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V T RAJSHEKAR,EDITOR OF “DALIT VOICE ”(A Voice of Persecuted Nationalities denied human Rights) is a Journalist, Writer (Author of 100 books) Philosopher and most important Human right fighter of Untouchables (Officially called SC/ST people by constitution of Indian State ). He is one of the most vocal human rights leader. He is outstanding Spokesperson of the Black Untouchables of India(Dalits) and other persecuted nationalities .His Famous book “DALITS- THE BLACK UNTOUCHABLES OF INDIA” Published by Clarity Press, Atlanta ,USA created history and exposed cruel nature of caste system and sufferings of Untouchables .
His fight against tyranny and oppression is well known and ruling establishment several times arrested and draconian laws applied to torture him. His writings and speeches inspired many Untouchables and give them intellectual courage to fight against Caste based oppression unleashed by Brahmanical Social Order (BSO) of Hindus. His knowledge about Indian social system and religion is immeasurable .He has made deep study of Suffering, Persecution and Humiliation of Untouchables (Dalits /SC/ST People) in the BSO controlled Indian society. He is one of the most hated and leave behind out personality of BSO controlled Manuwadi (Manu was a ancient law giver of Hindus who codified dreaded caste laws in ascending order of reverence and descending degree of contempt.)Indian Media. (Both Print &Electronic). Several attempts has been made to silence him and finally treacherous manuwadi Indian Media disregarded him in spite of his achievements in the field of human rights as acknowledged by UN human right commission, His son Salil Shetty is Secretary General of Amnesty International. He never aspired for personal wealth, name and fame. He is still persecuted for his fight against injustice and cruel system of Caste System. Those who believes in justice, truth and human dignity will conduct deep study of “Writing and Speeches of V T RAJSHEKAR ’ a living marvel.. He can reach out to web site: www.dalit voice.org , E-Mail: vtr@ndf.vsnl.net.in, dalit voice@rediffmail.com
Ph: 091-080-23366771
Why would a book by Elst be an adequate source for this statement? As you know, this writer is himself a controversial figure and many editors, including myself, have argued that he doesn't count as an academic source. But whether he is an academic or not is not relevant to this particular point. As you know, big claims need big evidence, and what is needed here is a *news* source, rather than an academic book. There is no reason to think that Elst would be privy to any inside information that the rest of us do not have access to.
As I read about Rajshekar's political positions I can easily understand that a mainstream publication like the Indian Express would have eventually found his views to be too way out for them. But that is not the same as proving that he was dismissed as opposed to, for instance, reaching an agreement with the newspaper that he would resign. Perhaps a search in the news archives for the dates around the time of his departure might yield something to indicate the circumstances under which he left. For example, did he write a departing article or did the newspaper include a statement about his departure? What did the other major papers say? Itsmejudith 09:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
V.T Rajshekar was dismissed from the Indian Express for "writing articles to other papers" which was considered against conduct rules. But the point is this is just an excuse to get rid of him as he became a thorn in the flesh of the Brahminical colleagues in the office. This I have verified from his colleagues in the Bangalore (India) office of the Indian Express. tahir123
I recommend making a publications section, with seperate subsections for Books, and Pamphlets, and splitting all the pubs up that way. (If anyone knows which are which). Crockspot 15:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I have added a POV tag as this article shows systemic bias towards anti-anti-semitism. This chap is Indian, and so far as one can tell from the little information given (especially the book list) mainly concerned with Indian issues, but the article doesn't reflect that. Hoylake 14:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Please see this new version. NB that I still don't regard it as ideal, as it refers to many statements by Rajshekar that are difficult to check out, e.g. old broadcasts. And it still does not fully explain his arguments in his own terms before the critical stuff on anti-Semitism. Also, the list of books and pamphlets is too long. Perhaps we should restrict the list to those that have an ISBN or have been cited by his critics.
V. T. Rajshekar, in full Vontibettu Thimmappa Rajshekar, also known as V. T. Rajshekar Shetty, (born 1932) is an Indian journalist who is the founder and editor of Dalit Voice [1] [2]., which has been described as "India’s most widely circulated Dalit journal". [3] He was formerly a journalist on the Indian Express, one of India's leading English language daily papers, where he worked for 25 years. [3]
He is also the author of a great number of pamphlets and books, mainly published by his own organisation.
References
Rajshekar is associated with the wing of the Dalit movement that has been called an “Afro-Dalit project” because it links the idea of freedom for Dalits conceived of as an indigenous people to the wing of Black liberation that defines Black people as people of African origin. This has been called “epidermal determinism”. [1] Thus Rajshekar makes claims about Dalits being “the original inhabitants of India” and stresses their physical resemblance to Africans. [2] Nevertheless Rajshekar also points out Dalits are not easily distinguishable from other Indians by their skin colour. [3]. He is the founder of the " Dalit Voice" publication, which disseminates information about the "Dalit Voice Movement" [4], a fringe wing of the broader Dalit Movement [5].
Rajshekar’s book ‘’Caste: a nation within the nation’’ declares the Indian castes as nations within the “nation” of India. The book recommends the strengthening of each caste as opposed to the eradication of the caste system. Rajshekhar further demands that the Dalits be deemed superior to all other castes and build a segregated Dalitist state in India. [6]. He has expressed similar views in interviews. [7].
Rajshekar’s position was described as anti-Semitic in an authoritative survey of contemporary anti-Semitism. [5]. He has claimed that the Jews and the Brahmins of India have the same ethnic origin. citation needed He alleges that Jews are "oppressing the Muslims" today and the "Brahmins are persecuting the original inhabitants of India". citation needed He has stated that the hoax book Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a real Jewish conspiracy [8] and that Indian Jews were "join(ing) hands (with Hindus) to crush Muslims, Blacks and India's Dalits". [9].
In broadcasts, Rajshekar called Brahmins "The Jews of India" on the grounds that a "Jew is one who is a born Jew. There is no conversion to the Jewish religion". According to him, since "a Brahmin is one who is a born Brahmin", they are "as bad as the Jews". He went on to allege that Jews and Brahmins had joined hands "in a big way" in the USA, England and Europe [9].
Dalit Voice has published articles about "Zionist conspiracies" regarding Hitler and the Third Reich [10] [11].
An article in Dalit Voice alleged that “The First World War, the Second World War, the establishment of Communism, the rise of Hitler, were also systematically planned and executed by Zionists.” With his sex scandal, Bill Clinton was the “victim of a Zionist conspiracy”, for the Zionists, who “control the entire American politics, economy and the media as well”, are “angry that Clinton refused to finish the ‘demon’ of Islam and render all-out support to Israel” [12]Dalit Voice has also voiced support for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's denial of the holocaust. [13].
References
In 1986 Rajshekar’s passport was confiscated because of ““ anti-Hinduism writings outside of India.” The same year, he was arrested in Bangalore under India’s Terrorism and Anti-Disruptive Activities Act. Rajshekar told Human Rights Watch that this arrest was for an editorial he had written in Dalit Voice, that another writer who republished the editorial was also arrested, and that he was eventually released with an apology. [1].
(will add more) Hkelkar 00:33, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't know about the books (they are many), but in Dalit Voice, there seems to be many anti-semitic statments, search the site for Jew(s) and Holocaust.
-- RF 12:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Please let us try to keep this article as neutral as possible, given that the subject is a very controversial writer. His viewpoints should be briefly explained here, although I think a lot of the detail should be in the Dalit Voice article instead. Adding him to all sorts of categories does not help the article towards neutrality. It is not necessary if we have summarised the viewpoints carefully in the article. Itsmejudith 15:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I completely understand the desire not to let incorrect statements stand, but this way of dealing with the problem reads awkwardly. I'm going to ask for advice on how best to handle it. Itsmejudith 20:31, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Everything in the article seems sourced, and I was considering removing the tag. However, the tag was originally placed to indicate that the article focussed too heavily on antisemitism which is presumably a small fraction of his views and not those he is notable for in India. (Presumably anti-Brahminism is more important.) Given that, I'm leaving it on for now, but adding Template:Globalize which I think is what is actually needed. Relata refero ( talk) 17:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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V T RAJSHEKAR,EDITOR OF “DALIT VOICE ”(A Voice of Persecuted Nationalities denied human Rights) is a Journalist, Writer (Author of 100 books) Philosopher and most important Human right fighter of Untouchables (Officially called SC/ST people by constitution of Indian State ). He is one of the most vocal human rights leader. He is outstanding Spokesperson of the Black Untouchables of India(Dalits) and other persecuted nationalities .His Famous book “DALITS- THE BLACK UNTOUCHABLES OF INDIA” Published by Clarity Press, Atlanta ,USA created history and exposed cruel nature of caste system and sufferings of Untouchables .
His fight against tyranny and oppression is well known and ruling establishment several times arrested and draconian laws applied to torture him. His writings and speeches inspired many Untouchables and give them intellectual courage to fight against Caste based oppression unleashed by Brahmanical Social Order (BSO) of Hindus. His knowledge about Indian social system and religion is immeasurable .He has made deep study of Suffering, Persecution and Humiliation of Untouchables (Dalits /SC/ST People) in the BSO controlled Indian society. He is one of the most hated and leave behind out personality of BSO controlled Manuwadi (Manu was a ancient law giver of Hindus who codified dreaded caste laws in ascending order of reverence and descending degree of contempt.)Indian Media. (Both Print &Electronic). Several attempts has been made to silence him and finally treacherous manuwadi Indian Media disregarded him in spite of his achievements in the field of human rights as acknowledged by UN human right commission, His son Salil Shetty is Secretary General of Amnesty International. He never aspired for personal wealth, name and fame. He is still persecuted for his fight against injustice and cruel system of Caste System. Those who believes in justice, truth and human dignity will conduct deep study of “Writing and Speeches of V T RAJSHEKAR ’ a living marvel.. He can reach out to web site: www.dalit voice.org , E-Mail: vtr@ndf.vsnl.net.in, dalit voice@rediffmail.com
Ph: 091-080-23366771
Why would a book by Elst be an adequate source for this statement? As you know, this writer is himself a controversial figure and many editors, including myself, have argued that he doesn't count as an academic source. But whether he is an academic or not is not relevant to this particular point. As you know, big claims need big evidence, and what is needed here is a *news* source, rather than an academic book. There is no reason to think that Elst would be privy to any inside information that the rest of us do not have access to.
As I read about Rajshekar's political positions I can easily understand that a mainstream publication like the Indian Express would have eventually found his views to be too way out for them. But that is not the same as proving that he was dismissed as opposed to, for instance, reaching an agreement with the newspaper that he would resign. Perhaps a search in the news archives for the dates around the time of his departure might yield something to indicate the circumstances under which he left. For example, did he write a departing article or did the newspaper include a statement about his departure? What did the other major papers say? Itsmejudith 09:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
V.T Rajshekar was dismissed from the Indian Express for "writing articles to other papers" which was considered against conduct rules. But the point is this is just an excuse to get rid of him as he became a thorn in the flesh of the Brahminical colleagues in the office. This I have verified from his colleagues in the Bangalore (India) office of the Indian Express. tahir123
I recommend making a publications section, with seperate subsections for Books, and Pamphlets, and splitting all the pubs up that way. (If anyone knows which are which). Crockspot 15:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I have added a POV tag as this article shows systemic bias towards anti-anti-semitism. This chap is Indian, and so far as one can tell from the little information given (especially the book list) mainly concerned with Indian issues, but the article doesn't reflect that. Hoylake 14:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Please see this new version. NB that I still don't regard it as ideal, as it refers to many statements by Rajshekar that are difficult to check out, e.g. old broadcasts. And it still does not fully explain his arguments in his own terms before the critical stuff on anti-Semitism. Also, the list of books and pamphlets is too long. Perhaps we should restrict the list to those that have an ISBN or have been cited by his critics.
V. T. Rajshekar, in full Vontibettu Thimmappa Rajshekar, also known as V. T. Rajshekar Shetty, (born 1932) is an Indian journalist who is the founder and editor of Dalit Voice [1] [2]., which has been described as "India’s most widely circulated Dalit journal". [3] He was formerly a journalist on the Indian Express, one of India's leading English language daily papers, where he worked for 25 years. [3]
He is also the author of a great number of pamphlets and books, mainly published by his own organisation.
References
Rajshekar is associated with the wing of the Dalit movement that has been called an “Afro-Dalit project” because it links the idea of freedom for Dalits conceived of as an indigenous people to the wing of Black liberation that defines Black people as people of African origin. This has been called “epidermal determinism”. [1] Thus Rajshekar makes claims about Dalits being “the original inhabitants of India” and stresses their physical resemblance to Africans. [2] Nevertheless Rajshekar also points out Dalits are not easily distinguishable from other Indians by their skin colour. [3]. He is the founder of the " Dalit Voice" publication, which disseminates information about the "Dalit Voice Movement" [4], a fringe wing of the broader Dalit Movement [5].
Rajshekar’s book ‘’Caste: a nation within the nation’’ declares the Indian castes as nations within the “nation” of India. The book recommends the strengthening of each caste as opposed to the eradication of the caste system. Rajshekhar further demands that the Dalits be deemed superior to all other castes and build a segregated Dalitist state in India. [6]. He has expressed similar views in interviews. [7].
Rajshekar’s position was described as anti-Semitic in an authoritative survey of contemporary anti-Semitism. [5]. He has claimed that the Jews and the Brahmins of India have the same ethnic origin. citation needed He alleges that Jews are "oppressing the Muslims" today and the "Brahmins are persecuting the original inhabitants of India". citation needed He has stated that the hoax book Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a real Jewish conspiracy [8] and that Indian Jews were "join(ing) hands (with Hindus) to crush Muslims, Blacks and India's Dalits". [9].
In broadcasts, Rajshekar called Brahmins "The Jews of India" on the grounds that a "Jew is one who is a born Jew. There is no conversion to the Jewish religion". According to him, since "a Brahmin is one who is a born Brahmin", they are "as bad as the Jews". He went on to allege that Jews and Brahmins had joined hands "in a big way" in the USA, England and Europe [9].
Dalit Voice has published articles about "Zionist conspiracies" regarding Hitler and the Third Reich [10] [11].
An article in Dalit Voice alleged that “The First World War, the Second World War, the establishment of Communism, the rise of Hitler, were also systematically planned and executed by Zionists.” With his sex scandal, Bill Clinton was the “victim of a Zionist conspiracy”, for the Zionists, who “control the entire American politics, economy and the media as well”, are “angry that Clinton refused to finish the ‘demon’ of Islam and render all-out support to Israel” [12]Dalit Voice has also voiced support for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's denial of the holocaust. [13].
References
In 1986 Rajshekar’s passport was confiscated because of ““ anti-Hinduism writings outside of India.” The same year, he was arrested in Bangalore under India’s Terrorism and Anti-Disruptive Activities Act. Rajshekar told Human Rights Watch that this arrest was for an editorial he had written in Dalit Voice, that another writer who republished the editorial was also arrested, and that he was eventually released with an apology. [1].
(will add more) Hkelkar 00:33, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't know about the books (they are many), but in Dalit Voice, there seems to be many anti-semitic statments, search the site for Jew(s) and Holocaust.
-- RF 12:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Please let us try to keep this article as neutral as possible, given that the subject is a very controversial writer. His viewpoints should be briefly explained here, although I think a lot of the detail should be in the Dalit Voice article instead. Adding him to all sorts of categories does not help the article towards neutrality. It is not necessary if we have summarised the viewpoints carefully in the article. Itsmejudith 15:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I completely understand the desire not to let incorrect statements stand, but this way of dealing with the problem reads awkwardly. I'm going to ask for advice on how best to handle it. Itsmejudith 20:31, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Everything in the article seems sourced, and I was considering removing the tag. However, the tag was originally placed to indicate that the article focussed too heavily on antisemitism which is presumably a small fraction of his views and not those he is notable for in India. (Presumably anti-Brahminism is more important.) Given that, I'm leaving it on for now, but adding Template:Globalize which I think is what is actually needed. Relata refero ( talk) 17:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)