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Intellectual capital of American Protestantism and of western New York

While Utica has been thought since the 20th century as merely a subsidiary of Syracuse, in the 19th century Utica was the intellectual and economic capital of western New York State. In pre-canal times no city west of Schenectady had as good a location, on the Mohawk. It and Rome were the westernmost Mohawk ports, used by all those travelling west by land on the old Genesee Road (since the 20th century, New York State Route 5) to what then was mostly wilderness. It had rail service before Syracuse did. It had Hamilton College, the third college in New York State. (The first two were Columbia and Union.) It was arguably the intellectual capital of American Protestantism in the early 19th century, and George Washington Gale its intellectual president. From Oneida County came Charles Grandison Finney, a disciple of Gale, who created a great wave of revivalists, sweeping over all the land west of the Appalachians promoting their cause, the elimination of slavery, God's mandate, and to a lesser extent temperance. Utica was the point of contact between New York's Burned-over district — the term is Finney's — and the rest of the world. The Oneida Institute and later the Oneida Community received national attention. The former was America's "abolitionist college"; the latter gave us "free love".

When Beriah Green called a meeting to organize the New York Anti-Slavery Society, he held it in Utica (where it was met with mob anti-abolitionist violence that forced it to adjourn). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deisenbe ( talkcontribs)

Then see WP:V MB 02:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Let me elaborate on MB's cryptic comment. On Wikipedia, you need to cite your sources. I think this would be a valuable addition if it was supported by properly cited sources, and maybe copyedited a little.- Apocheir ( talk) 21:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I really think the article would be better with this in it

Intellectual capital of American Protestantism and of western New York

While Utica has been thought since the 20th century as merely a subsidiary of Syracuse, in the 19th century Utica was the intellectual and economic capital of western New York State. In pre-canal times no city west of Schenectady had as good a location, on the Mohawk. It and Rome were the westernmost Mohawk ports, used by all those travelling west by land on the old Genesee Road (since the 20th century, New York State Route 5) to what then was mostly wilderness. It had rail service before Syracuse did. It had Hamilton College, the third college in New York State. (The first two were Columbia and Union.) It was arguably the intellectual capital of American Protestantism in the early 19th century, and George Washington Gale its intellectual president. From Oneida County came Charles Grandison Finney, a disciple of Gale, who created a great wave of revivalists, sweeping over all the land west of the Appalachians promoting their cause, the elimination of slavery, God's mandate, and to a lesser extent temperance. Utica was the point of contact between New York's Burned-over district — the term is Finney's — and the rest of the world. The Oneida Institute and later the Oneida Community received national attention. The former was America's "abolitionist college"; the latter gave us "free love".

When Beriah Green called a meeting to organize the New York Anti-Slavery Society, he held it in Utica (where it was met with mob anti-abolitionist violence that forced it to adjourn). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deisenbe ( talkcontribs)

Then see WP:V MB 02:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Let me elaborate on MB's cryptic comment. On Wikipedia, you need to cite your sources. I think this would be a valuable addition if it was supported by properly cited sources, and maybe copyedited a little.- Apocheir ( talk) 21:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

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