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There's more info in this article about what VMware server can't do, as opposed to what it actually does.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.44.23 ( talk) 03:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
I did loose data with VMWare. It is strange. In a wordprocessor there is mostly an undo option. So if deleting a word by mistake it can be corrected. In an operating system there is a trashbin. So if, by mistake, a file is deleted it can be recovered. But for VMWare a client, which is in fact a complete system, moving the mouse a half inche too much to the left, from a button which is needed every day it is enough to loose all your work. Without a warning and without a possibility to recover. And VMware thinks this is normal behaviour. The solution can be multiple and very easy to program.
I felt a warning is needed for VMWare users to prevent data loss. -- Bernard2 ( talk) 15:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I removed the "risk of dataloss" section, as it wrongly suggested a product fault. I sympathize with Bernard2, however, the product did what you told it to. It reverted to a snapshot, which tells vmware to restore the state of the machine as of that snapshot. To me, this is one of the best features. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.40.192.20 ( talk) 18:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunatley there's no place for original research on Wikipedia. Kindly ensure that any edits about this topic are fully referenced as per WP:V. Socrates2008 ( Talk) 11:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Some complains about this subject found on internet : http://lifehacker.com/software/early-adopter-download-of-the-day/vmware-beta-20-adds-vista-gutsy-gibbon-support-322361.php
Quote : "All I want is a confirmation box that asks "Do you really want to revert to a snapshot from six months ago and discard everything since then, ..."
http://communities.vmware.com/thread/130151
Quote : "I got it all back up and running but made the mistake of booting the snapshot of the fileserver, which was taken in November of 2007, effectively leaving me without data for the time between then and now."
Quote : "If the user chooses VMware Player > Troubleshoot > Revert to Reimage Snapshot, a warning message appears. It cautions that all changes to the virtual machine will be lost and urges the user to take this action only if advised to do so by the ACE administrator."
http://www.vmware.com/beta/fusion/releasenotes_fusion.html
Quote : "Note: Whatever state was saved in the last suspend is lost."
So even VMWare itself is aware that data can be lost and warn about that. -- Bernard2 ( talk) 12:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
The essens for a user is that he wants to be able to continue with his work. The rest are details. There are different solutions for this :
So virtualisation seems the best solution and if proper implemented. And this is what VMware server does. But for the user virtualisation is just a detail, continue with his work is the main issue. And this is what I am talking about. If we should talk about details and main issues, virtualisation is nothing more then a detail to archive this goal. And ofcourse in this page about VMware server even details of how the virtualisation is done should be mentioned. Otherwise this article has no value. But losing all your data and system is not a detail or a missing feature. It is even not a security bug. For a security bug a knowledge person is needed with bad intentions. What I mention is that it is sufficient that a user moves his mouse a half inch to much to the left and lose all his changes. That mayor. If that is possible then virtualisation, at least with VMware server is a very bad solution to protect data and system. It was never so easy to lose your complete system. Thats not a missing feature or a security bug. It is mayor. And it should be mentioned on WP because WP should be objective. -- Bernard2 ( talk) 15:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
" Network Time Protocol (NTP) servers should not run under VMware." Microsoft Domain controllers are NTP servers, and to the best of my knowledge, fully supported by Microsoft under VMware. Socrates2008 ( Talk) 12:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
“ | Windows domain controller machines that are part of an Active Directory domain are automatically configured to act as time servers | ” |
Windows Time Service Socrates2008 ( Talk) 06:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
1. PDC's do not exist in the post NT days. It is all about FSMO roles now.
2. The drift is significant enough to affect Kerberos. http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2006/08/msg00385.html shows 20 minutes per hour. Whippen ( talk) 10:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
3. Setting the guest to sync with the host is not limited to a particular configuration of Windows, as you alluded to by including PDC. Whippen ( talk) 10:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Do you disagree with PDC's, or with the inclusion of it in this article? I don't even think it needs to be mentioned at all in this artcle. Whippen ( talk) 12:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Having read over this article and looked at the sources cited and also the VMWare site, I cannot find anywhere but this page that mentions a problem with VMWare Server on Windows x64 hosts. The link cited is a general reference to the fact that unsigned drivers are frowned upon in x64, but does not mention anything about whether this affects VMWare Server. VMWare's extensive... alright, virtually nonexistent technical documentation certainly makes no mention of such a thing. Is there a source for such a claim, other that Original Research? 71.163.26.43 ( talk) 11:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC) Bob
It was recently released and there are a large number of major changes. There seems to be a native 64 bit version for Linux, and support Vista and Server 2008 as both a guest and host OS, both 32 and 64 bit versions. All administration looks like it is done via a web interface now. I am not positive about all of this and other changes, but this article needs alot of work done on it to bring it up to the current version of VMWare Server, and to conform a little better with Wikipedia standards it seems. I'll be doing some more work with 2.0 and reading more VMWare documents about it. I'll try to fix up this article as best I can but I am not experienced with Wikipedia and I don't exactly have alot of free time, any help with this article would be greatly appreicated. Gimpy530 ( talk) 03:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
By the Way, the drivers are signed! See the following image I scraped from my system showing they are digitally signed by Microsoft:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vmware_server_signed_driver.png
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There's more info in this article about what VMware server can't do, as opposed to what it actually does.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.44.23 ( talk) 03:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
I did loose data with VMWare. It is strange. In a wordprocessor there is mostly an undo option. So if deleting a word by mistake it can be corrected. In an operating system there is a trashbin. So if, by mistake, a file is deleted it can be recovered. But for VMWare a client, which is in fact a complete system, moving the mouse a half inche too much to the left, from a button which is needed every day it is enough to loose all your work. Without a warning and without a possibility to recover. And VMware thinks this is normal behaviour. The solution can be multiple and very easy to program.
I felt a warning is needed for VMWare users to prevent data loss. -- Bernard2 ( talk) 15:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I removed the "risk of dataloss" section, as it wrongly suggested a product fault. I sympathize with Bernard2, however, the product did what you told it to. It reverted to a snapshot, which tells vmware to restore the state of the machine as of that snapshot. To me, this is one of the best features. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.40.192.20 ( talk) 18:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunatley there's no place for original research on Wikipedia. Kindly ensure that any edits about this topic are fully referenced as per WP:V. Socrates2008 ( Talk) 11:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Some complains about this subject found on internet : http://lifehacker.com/software/early-adopter-download-of-the-day/vmware-beta-20-adds-vista-gutsy-gibbon-support-322361.php
Quote : "All I want is a confirmation box that asks "Do you really want to revert to a snapshot from six months ago and discard everything since then, ..."
http://communities.vmware.com/thread/130151
Quote : "I got it all back up and running but made the mistake of booting the snapshot of the fileserver, which was taken in November of 2007, effectively leaving me without data for the time between then and now."
Quote : "If the user chooses VMware Player > Troubleshoot > Revert to Reimage Snapshot, a warning message appears. It cautions that all changes to the virtual machine will be lost and urges the user to take this action only if advised to do so by the ACE administrator."
http://www.vmware.com/beta/fusion/releasenotes_fusion.html
Quote : "Note: Whatever state was saved in the last suspend is lost."
So even VMWare itself is aware that data can be lost and warn about that. -- Bernard2 ( talk) 12:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
The essens for a user is that he wants to be able to continue with his work. The rest are details. There are different solutions for this :
So virtualisation seems the best solution and if proper implemented. And this is what VMware server does. But for the user virtualisation is just a detail, continue with his work is the main issue. And this is what I am talking about. If we should talk about details and main issues, virtualisation is nothing more then a detail to archive this goal. And ofcourse in this page about VMware server even details of how the virtualisation is done should be mentioned. Otherwise this article has no value. But losing all your data and system is not a detail or a missing feature. It is even not a security bug. For a security bug a knowledge person is needed with bad intentions. What I mention is that it is sufficient that a user moves his mouse a half inch to much to the left and lose all his changes. That mayor. If that is possible then virtualisation, at least with VMware server is a very bad solution to protect data and system. It was never so easy to lose your complete system. Thats not a missing feature or a security bug. It is mayor. And it should be mentioned on WP because WP should be objective. -- Bernard2 ( talk) 15:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
" Network Time Protocol (NTP) servers should not run under VMware." Microsoft Domain controllers are NTP servers, and to the best of my knowledge, fully supported by Microsoft under VMware. Socrates2008 ( Talk) 12:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
“ | Windows domain controller machines that are part of an Active Directory domain are automatically configured to act as time servers | ” |
Windows Time Service Socrates2008 ( Talk) 06:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
1. PDC's do not exist in the post NT days. It is all about FSMO roles now.
2. The drift is significant enough to affect Kerberos. http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2006/08/msg00385.html shows 20 minutes per hour. Whippen ( talk) 10:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
3. Setting the guest to sync with the host is not limited to a particular configuration of Windows, as you alluded to by including PDC. Whippen ( talk) 10:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Do you disagree with PDC's, or with the inclusion of it in this article? I don't even think it needs to be mentioned at all in this artcle. Whippen ( talk) 12:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Having read over this article and looked at the sources cited and also the VMWare site, I cannot find anywhere but this page that mentions a problem with VMWare Server on Windows x64 hosts. The link cited is a general reference to the fact that unsigned drivers are frowned upon in x64, but does not mention anything about whether this affects VMWare Server. VMWare's extensive... alright, virtually nonexistent technical documentation certainly makes no mention of such a thing. Is there a source for such a claim, other that Original Research? 71.163.26.43 ( talk) 11:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC) Bob
It was recently released and there are a large number of major changes. There seems to be a native 64 bit version for Linux, and support Vista and Server 2008 as both a guest and host OS, both 32 and 64 bit versions. All administration looks like it is done via a web interface now. I am not positive about all of this and other changes, but this article needs alot of work done on it to bring it up to the current version of VMWare Server, and to conform a little better with Wikipedia standards it seems. I'll be doing some more work with 2.0 and reading more VMWare documents about it. I'll try to fix up this article as best I can but I am not experienced with Wikipedia and I don't exactly have alot of free time, any help with this article would be greatly appreicated. Gimpy530 ( talk) 03:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
By the Way, the drivers are signed! See the following image I scraped from my system showing they are digitally signed by Microsoft:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vmware_server_signed_driver.png
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