutions, social organizations, religious beliefs, language, or literature. This is why V. Ya. Petrukhin thinks different according to Gustav von Ewers. The latter argued that Russian Varyag could not be translated as a Varangian. Varyags, including Scandinavian Varangians, were armed merchants of different ethnic origin, including Varangians, but the majority of them, especially in Kiev, were Slavs and other Khazar subordinates. This is why their rulers had their own rota system, i. e. a specific heritage line, known only to Khazars and Hungarians and never applied by Scandinavians. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatima065 ( talk • contribs) 15:24, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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