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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk · contribs) 13:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 13:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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The article states that this series is called The Great Seljuks: Guardians of Justice in English. Is that just a convenience translation or does it have some sort of 'official' status? If the latter, then shouldn't this article be moved to the English name (obviously with a redirect from the current name), given that this is the English-language Wikipedia? Compare with how eg. Immortals is under its English name (not under Yaşamayanlar); same with Three Monkeys (not Üç Maymun); ditto Memed, My Hawk (not İnce Memed), etc. And yes, I'm aware that there are also many that are listed under their Turkish names, but I think they (those that have 'official' English names) could/should equally be moved. Any thoughts? (Tagging the article creator @ Limorina: for comments.) Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 14:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
@ DoubleGrazing: Further to what Limorina said, the series is aired under the name Uyanış: Büyük Selçuklu in the UK. As I said below, the same applies for using the Turkish name with Diriliş: Ertuğrul, Kuruluş: Osman and Payitaht: Abdülhamid, as they are most commonly referred to with those names. As someone who has occasionally watched UBS with English subtitles, and is familiar with lots of people that regularly do, I had never heard of that English name before I saw it on this article. IronManCap ( talk) 11:12, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
The result was: rejected by
BlueMoonset (
talk)
04:25, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Issues remain, nominator has retired, and editor who had been looking after nomination is no longer doing so; closing per latest review
Improved to Good Article status by Limorina ( talk). Self-nominated at 08:25, 27 March 2021 (UTC). Review comments to Chidgk1 please as Limorina has now retired from Wikipedia according to their user page
OK guys as @ Limorina:'s user page says they have retired (feel free to take it back if you wish Limorina - otherwise I hope you enjoy your retirement) as discussed on my talk page I hereby take over the role of editor responding to reviewers comments. I will respond to the above - hopefully soon - and is anyone willing to be the reviewer? Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:15, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Kingsif: Thanks for useful suggestion - I hereby switch the nomination to 5X expanded Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:28, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Kingsif: I don't see any problem with ALT5 - it is not really giving away the plot so I don't think it is a spoiler. I have not watched any of it yet but the mention of the assassins makes me more interested. Are you taking on the role of reviewer? If not whoever is the reviewer - are you happy with ALT5? Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:49, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
As I am representing the author I cannot be a reviewer - thanks for all your helpful edits and comments - would anyone like to officially be the reviewer? Chidgk1 ( talk) 07:17, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
General eligibility:
reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions. While it may be
free from major grammatical errors, the prose falls short of what I expect from GAs. For example,
Kesik says that The Great Seljuks...which contains many historical inaccuracies, is not a documentary but a historical TV series meaning that it can include many fictionalised featuresreads clunkily.
Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
QPQ: - Original nom can claim the QPQ newbie exemption
Overall:
Not sure if this is what
Chidgk1 meant by
would anyone like to officially be the reviewer?
Rotideypoc41352 (
talk ·
contribs)
12:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Rotideypoc41352 but sorry I am giving this up due to ill health. Chidgk1 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:32, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jack Frost ( talk) 10:25, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
– The creator of these articles confirms (see earlier section) that the English-language title has at least some official or accepted standing. Wikipedia article naming convention WP:UE states that English names should be used on the English-language wiki. It seems unlikely that most users of the English-language wiki would search for this subject using its original Turkish name. (PS: A redir exists at The Great Seljuks: Guardians of Justice pointing to the Turkish name; I am effectively proposing that the redir operate in the opposite direction instead.) -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 09:58, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk · contribs) 13:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 13:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not) |
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Overall: |
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The article states that this series is called The Great Seljuks: Guardians of Justice in English. Is that just a convenience translation or does it have some sort of 'official' status? If the latter, then shouldn't this article be moved to the English name (obviously with a redirect from the current name), given that this is the English-language Wikipedia? Compare with how eg. Immortals is under its English name (not under Yaşamayanlar); same with Three Monkeys (not Üç Maymun); ditto Memed, My Hawk (not İnce Memed), etc. And yes, I'm aware that there are also many that are listed under their Turkish names, but I think they (those that have 'official' English names) could/should equally be moved. Any thoughts? (Tagging the article creator @ Limorina: for comments.) Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 14:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
@ DoubleGrazing: Further to what Limorina said, the series is aired under the name Uyanış: Büyük Selçuklu in the UK. As I said below, the same applies for using the Turkish name with Diriliş: Ertuğrul, Kuruluş: Osman and Payitaht: Abdülhamid, as they are most commonly referred to with those names. As someone who has occasionally watched UBS with English subtitles, and is familiar with lots of people that regularly do, I had never heard of that English name before I saw it on this article. IronManCap ( talk) 11:12, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
The result was: rejected by
BlueMoonset (
talk)
04:25, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Issues remain, nominator has retired, and editor who had been looking after nomination is no longer doing so; closing per latest review
Improved to Good Article status by Limorina ( talk). Self-nominated at 08:25, 27 March 2021 (UTC). Review comments to Chidgk1 please as Limorina has now retired from Wikipedia according to their user page
OK guys as @ Limorina:'s user page says they have retired (feel free to take it back if you wish Limorina - otherwise I hope you enjoy your retirement) as discussed on my talk page I hereby take over the role of editor responding to reviewers comments. I will respond to the above - hopefully soon - and is anyone willing to be the reviewer? Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:15, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Kingsif: Thanks for useful suggestion - I hereby switch the nomination to 5X expanded Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:28, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Kingsif: I don't see any problem with ALT5 - it is not really giving away the plot so I don't think it is a spoiler. I have not watched any of it yet but the mention of the assassins makes me more interested. Are you taking on the role of reviewer? If not whoever is the reviewer - are you happy with ALT5? Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:49, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
As I am representing the author I cannot be a reviewer - thanks for all your helpful edits and comments - would anyone like to officially be the reviewer? Chidgk1 ( talk) 07:17, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
General eligibility:
reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions. While it may be
free from major grammatical errors, the prose falls short of what I expect from GAs. For example,
Kesik says that The Great Seljuks...which contains many historical inaccuracies, is not a documentary but a historical TV series meaning that it can include many fictionalised featuresreads clunkily.
Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
QPQ: - Original nom can claim the QPQ newbie exemption
Overall:
Not sure if this is what
Chidgk1 meant by
would anyone like to officially be the reviewer?
Rotideypoc41352 (
talk ·
contribs)
12:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Rotideypoc41352 but sorry I am giving this up due to ill health. Chidgk1 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:32, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jack Frost ( talk) 10:25, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
– The creator of these articles confirms (see earlier section) that the English-language title has at least some official or accepted standing. Wikipedia article naming convention WP:UE states that English names should be used on the English-language wiki. It seems unlikely that most users of the English-language wiki would search for this subject using its original Turkish name. (PS: A redir exists at The Great Seljuks: Guardians of Justice pointing to the Turkish name; I am effectively proposing that the redir operate in the opposite direction instead.) -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 09:58, 28 March 2021 (UTC)